Lefty 0 #1 October 4, 2011 And it's real, as far as I can tell. Clicky. I find demands 1,2,3,4, and 11 especially myopic, but I expect nothing less from these kiddies.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #2 October 4, 2011 Quote Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. Demand four: Free college education. Quote These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy. *sigh* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentsmith413 0 #3 October 4, 2011 demand 4 isn't completely wacky. There are plenty of countries that give free college education. The other demands are certainly nuts but i think free college education can be done as well as be beneficial to our country.Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, all used up, and loudly proclaiming: Wow, what a ride! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 October 4, 2011 Here they are: Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr. - Yet another example of how raising everybody leads to a poverty level of $60k per year because goods and services are so expensive and unemployment so high that things become worse. The theory that socialism has proven is that “You can’t cure poverty by throwing money at it.” Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors. – Considering that insurers take their cue from Medicare and Medicaid, I cannot fathom how the government skimming off the top, paying less, and denying coverage will be any better than insurance companies skimming off the top, paying less and denying coverage except that the freedom to pay cash will be gone. Again, facts are lost such as the fact that government spending on healthcare is ALREADY the majority of spending Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. wages are paid for employment. This is a guaranteed living wage for sitting on your ass. In other words, the protestors are pissed off that they aren’t getting paid a living wage to protest Demand four: Free college education. It ain’t free. Someone has to pay for it. Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand. Ahhhh! Yes. This is why they are protesting Wall Street! Fossil fuels. And "bring the alternative energy economy up to energy demand?" And "fast track" it? How? Please let us know how that will work? Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. Here’s something I don’t have a problem with – spending on something that everybody uses and everybody should pay for. Let’s get rid of spending that only a select few receive and go from there Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants. Okay, hippies. Now you are sounding ridiculous. One trillion dollars? To destroy all dams, power plants, and you want to end fossil fuels. How many people do you want to kill? Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment. Again, protesting Wall Street for this? Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. How about protesting the UN for this one, dunces? Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system. Show me those standards Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. That’s called, “elimination of all money.” Say goodbye to all banks, currency, etc. Want to really fuck the poor? Do this. Only the very wealthy will have anything if this happens. Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. Good call. Let’s outlaw any use of reputation because, by golly by gee, a person’s history should not be considered. Why not eliminate sex offender registries, too. Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union. And allow any worker who doesn’t want a union to opt out without penalty and make unions comply with anti-trust laws. I’m all for that. These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy. Yep. As people leave the US for work they must be able to get out. Ever notice the problem with this type of shit? They never say “Here’s how this can be done.” Also, these protestors would never, ever do certain things themselves. Pay someone $20 per hour? No way. They want to be paid $20 per hour. It’s the typical thing. “Give us jobs!” is the chant. Versus, “Let’s create jobs.” Let someone else do it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #5 October 4, 2011 All I hear is "Wahhhh wahhh, me me me, gimme gimme gimme" Seriously, how asinine can they be. And the word "free" is tossed around without an iota of thought given to where these "Free" services get their funding from...TAXES. Over-educated my ass.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #6 October 4, 2011 You can't fix stupid, but you can certainly demand itYou stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #7 October 4, 2011 Quote And it's real, as far as I can tell. except it's not stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #8 October 4, 2011 I was going to replay to each demand ... but then I realized I was being trolled. Right? It has to be a troll. It has to ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 October 4, 2011 Quote Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. That’s called, “elimination of all money.” Say goodbye to all banks, currency, etc. Want to really fuck the poor? Do this. Only the very wealthy will have anything if this happens. I love this one. I wonder if they realise that it means the bank no longer owes them any money for their account. "How much food do you have?" or more probably, "How much ammo do you have?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #10 October 4, 2011 They should have asked for the US to revoke all disease. I mean, it's the least the US can do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #11 October 4, 2011 A kitten in every pot! - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #12 October 4, 2011 QuoteHere they are: ... While this laundry list of demands is quite unreasonable, I've been reading some of the news articles where the protestors are interviewed. In interviews, they tend to focus on a particular demand: reducing corporate influence over the political process. That specific demand seems quite reasonable to me, even if this longer list is pretty over the top."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #13 October 4, 2011 QuoteAnd it's real, as far as I can tell. Clicky. I find demands 1,2,3,4, and 11 especially myopic, but I expect nothing less from these kiddies. A single web forum post does not constitute an official platform. It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #14 October 4, 2011 Quote It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. Why bother? There's nothing there worthy of being discredited. It's laughable.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 October 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnd it's real, as far as I can tell. Clicky. I find demands 1,2,3,4, and 11 especially myopic, but I expect nothing less from these kiddies. A single web forum post does not constitute an official platform. It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. No, this is their "official" website. What you see here is the problems of not having an actual agenda or clue. This laundry list of demands is what happens when you have a large committee and a large stash of weed. And for all these items, they missed the bit about corporate greed or reducing their influence over policy making. Though I think it's funny that they are exercising their 1st amendment rights to protest, but having a problem when others do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 October 4, 2011 QuoteIn interviews, they tend to focus on a particular demand: reducing corporate influence over the political process. Yep. Instead of holding the politicians accountable for being easily greased, they look at the grease as the problem. This is the fucking ridiculousness of it all. "Corporations have the politicians in their pockets! Corporations are so bad!" The politicians who spend hours every day one the phones looking for campaign donations? No. The problem is not with them. And get the irony of unions supporting the protest. Unions are some of the - if not the - biggest contributors to political campaigns. Here's the unions' message: "They shouldn't b allowed to grease politicians. Only WE should be allowed to grease politicians." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #17 October 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd it's real, as far as I can tell. Clicky. I find demands 1,2,3,4, and 11 especially myopic, but I expect nothing less from these kiddies. A single web forum post does not constitute an official platform. It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. No, this is their "official" website. What you see here is the problems of not having an actual agenda or clue. This laundry list of demands is what happens when you have a large committee and a large stash of weed. And for all these items, they missed the bit about corporate greed or reducing their influence over policy making. Though I think it's funny that they are exercising their 1st amendment rights to protest, but having a problem when others do the same. WTF! ...No Cheetos on the list!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #18 October 5, 2011 >Instead of holding the politicians accountable for being easily greased, >they look at the grease as the problem. "We demand that people like us not be allowed to influence corporations!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #19 October 5, 2011 "... a world where no child is below average." (extra points for anybody who remembers what movie that's from)You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #20 October 5, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote And it's real, as far as I can tell. Clicky. I find demands 1,2,3,4, and 11 especially myopic, but I expect nothing less from these kiddies. A single web forum post does not constitute an official platform. It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. No, this is their "official" website. What you see here is the problems of not having an actual agenda or clue. This laundry list of demands is what happens when you have a large committee and a large stash of weed. And for all these items, they missed the bit about corporate greed or reducing their influence over policy making. Though I think it's funny that they are exercising their 1st amendment rights to protest, but having a problem when others do the same. WTF! ...No Cheetos on the list!? No, but twinkies were on the right side of the page...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #21 October 5, 2011 I'm hearing that the "leader" of this group is Obama's ex Green-Czar. That would explain why all the unions are hoping on the bus, etc. Could Obama be orchestrating this???We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sacex250 0 #22 October 5, 2011 My anti-virus software blocked the page as a Malicious Website.It's all been said before, no sense repeating it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #23 October 5, 2011 Idiocracy?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #24 October 5, 2011 "They should have asked for the US to revoke all disease." Outstanding.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #25 October 5, 2011 QuoteMy anti-virus software blocked the page as a Malicious Website. You need a more progressive anti-virus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites