champu 1 #176 March 3, 2011 QuoteOK here is an example, you like sports cars? Really? A sports car analogy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missbrz 0 #177 March 3, 2011 Quote Quote OK here is an example, you like sports cars? Really? A sports car analogy? Sure! Why not? You ride cars; you ride girls. We get more attention when we're shiny and go fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #178 March 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote OK here is an example, you like sports cars? Really? A sports car analogy? Sure! Why not? You ride cars; you ride girls. We get more attention when we're shiny and go fast. Well I was going to go for sport bikes but...not every one rides. Can you think of a better one?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #179 March 3, 2011 QuoteBill, If she showed up without any baggage. The girl was tool food for 7 years, and has a little one in hand....which means the tool is now a part of the picture. You're assuming that only the girl has made poor dating choices during these 7 years... It's just as likely that the "nice guy" has baggage as well by this point - it's called life... It happens. To everyone."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,436 #180 March 3, 2011 >The girl was tool food for 7 years, and has a little one in hand....which >means the tool is now a part of the picture. Yep. And some women who I am sure you describe as "tools" are part of my past, as well. Wouldn't want to be with them today, but I'm glad I met them, because I had fun and learned about women (and myself) from the experience. >OK here is an example, you like sports cars? >OK how about I buy one, abuse the crap out of it treat it like dirt......and at 50k >miles hand it over to you at a really good price....for me! >Would you want that car? No, because the car is now worn out; half its lifetime is gone and it will have serious maintenance problems. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not really making an analogy suggesting the 25 year old woman is now as worn out (physically) as an old car. So let's take a different example. I offer you two potential skydiving coaches; I'll cover the cost. One is 18 and has 4 jumps. He's very excited and does not have any preconceptions about skydiving instruction. He's never been "tool food" or had to prostitute himself to a manufacturer to jump. He really, really wants you - and you alone - as a coaching student. The second has 4000 jumps; he's 25. He's been on two sponsored 4-way teams. He has been sponsored by three different gear manufacturers. He's worked for skydiving schools and on TV shows as a stuntperson. He's worked with a dozen other coaching students before. Which coach would you rather have? Will you reject the second one because they are "student food?" After all, they've been with other - even lesser - students! Won't they carry all that baggage over to you? How will you live with yourself knowing who they coached in the past? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #181 March 3, 2011 Quoteyou like sports cars? OK how about I buy one, abuse the crap out of it treat it like dirt......and at 50k miles hand it over to you at a really good price....for me! Would you want that car? Sure why not, if the price is right. Cars can be rebuilt. Oh and people can change. But the change must come from within. The person must want to change. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #182 March 3, 2011 Quote I'm no ones plan B! Bumper stickers available in the lobby as you leave, folks. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topdocker 0 #183 March 3, 2011 Quote Quote I'm no ones plan B! Bumper stickers available in the lobby as you leave, folks. Obviously, he's no one's Plan A either..... topJump more, post less! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missbrz 0 #184 March 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I'm no ones plan B! Bumper stickers available in the lobby as you leave, folks. Obviously, he's no one's Plan A either..... top It's probably b/c he's got baggage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #185 March 3, 2011 Quote You're assuming that only the girl has made poor dating choices during these 7 years... It's just as likely that the "nice guy" has baggage as well by this point - it's called life... It happens. To everyone. Girl I'm sorry no matter how you spin this to make the girl in the story sound as if she was just some girl learning about life and what not...the truth is that the guy was hunted and killed to save her ass. Hell even the girl has admitted to it....after a few drinks. Exact words "I use to date these guys (tools) god it was good, god it was fun, we rode fast cars, we drank, we partied they looked good and were just wild.....I loved it. And well life throws you a curve ball and well, maybe you just have to make the best of a difficult situation." I know you want people to be good and I want the same. I hope for the same but you and I both know people can be very very wrong. And do you want to be called "the best of a difficult situation"? I know I don't. For you know in the middle of the night, when your partner can't sleep....do you think they are thinking of how great you ARE? Or how much fun and exciting things WERE? To the OP, as my Yoga instructor once said. "Shah, you are in your early 30's. Everyone stable enough to be married is and those who were not stable enough are not or are now divorced. Dating in your 30's is like walking from one land mine to another. And well with your two basic rules of no big girls and no moms...it's not going to be an easy ride if you want to date with in your age bracket." Maybe that's the issue? Maybe you need to date younger? Or older? I haven't tried either but I'm giving it strong thought. After all who knows right?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #186 March 3, 2011 I think you misunderstood... Why do you assume the girl is the only one who could possibly have baggage?? The "nice guy" has had absolutely nothing at all happen to him in 7 years? Really?? Really??!"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topdocker 0 #187 March 3, 2011 QuoteI think you misunderstood... Why do you assume the girl is the only one who could possibly have baggage?? The "nice guy" has had absolutely nothing at all happen to him in 7 years? Really?? Really??! Shhh, Nataly. Don't speak the truth. That's not what he wants to hear! topJump more, post less! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #188 March 3, 2011 QuoteI think you misunderstood... Why do you assume the girl is the only one who could possibly have baggage?? The "nice guy" has had absolutely nothing at all happen to him in 7 years? Really?? Really??! I'll be honest with you, and I know you are not going to believe me.....He's the nicest guy I have ever met! He makes Forest Gump look like the Devil! He is just a great guy. He is now doing for this girl what I did for my x. Which equates to everything. Is he damaged? Tainted? Well he doesn't seem it. From speaking to him he went out with about 4 girls before he met little Ms. Harpoon. Look I really am sorry that you want this little story to be as Hollywood wants it to be that the girl can do no wrong but...from the looks of it. It was premeditated well organized harpooning of a guy who knows no better....for now. But one day he will understand and that will be a sad day. There is a reason why Zeus chained Prometheus to the mountain and had his liver eaten every day for all of eternity. It is at times better to live in the dark not knowing what lies in the corners than to have light brought in and be aware. I will not be his Prometheus. But she will have to live with her self. And thus far she has done it well. all if fair in love and war and I'm very glad I no longer live next to her.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #189 March 3, 2011 Have you people watched Jersey Shore? Are you honestly telling me that the kind of behavior the women on that show engage in is going to make a woman more mature, wise and date worthy? Are you people on drugs? Fucking various bad boys and douche bags for 5 to 10 years isn't going to do anything else then fuck up someones psyche completely.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #190 March 3, 2011 I don't care who they date brother. It's their lives let them do what they want to do. What gets me and bothers me, is when some one any one uses someone as a safety net. And then tries to tell me that they are not. Look be honest, it's a good way to live. Don't all of a sudden at 30 stop look around and grab the first "nice guy" if all you have dated are tools. It's not right. You dated tools from 15-30, go marry one! So what they don't have a job and are jerks. Nice guys / nice girls are not safety nets.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #191 March 3, 2011 QuoteNice guys / nice girls are not safety nets. Bumper stickers and T-shirts! Don't forget them folks! They're in the lobby as you leave! Get one of each!I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #192 March 3, 2011 Quote ...& this is exactly why I have the respect & liking that I do towards you & your wife, Twardo ! It was evident in the time I spent with her, & what we confided with each other about our families & relationship...the reciproction of the mutual respect; while retaining your own identities & independence, towards each other ! What a nice way to put it...! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,401 #193 March 3, 2011 Quote I think you misunderstood... Why do you assume the girl is the only one who could possibly have baggage?? The "nice guy" has had absolutely nothing at all happen to him in 7 years? Really?? Really??! Whatever you do, don't show this to Shah http://www.wfu.edu/wowf/2010/20100608.simon.php "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #194 March 3, 2011 You're making it sound as if all "nice guys" are total morons. If they're choosing to date women who treat them like crap, then aren't they just like the women who apparently got all this baggage from dating "tools"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #195 March 3, 2011 Man who doesn't know this; Contrary to popular belief, the ups and downs of romantic relationships have a greater effect on the mental health of young men than women, according to a new study by Professor of Sociology Robin Simon. Look I just feel bad for the guy. And for anyone who is from the inside out a good person and gets used by those are are not. If that's wrong, well then you know what I'm ok with it. And guys do this too. I'm not saying it's just the girls who screw the guys. Guys do it as well. I'm not blind in my view. This is just one example I know. I'm sure there are many more. Dogs who hit the ground hard, broken and broke find girl who is 30 and wants to get married and he says yes...just so he has some one to take care of him. Life sucks man. As for the OP, sorry this thread was hijacked.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,436 #196 March 3, 2011 >Have you people watched Jersey Shore? No, I find real life to be more representative of . . . real life. >Are you honestly telling me that the kind of behavior the women on that show >engage in is going to make a woman more mature, wise and date worthy? No. I don't care much what people do to get on TV. Not really that important to me. >Fucking various bad boys and douche bags for 5 to 10 years isn't going to do anything >else then fuck up someones psyche completely. Hmm. I've had relationships with crazy (in one case certifiably crazy) women. It seemed to be my specialty for a while. My psyche seems to have survived. (Well, not everyone may agree, but . . . .) A good friend of mine spent years married to an abusive and psychotic man. She's much more mature and wise now. Has a great family, a daughter at Harvard, published a book, has a PhD and is teaching at a local college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #197 March 3, 2011 QuoteI've had relationships with certifiably crazy women. It seemed to be my specialty for a while. And buttons! Bumper stickers, T-shirts and buttons! Get your amusing sayings on your favorite mug or hat!I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #198 March 3, 2011 QuoteBut here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful! If I were this dude I wouldn't count on this part: it is very likely that my income increases The Wall Street trading game can be very much a young man's game (apologies for any sexism/ageism but the majority of traders are both young and male). One's ability to maintain the stamina for that kind of job/income can fade with age just as surely as physical beauty does. Both the woman in the Craigslist ad and the man replying strike me as young and a bit overconfident of their beauty/income potential."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #199 March 3, 2011 Respond to a lot of emails asking you to hide some money for the rich guy fleeing a third world country, don't you?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #200 March 3, 2011 QuoteRespond to a lot of emails asking you to hide some money for the rich guy fleeing a third world country, don't you? Sorry I don't follow this. The messages from Craiglist that were posted are a bit of a caricature, but they aren't THAT different from how people really are on Wall Street. I base that opinion from having worked on Wall Street when I was a younger man. The difference between Wall Street and the Nigerian 419 scams is that there is indeed real money on Wall Street, but it is an intoxicating, fleeting, sort of wealth that isn't as conducive to stable romance as this guy/gal seem to think. One of my co-workers lost $400M and was fired--let's just say he'll never work in that town again."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
