Russiagate

[billvon 2,400]

So McGahn is leaving, and per Trump it's all good - he served well and is now moving on after doing a great job.

Trump: "White House Counsel Don McGahn will be leaving his position in the fall, shortly after the confirmation (hopefully) of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court. I have worked with Don for a long time and truly appreciate his service! . . .Been here now it'll be almost two years and a lot of affection for Don. He's done an excellent job."

But wait, what's this today?

Trump: "The Rigged Russia Witch Hunt did not come into play, even a little bit, with respect to my decision on Don McGahn!"

So McGahn was fired after testifying to Mueller, and Trump fired him over it.

You have to wonder what Trump found out about McGahn's testimony this morning.

[ryoder 1,384]

Remember that interview Trump gave with Lester Holt?
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/pres-trump-s-extended-exclusive-interview-with-lester-holt-at-the-white-house-941854787582
Yep, totally fake.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/ne5x3d/trump-lester-holt-james-comey-nbc

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

ryoder

Remember that interview Trump gave with Lester Holt?
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/pres-trump-s-extended-exclusive-interview-with-lester-holt-at-the-white-house-941854787582
Yep, totally fake.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/ne5x3d/trump-lester-holt-james-comey-nbc

Soooo...

Well over a year since it was first broadcast, and now it's an issue?

And how in the world does someone 'fudge' an interview like this? I understand 'selective editing' can be a issue, but there's no indication of that.

And when was Lester Holt 'caught'?

But, of course, the Trumpettes will now repeat that the interview was fake, Trump never admitted that he fired Comey over the Russia investigation and that NBC was actually caught doing something other than telling the truth.
Trump definitely knows how to work the fools. Damned good con man.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Erroll 49]

Phil1111

Like F. W. de Klerk, the last white leader of South Africa. trump stands up to a demographic which assaults their values.

Not that it is in anyway important to this thread, but the only thing F.W. de Klerk has in common with Trump is that that they are both white.

PS. You need to work on on your sentence structure. All those full stops make for very difficult reading.

[rushmc 18]

That Trump knew about the meeting.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/08/30/trump-cnns-trump-tower-story-source-doesnt-exist-credibility-is-now-gone/

But others did...

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/30/email-correspondence-between-clinton-associate-fusion-russians-trump-tower-meeting/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

billvon

So McGahn is leaving, and per Trump it's all good - he served well and is now moving on after doing a great job.

Trump: "White House Counsel Don McGahn will be leaving his position in the fall, shortly after the confirmation (hopefully) of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court. I have worked with Don for a long time and truly appreciate his service! . . .Been here now it'll be almost two years and a lot of affection for Don. He's done an excellent job."

But wait, what's this today?

Trump: "The Rigged Russia Witch Hunt did not come into play, even a little bit, with respect to my decision on Don McGahn!"

So McGahn was fired after testifying to Mueller, and Trump fired him over it.

You have to wonder what Trump found out about McGahn's testimony this morning.

You watch too much CNN

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 911]

Erroll

*** Like F. W. de Klerk, the last white leader of South Africa. trump stands up to a demographic which assaults their values.

Not that it is in anyway important to this thread, but the only thing F.W. de Klerk has in common with Trump is that that they are both white.

PS. You need to work on on your sentence structure. All those full stops make for very difficult reading.

Thanks for the critique. Poor structure arises when I'm listing to CNN on one channel, CNBC on another and wasting time here. Yes that was for Marc.

I am a little unfamiliar with F.W. de Klerk's actual participation in sustaining the apartheid efforts. Especially as he was the last president. Just being lazy to throw his name out, but my point was trump loves to play the racial card.

[jakee 1,254]

rushmc

That Trump knew about the meeting...
...
But others did...

Nothing in the list you disputed had anything to do with the Trump Tower meeting.

Which of those facts do you disagree with, and why?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,400]

Some poll numbers on Trump and Mueller:

(ABC/WaPo Aug 26-29)

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president?Approve 36% / Disapprove 60%

Since Trump took office, do you think the amount of corruption in Washington has increased, decreased or stayed about the same? Increased 45 Decreased 13 Stayed the same 39

Do you support or oppose the investigation of Trump and his associates by special counsel Robert Mueller? Support 63 Oppose 29

Mueller prosecuted Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman, who was found guilty of tax and bank fraud by a jury last week. Do you think the case against Manafort was justified or unjustified? Justified 67 Unjustified 17

Would you support or oppose Trump giving Manafort a pardon? Support 18 Oppose 66

Trump has been critical of Attorney General Jeff Sessions for allowing the Mueller investigation to proceed. Sessions has said he's following the law. Whose side do you take on this, Trump's or Sessions'? Trump 23 Sessions 62

Cohen said that Trump directed him to try to influence the 2016 election by arranging to pay off two women who said they had affairs with Trump. If he did direct Cohen to make these payments, do you think Trump committed a crime, or not? Yes 61 no 31

Based on what you know, do you think Congress should or should not begin impeachment proceedings that could lead to Trump being removed from office? Should 49 Should not 46

[kallend 1,623]

Another flipper:

www.vox.com/2018/8/31/17805310/sam-patten-mueller-plea-manafort

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 1,623]

rushmc

. . . .breitbart . . . .

Do you enjoy having zero credibility?

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 2,400]

So it's time to update the list of indictments that have come from this investigation "that nothing will come of." We are now at 32 indictments - Cohen, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, Zwann, Flynn, Patten, Pinedo, Netyksho, Antonov, Badin, Yermakov, Lukashev, Morgachev, Kozachek, Yershov, Malyshev, Osadchuk, Potemkin, Kovalev, Prigozhin, Bystrov, Burchik, Krylova, Bogacheva, Polozov, Bovda, Ogly, Podkopaev, Vasilchenko, Kaverzina and Venkov.

It is also worth noting that Patten, like most of Trump's associates, got in trouble for working with Russian agents and then lying about it.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

So it's time to update the list of indictments that have come from this investigation "that nothing will come of." We are now at 32 indictments - Cohen, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, Zwann, Flynn, Patten, Pinedo, Netyksho, Antonov, Badin, Yermakov, Lukashev, Morgachev, Kozachek, Yershov, Malyshev, Osadchuk, Potemkin, Kovalev, Prigozhin, Bystrov, Burchik, Krylova, Bogacheva, Polozov, Bovda, Ogly, Podkopaev, Vasilchenko, Kaverzina and Venkov.

It is also worth noting that Patten, like most of Trump's associates, got in trouble for working with Russian agents and then lying about it.

And none of those you link have anything to do with Russian collusion!

Sucks to be a desperate Lefty

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,400]

>And none of those you link have anything to do with Russian collusion!

Per prosecutors, Patten bought tickets to Trump's inauguration on behalf of the Russians, using a Cypriot bank account to launder the money. He then lied to investigators about his work with the Russians.

Collusion with Russians just before Trump's inauguration - hard proof, in black and white. And a Trump insider just confessed to that crime. He also confessed to funneling foreign money illegally into the Trump inaugural fund.

So looks like some of your favorite sound bites just bit the dust (pun intended) -

There was no collusion! Sorry, Patten colluded with Russians and lied about it.
It had nothing to do with the Russians! Nope, that doesn't work either.
It was way before the election! Nope.
absolutely nothing is going to become of the Mueller investigation! 32 indictments, 6 guilty pleas, 1 guilty verdict. And counting.

Looks like you'll need some new sound bites.

Have a good weekend!

[rushmc 18]

Everything you post there and still no Trump Russia collusion. Not even a smidgen of evidence.

you got your talking points down perfect but then the way CNN and the rest of them repeat their BS daily it's not too hard for people to remember what they need to say.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

kallend

***

. . . .breitbart . . . .

Do you enjoy having zero credibility?

and one more time you cannot refute the Articles points. Classic kallend tail tucking and running

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,254]

rushmc

and one more time you cannot refute the Articles points.

What was the point of the article? Basically, it says the widower of a dead woman who had worked for Bill Clinton 15 years ago, had been in contact with Russian lobbyists on behalf of the private firm he now works for.

So what? Seriously, what is the implication here?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,400]

>Everything you post there and still no Trump Russia collusion.

1: There was NO COLLUSION!
2: There was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and the Russians!
3: There was NO COLLUSION between Trump himself and the Russians!

Eagerly awaiting your next backpedal.

4: There was NO COLLUSION that Trump knew of at the time between his campaign and the Russians!

5: There was NO COLLUSION between Trump and the Russians in the period Jun 11 - Nov 1 2016!

[ryoder 1,384]

"The name's Bond. Jessica Bond."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404746-manaforts-daughter-files-paperwork-to-change-last-name

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 2,400]

Now this is just awesome.

Russian spy Maria Buttina, currently sitting in a US jail cell awaiting trial on conspiracy and acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government, tried to broker a massive deal for Russian jet fuel to be sold in the US, one that would have netted her $1 million. This is above and beyond any Russian money she laundered through the NRA for Trump's campaign.

Who came up with this idea? David Keene, president of the NRA.

Who did most of the work? Paul Erickson, board member with the American Conservative Union. Who is very much missing now, by the way.

This is like an episode of Scandal. But one where everyone is incompetent.

[ryoder 1,384]

Good gawd, what a hilarious bunch of amateurs: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/us/politics/maria-butina-russian-spy.html

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Erroll 49]

Phil1111

I am a little unfamiliar with F.W. de Klerk's actual participation in sustaining the apartheid efforts.

That much is obvious. Perhaps the fact that he shared the Nobel Peace prize with Nelson Mandela might give you a clue.

Quote

Just being lazy ....

Equally obvious.

[Phil1111 911]

Erroll

***
I am a little unfamiliar with F.W. de Klerk's actual participation in sustaining the apartheid efforts.

That much is obvious. Perhaps the fact that he shared the Nobel Peace prize with Nelson Mandela might give you a clue.

Quote

Just being lazy ....

Equally obvious.

Oh, there you go. my apologies to F.W. de Klerk. Obviously not related to trump and his misfits.

[billvon 2,400]

Some Trump supporters are now admitting the obvious. (We have _got_ to get one of these shirts for RushMC . . . .)

[Phil1111 911]

Smarter than you think: Turns out, children can differentiate between leaders and bullies

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/smarter-than-you-think-turns-out-children-can-differentiate-between-leaders-and-bullies/articleshow/65671866.cms

WASHINGTON D.C [USA]: Turns out, infants have the ability to differentiate between leaders and bullies.

According to a recent study, 21-month-old infants can distinguish between respect-based power asserted by a leader and fear-based power wielded by a bully.

The study reported a standard approach for measuring expectations in children too young to explain their thinking to adults. This "violation-of-expectation" method relies on the observation that infants stare longer at eve.

Previous studies had shown that infants can recognise power differences between two or more characters.

Renee Baillargeon, who conducted the new research said, "For example, infants will stare longer at scenarios where larger characters defer to smaller ones. They also take note when a character who normally wins a confrontation with another suddenly loses, but little was known about infants' ability to distinguish between different bases of power."


Yet trump supporters can't!!!! Ironic eh Marc?