Amazon 7 #51 July 28, 2015 normiss The entire flag ordeal is just silly. Get over it already. The good ole boys showing off their "heritage" not hate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #52 July 28, 2015 QuoteThere are about 9 million African-Americans in the US who, thanks largely to the way the Confederate flag has been co-opted by certain white racists as a symbol of their racism . . . , Wondering where you got the 9 million number. Googling the US census stats I get: Quote In 2013, the population of African Americans including those of more than one race was estimated at 45 million, making up 15.2% of the total U.S. population. Those who identified only as African American made up 13.2% of the U.S. population-over 41.7 million people. Are you suggesting only 21% of blacks are offended by the flag, or am I missing something? For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #53 July 28, 2015 Quote Wondering where you got the 9 million number. Oops. It was because when I quickly scanned the Wiki article, I didn't realize I was looking at the passage referencing the statistic for the year 1900. Sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 277 #54 July 28, 2015 And for some variety after all the reports of adult females Cosby likely sexually assaulted, recently I read: Quote Bill Cosby lost his latest bid to fend off a lawsuit accusing him of sexually abusing a 15-year-old girl at the Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles in 1974 [Reuters etc July 22] Wait, WTF? At the Playboy Mansion? I'm not blaming the victim, but what exactly was she doing there? Summer jobs for kids at the Playboy Mansion? Guess I don't really know what the place is all about. Just doesn't sound like an "all ages" venue... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,739 #55 July 28, 2015 >clearly you support rapists. And murderers (I've watched Naked Gun) and psychopaths (Dexter) and even Hitler! (Hogan's Heroes.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #56 July 28, 2015 Andy9o8***The entire flag ordeal is just silly. Get over it already. There are about 9 million African-Americans in the US who, thanks largely to the way the Confederate flag has been co-opted by certain white racists as a symbol of their racism, feel viscerally about the Confederate flag just as, say, Jews feel about the Swastika, a 1,000 year-old symbol that was co-opted by the Nazis. So while it might be rational for you to wish, for ethically sound reasons, for people to get over it, that's simply not going to happen, at least probably not in your or my lifetime. How the fuck do you know what's going to happen in his lifetime? Do you plan on killing him because he opposes your whiney politically correct bullshit? Get over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,739 #57 July 28, 2015 Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #58 July 28, 2015 JerryBaumchenHi Keith, A little update: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bill-cosby-scandal-35-accusers-appear-new-york-magazine-cover-n398941 Jerry Baumchen Afternoon, Jerry. At this point, I think his only saving grace is the statute of limitations.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #59 July 29, 2015 regulator******The entire flag ordeal is just silly. Get over it already. There are about 9 million African-Americans in the US who, thanks largely to the way the Confederate flag has been co-opted by certain white racists as a symbol of their racism, feel viscerally about the Confederate flag just as, say, Jews feel about the Swastika, a 1,000 year-old symbol that was co-opted by the Nazis. So while it might be rational for you to wish, for ethically sound reasons, for people to get over it, that's simply not going to happen, at least probably not in your or my lifetime. How the fuck do you know what's going to happen in his lifetime? Do you plan on killing him because he opposes your whiney politically correct bullshit? Get over it.really? Are seriously defending Cosby? (Ron Wesley voice) you really need to sort out your priorities(/rwv)I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #61 December 30, 2015 To me... this is prosecutorial misconduct and grandstanding. Where's the police report from 12 years ago. It is unfortunate in some cases that prosecutors are protected and have immunity for their actions. After several hours of reading the Pennsylvania code... I'm changing my position. Quite frankly, I'm just lost on this one. So many years to wait, then once one comes out, 39 others join in. I do think this is going to be a long road to hoe for everyone involved.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 224 #62 December 31, 2015 Given this writeup, I think the balance has tipped rather against Cosby. It's a pity that any good points he ever may have made are now subject to ad hominem (circumstantial) dismissal. In a sense, many of his rants are actually substantiated by his track record as much as Bernie Madoff noting that the outrage against him was unfounded, given that the Government was a Ponzi scheme. The old 'it takes one to know one.' When he said that fucking anything in sight was not a good thing, I don't think he excepted himself from that observation. I have met women who claimed that no meant yes, that it was just teasing and playing hard to get, and those who claimed to have rape fantasies, but all that seems to be a fucked-up flip side of the same coin. The very existence of that mindset (rare though it may be) only seems to bolster the self-image your average rapist as being the last of the red hot lovers, and the illusion that their objects of affection actually love every second of it. One writer pointed out that Cosby is as much a necrophiliac as a rapist. Getting aroused by a someone who is completely unresponsive is as incomprehensible as is getting aroused by someone who is screaming in terror. I don't get either. In any event, Cosby is pretty much toast at this point. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 723 #63 December 31, 2015 Keep in mind he has admitted under oath to drugging women in order to have sex with them, or words to that effect anyway. I think he may have damned himself in numerous ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #64 December 31, 2015 I agree with you on all points. Pretty powerful article.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,826 #65 June 30, 2021 https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/30/us/bill-cosby-to-be-released/index.html Bill Cosby to be released after Pennsylvania Supreme Court vacates conviction and judgment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #66 June 30, 2021 From what I understand, this has nothing to do with his guilt or lack there of, he was released on a technicality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SethInMI 160 #67 June 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, brenthutch said: he was released on a technicality yes. basically a version of double jeopardy, which is news to me. Sounds like the court said if the announces that he won't prosecute you for a crime, and then you admit to it, you can't be prosecuted again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,347 #68 June 30, 2021 Just now, SethInMI said: yes. basically a version of double jeopardy, which is news to me. Sounds like the court said if the announces that he won't prosecute you for a crime, and then you admit to it, you can't be prosecuted again... No, that's wrong. It's nothing to do with double jeopardy. It's because he was induced to incriminate himself by a prosecutor who promised not to use those incriminating statements against him, then they were used. 5th Amendment violation. If he'd been convicted without his statements being used against him (and in hindsight it's hard to imagine that the rest of the case against him wouldn't have been strong enough to hold up at trial) then that conviction would have been solid. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,271 #69 June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, SethInMI said: yes. basically a version of double jeopardy, which is news to me. Sounds like the court said if the announces that he won't prosecute you for a crime, and then you admit to it, you can't be prosecuted again... Hi Seth, the court found that Cosby's due process rights were violated when he was charged for a 2004 assault after prosecutors previously promised the comedian they wouldn't bring criminal charges against him. Bill Cosby's Sexual Assault Conviction Overturned By Pennsylvania Court : NPR I have to agree with the court. Cosby is an old man who will never work in the entertainment industry again. Constand got him for $3.38 million. Some justice for her; little for the other victims. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,826 #70 June 30, 2021 Even jerks have a right to Constitutional protections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 601 #71 June 30, 2021 Why am I surprised that a crooked lawyer breached another lawyer's promise?????? Sarcasm! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
