DZ Demographics

[LeeroyJenkins 2]

I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

[piisfish 135]

Foreigners

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[nolhtairt 0]

LeeroyJenkins

I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

[DJL 232]

Facebook lists me as a moderate based upon my activity but I'd say the issues I care most about put me squarely in the left. Social Democrat, Fiscal Conservative, used to be a party-line Republican until they started peddling bullshit about 15 years ago.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Phil1111 911]

nolhtairt

***I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

Er... American patriots who want to create a dynamic, educated, economy where the rule of law applies equally. Where a healthy workforce, a functioning infrastructure, a fair tax regime, all operate to overcome a xenophobic fascist. Who temporary drove the state into a swamp. One where the people all came together to pull together on the same rope. To pull the state from the swamp.

Leaving the driver and his navigators. Forever buried in the swamp. Which was then named "The trump swamp"

[DanG 1]

Me too.

(Not that Me Too).

BTW, self-reporting political stance is likely to get you more "moderate" "centrist" or "independent" votes than is realistic. RushMC and Ron both consider themselves independent or centrist. Everyone else thinks they are far right wing.

- Dan G

[yoink 321]

I hate polls like this. Really hate them...

In some circumstances I'm pretty liberal, in others quite conservative.

I think the application of grossly simplified labels to complex humans is one of the contributing reasons that we have such a fucked up system at the moment.

You're WITH US or AGAINST US. No grey areas!!!


So where's my Boobies option? Don't you know how to create a proper poll?

[jcd11235 0]

I can't vote in your poll. I'm fiercely independent, in that I determine my own position on issues based on data and facts. However, my independently deliberated position is typically quite liberal. That's not due to party affiliation; it's due to reality having a strong liberal bias.

Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

[gowlerk 1,914]

nolhtairt

***I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

Foreigners? Is this an American site? I'm a Canadian liberal who appreciates the USA despite it's problems. Demographically I'm a white male hetro 60 yo.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[billvon 2,400]

>Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

And, of course, a small minority that support Trump and the KKK.

[rifleman 61]

LeeroyJenkins

I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

Can't answer. No option for Socialist which is not the same as Liberal (although certain people on here happily conflate the two).

Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation

[nolhtairt 0]

billvon

>Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

And, of course, a small minority that support Trump and the KKK.

I support Trump, but I can't stand the KKK, Whitesboro Baptist pukes and the like.

[DJL 232]

yoink

I hate polls like this. Really hate them...

In some circumstances I'm pretty liberal, in others quite conservative.

I think the application of grossly simplified labels to complex humans is one of the contributing reasons that we have such a fucked up system at the moment.

You're WITH US or AGAINST US. No grey areas!!!


So where's my Boobies option? Don't you know how to create a proper poll?

The biggest issue is it makes it seem like politics only occur along a linear slide when the truth is that there are many dimensions to it and how you view one thing may have zero to do or zero influence on your stance on another.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[TriGirl 268]

I voted "Independent," and I mean that in the literal sense. I consider each issue on its merits, fairness, and what I understand of its compliance with the Constitution. Sometimes I have no opinion because I can't see benefits or hindrance of an issue.

See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!

[mr2mk1g 10]

gowlerk

******I'm curious to know the breakdown of people that visit the speakers corner.

Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

Foreigners? Is this an American site? I'm a Canadian liberal who appreciates the USA despite it's problems. Demographically I'm a white male hetro 60 yo.

It's run by a South African, so assume the poll options are supposed to represent a leaning towards DNC, DA or EFF?

[RonD1120 58]

nolhtairt

***>Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

And, of course, a small minority that support Trump and the KKK.

I support Trump, but I can't stand the KKK, Whitesboro Baptist pukes and the like.

I agree with you. It seems that those west coast liberal Americans always make those generalized assumptions. No amount of declared error on their part matters. IMO, that forms us against them mentality.

BTW, it is Westboro Baptist Church and is the reason the Patriot Guard Riders was formed and organized.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,255]

RonD1120

I agree with you. It seems that those west coast liberal Americans always make those generalized assumptions.

I can’t even with the irony right here.

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No amount of declared error on their part matters. IMO, that forms us against them mentality.

Here’s the thing, his was an rhetorical response to Nolhtairt’s anti-liberal generalisation. It wasn’t a suggestion that all or most Trump supporters like the KKK. That was neither explicit nor implicit in the statement, even without the tongue in cheek.

But just look at how you jumped on it to tar everyone from his half of the country with the same brush, and so further your divisive agenda, and work another step forward to the broken nation you so desire.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Phil1111 911]

jakee

***I agree with you. It seems that those west coast liberal Americans always make those generalized assumptions.

I can’t even with the irony right here.

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No amount of declared error on their part matters. IMO, that forms us against them mentality.

Here’s the thing, his was an rhetorical response to Nolhtairt’s anti-liberal generalisation. It wasn’t a suggestion that all or most Trump supporters like the KKK. That was neither explicit nor implicit in the statement, even without the tongue in cheek.

But just look at how you jumped on it to tar everyone from his half of the country with the same brush, and so further your divisive agenda, and work another step forward to the broken nation you so desire.

Everyone generalizes. I do it sometimes to foster debate(...and stir the pot...). I quote the Christian Science Monitor from time to time. Because its mainstream opinions run contrary to the Evangelical Christian hypocrisy of trump support. The authorship of those editorials, of course, being the only thing US mainstream Christian.

The rest of Christianity looks upon the polarization of US politics and its religious co-existence. It wonders if salvation is possible?

Certainly the Pope has condemned it on several occasions.
https://www.gq.com/story/pope-francis-donald-trump
Catholic leaders condemn Trump remarks about Haiti, Africa
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/01/12/catholic-leaders-condemn-trump-remarks-about-haiti-africa

Above from the Jesuit periodical. It contrasts with the Falwell/Robertson, the Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity movement of trash talking, liberal bashing US mainstream republican "leaders". They are not leaders of course. But because trump takes his populist ques from the aforementioned sources.It now defines it.

Republicans used to take their ques from the likes of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. But now republicans have turned into the Burger King party. Use the likes of Breitbart to pen a derogatory slogan for a person or idea. Get Hannity, Fox and Friends to repeat it, often. Then trump will adopt it and it becomes the new law of republican ideology.

An noninclusive, hateful, non-christian party. That labels anyone who has different conservative ideas, as the enemy. The press who reports on the lies contained in this agenda as the enemy. It gathers up the rest of America and puts them in the same basket. The basket of deplorables, of the enemy.

[RonD1120 58]

jakee

But just look at how you jumped on it to tar everyone from his half of the country with the same brush, and so further your divisive agenda, and work another step forward to the broken nation you so desire.

I sense a virtual signal of micro-aggression here. I am going to call my pastor for consolation. Then I am going to spend a long time in my safe place. That is the room where I keep my black rifles and ammo.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,400]

>It seems that those west coast liberal Americans always make those generalized assumptions.

You are becoming a parody of your own views.

[RonD1120 58]

I refer you to my post #19.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[LeeroyJenkins 2]

I feel like people are trying to make this complicated. If you believe in conservative values and liberal values that makes you an independent. If you believe one more than the other that makes you and independent that leans left or right. If you believe the vast majority of values one side you are on the side.

View percent breakdown: Conservative/Liberal
10/90
25/75
50/50
75/25
90/10

[gowlerk 1,914]

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I feel like people are trying to make this complicated.

Because it is complicated. People don't like to be pigeon holed. I self identify as liberal, but I have some views that more liberal people would disagree with. And even some that conservatives can agree with. I did not answer the poll because of that.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Phil1111 911]

RonD1120

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But just look at how you jumped on it to tar everyone from his half of the country with the same brush, and so further your divisive agenda, and work another step forward to the broken nation you so desire.

I sense a virtual signal of micro-aggression here. I am going to call my pastor for consolation. Then I am going to spend a long time in my safe place. That is the room where I keep my black rifles and ammo.

Hey thaaaats too funny! When I get together with my gun friends and the black rifles come out to play. We go to the range and set up the dueling trees at 200 yards.

After a couple 00 rounds this always comes to mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwqHarJnQP8

Because a peaceful easy feeling arises as they never let me down. See we have allot in common.

[billvon 2,400]

>Mostly foreigners and American liberals who look down at America.

So far we have an even balance overall, with more moderates within the liberal group than within the conservative group. Which seems to be expressed in threads here.