Just as the reasonable people predicted . . .

[Stumpy 256]

:D

My name is Inigo Montoya......

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[turtlespeed 212]

Stumpy

:D

My name is Inigo Montoya......

If only we had a holocaust cloak . . .

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Kennedy 0]

... if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*

[regulator 0]

I'm not left-handed either.

[Bignugget 0]

I randomly went to the HC.gov site watching Colbert.

It won't let me sign up, says its down for maintenance, but it quoted me a bunch of plans and prices based on my age and location.

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-premium-estimates/#results/&aud=indv&type=med&state=MO&county=St.%20Louis&cov=self&age=49andUnder

Those are all WAY cheaper than what I pay now......might have to give this marketplace thing a look.

[regulator 0]

figures nugget would be the one to ruin a good thing.

[airdvr 200]

Bignugget

I randomly went to the HC.gov site watching Colbert.

It won't let me sign up, says its down for maintenance, but it quoted me a bunch of plans and prices based on my age and location.

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-premium-estimates/#results/&aud=indv&type=med&state=MO&county=St.%20Louis&cov=self&age=49andUnder

Those are all WAY cheaper than what I pay now......might have to give this marketplace thing a look.

Hehe...it quoted you numbers. Nothing about coverages or deductibles. Nothing more dangerous than a little information.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Bignugget 0]

airdvr

***I randomly went to the HC.gov site watching Colbert.

It won't let me sign up, says its down for maintenance, but it quoted me a bunch of plans and prices based on my age and location.

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-premium-estimates/#results/&aud=indv&type=med&state=MO&county=St.%20Louis&cov=self&age=49andUnder

Those are all WAY cheaper than what I pay now......might have to give this marketplace thing a look.

Hehe...it quoted you numbers. Nothing about coverages or deductibles. Nothing more dangerous than a little information.

Ill keep checking in for more information, but they have to at least meet the minimum mandate.

My current policy meets the mandate (is grandfathered in) and is going to run me ~$250 a month from here out, $1000 deductible.

[davjohns 1]

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[BIGUN 1,109]

Bignugget

Ill keep checking in for more information,

While you're at it; check on the difference between coinsurance and deductibles.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[regulator 0]

davjohns

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.

[OHCHUTE 0]

Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

[kallend 1,683]

OHCHUTE

Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Capitalism is wonderful.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

***Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Government manipulated Capitalism is wonderful.

FIFY

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Bignugget 0]

rushmc

******Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Government manipulated Capitalism is wonderful.

FIFY

You love it when it manipulates farms, coal, gas, steel, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

[rushmc 18]

Bignugget

*********Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Government manipulated Capitalism is wonderful.

FIFY

You love it when it manipulates farms, coal, gas, steel, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

No
actually I dont
and if you were honest and paid any attention at all, you would know this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 212]

rushmc

************Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Government manipulated Capitalism is wonderful.

FIFY

You love it when it manipulates farms, coal, gas, steel, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

No
actually I dont
and if you were honest and paid any attention at all, you would know this

That is an unreasonable expectation.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rushmc 18]

turtlespeed

***************Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Government manipulated Capitalism is wonderful.

FIFY

You love it when it manipulates farms, coal, gas, steel, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

No
actually I dont
and if you were honest and paid any attention at all, you would know this

That is an unreasonable expectation.



I wish better for everyone

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DrewEckhardt 0]

kallend

***Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Capitalism is wonderful.

It is.

Go down to Mexico and you can pay $25 cash for doctor visits or $35 for a one day hospital stay with a private room (one in America charged my insurance company $12,000 and I had to share with a guy having his knee replaced). Those are totals not insurance co-pays.

While "capitalism" elsewhere and "corporatism" in America both start with the letter 'C' they are very different, much like the difference between "socialism" elsewhere and "corporatism" here with both ending in "ism."

With capitalism companies compete in free markets with the interaction between supply and demand curves producing lower prices and/or more value for the same money.

With corporatism they get laws passed on their behalf so that doesn't happen. For example, the most profitable forms of health insurance can be paid for with pre-tax dollars which lets the providers collect up to double the money for the same difference in take-home pay.

[SkyDekker 1,155]

DrewEckhardt

******Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Capitalism is wonderful.

It is.

Go down to Mexico and you can pay $25 cash for doctor visits or $35 for a one day hospital stay with a private room (one in America charged my insurance company $12,000 and I had to share with a guy having his knee replaced). Those are totals not insurance co-pays.

While "capitalism" elsewhere and "corporatism" in America both start with the letter 'C' they are very different, much like the difference between "socialism" elsewhere and "corporatism" here with both ending in "ism."

With capitalism companies compete in free markets with the interaction between supply and demand curves producing lower prices and/or more value for the same money.

With corporatism they get laws passed on their behalf so that doesn't happen. For example, the most profitable forms of health insurance can be paid for with pre-tax dollars which lets the providers collect up to double the money for the same difference in take-home pay.

So, the market place should be completely unregulated?

When the mexican doctor fucks it all up and you lose a leg, or arm, or eye, or kidney. What exactly is your recourse?

[lawrocket 3]

kallend

***Insurance firms were salivating upon the thought of Obamacare. Major insurance firms announced long ago they'd have to raise rates 25% to handle complying with the law.

Capitalism is wonderful.

Pharma loves it, too.

This brought corporate welfare to a whole new place never seen by the federal government. It REQUIRES people to purchase a particular service from a private company.

That's not capitalism. That's called corporatocracy.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[tkhayes 154]

http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/10/24/49-stories-that-the-medias-focus-on-aca-glitche/196587

[RonD1120 58]

Andy9o8

Turtle needs to be more like you, Ron. You got mad skilz.

Thank you.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[lawrocket 3]

turtlespeed

The news is getting so bad that even the left "Cover Obama's Ass" can't ignore it any longer.

Yes, Obama ABSOLUTELY knew that we would lose our coverage.

But he still kept telling us we wouldn't.

Now the President is explaining himself. And now we can all feel better that he is looking out for us. "Just shop around in the new marketplace," said the President. "You're going to get a better deal." The President added, "Remember, before the Affordable Care Act, these bad-apple insurers had free rein every single year to limit the care that you received, or used minor pre-existing conditions to jack up your premiums, or bill you into bankruptcy."

So the President has explained it. When he said, "If you like your plan you can keep it" what he meant was, "If I like your plan, you can keep it. If you like your plan but I don't like it, then you can either pay a fine or sign up for a plan that I say is better for you."

See, the President is blaming "bad apple" insurers. There are insurers out there who will actually offer plans that people want! So there are in excess of 1.5 million plans out there being canceled? According to the President, that's a great thing because people SHOULDN'T have wanted those plans, anyway.

When he said "if you like it you can keep it" his teleprompter malfunctioned. It should have been, "If your plan is canceled, then you didn't want it, anyway." "If I like you like your doctor, then we'll tell you whether you should have liked him/her."

Thank you, Mr. President. I'm so glad that you are there to reeducate people who don't know what the fuck is good for them. It doesn't matter if they subjectively liked their plans. If they did like their plans but lost them, well, they shouldn't have.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[turtlespeed 212]

I wonder what they will be telling us next.

Maybe I shouldn't drive a grey truck, What if Obama likes Red better.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun