skydiver30960 0 #1 December 5, 2012 ...I don't mean what would happen if little green men came to Earth a-la The Day the Earth Stood Still or Independence Day because I think we'd all agree that we'd go completely xenophobic and make real asses of ourselves. BUT, what if we knew life existed on another world, but we were informed in a way that was totally unthreatening to us? Like, what if we got a radio message sent back to us... something like "hey, we're getting your messages, all is well, keep sending us more episodes of I Love Lucy." Would it galvanize us as a species? Would we still freak out? Or would we pretty much scan over it in in the news, complain about all the alien posts in our FB feeds, and pretty much ignore the whole momentous occasion? Elvisio "Like Contact, only without the crappy acting" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #2 December 5, 2012 Interesting question. We, as a whole, are apathetic. When it's pointed out that bad shit is happening, we tend to think that " no it cannot be happening to us (certainly, not ME!) " That being said, are we talking something microbial? Heck, we can't deal with the flu, here, so why would we be able to deal with this? History proves that we don't act till very late in the whole scenario. But, at the same time, It's pretty darn hard to kill us. But then again, maybe this is good for us? lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #3 December 5, 2012 I think a whole bunch of religious leaders would be burning the midnight oil on re-writes! Considering the vastness of the universe and the fact it happened here...we'd have to be pretty conceded to think it didn't happen elsewhere. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #4 December 5, 2012 QuoteWould it galvanize us as a species? Would we still freak out? Simply a radio contact? We'd freak out. No question. Well, for about a month or until Psy made "Gangnam Style 2", whichever came first really.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #5 December 5, 2012 William Shatner would be stocking up on Viagra. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Polite 0 #6 December 5, 2012 I think we would try to kill them off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #7 December 5, 2012 QuoteI think we would try to kill them off. Well, I don't think you've thought that through. If you look at the history of the universe, we're pretty later comers to the game. Odds are any other civilization we could contact are at least as or, far more likely, far more advanced than we are. Now, look at the history of the Earth and what happens when a more advanced civilization meets a lesser advanced one. Almost without exception, the lesser advanced civilization gets slaughtered. We have no means whatsoever to travel to any other solar system, yet it's entirely possible (not likely, but possible) they have the means to travel to ours. How, precisely, do you intend on killing them?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #8 December 5, 2012 I think it's ridiculous for us to think we are the only ones out here. With our limited travel ability and limited ability to even look very far into the universe there is no telling what is out there. I'd personally like to see some aliens to show up and put us in check. We are spoiled children in the scheme of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #9 December 5, 2012 Quote BUT, what if we knew life existed on another world, but we were informed in a way that was totally unthreatening to us? Like, what if we got a radio message sent back to us... something like "hey, we're getting your messages, all is well, keep sending us more episodes of I Love Lucy." If contact happened, I would expect the the powers to protect from the truth. I mean, when is the right time to tell your kids that the easter bunny doesn't exist. (sorry to those who are just finding out about that now.) My opinion is that if we knew about E.T. life/communication. 'WE' wouldn't know about it until it was too late. It's hard to control people who have hope. So, It's easier to keep them guessing and wondering so, religious/governmental organizations can still make billions of dollars by telling us only what you need to know. If there was contact from other worldly beings and they could not threaten us why would we (the kids) need to know. It would only make us ask questions they couldn't answer. My thought is that life does exist somewhere (else) in this vast universe. It would be a waste of an awfully large amount of space if there wasn't.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #10 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteI think we would try to kill them off. Well, I don't think you've thought that through. If you look at the history of the universe, we're pretty later comers to the game. Odds are any other civilization we could contact are at least as or, far more likely, far more advanced than we are. Now, look at the history of the Earth and what happens when a more advanced civilization meets a lesser advanced one. Almost without exception, the lesser advanced civilization gets slaughtered. We have no means whatsoever to travel to any other solar system, yet it's entirely possible (not likely, but possible) they have the means to travel to ours. How, precisely, do you intend on killing them? Do you truthfully think we're been visited already? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 December 5, 2012 Quote Do you truthfully think we're been visited already? It would absolutely explain why some people are completely off the deep end, wouldn't it? I mean, I would prefer to think of some people as genetic experiments rather than a products of our society.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #12 December 5, 2012 I'd want to learn about it (them?). "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyfree 0 #13 December 5, 2012 Quote Do you truthfully think we're been visited already? A guy with a bad tan and bad hair told me so.-- Blue Skies NO FEARS, NO LIMITS, NO MONEY... "A Subitánea et Improvísa Morte, Líbera nos, Domine." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #14 December 5, 2012 QuoteDo you truthfully think we're been visited already? No. The odds are ridiculously low against any sort of interstellar space travel. The energy requirements make no sense for "visits."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #15 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you truthfully think we're been visited already? No. The odds are ridiculously low against any sort of interstellar space travel. The energy requirements make no sense for "visits." I dunno, that same argument could have been made a couple hundred years ago regarding travel to the moon. I think if a 'society' has a few million years head start on us technologically speaking, they certainly may have found a way... ...and who's to say another life form would be a fragile as we are, could be a few thousand of 'our' years is a weekend cruise for them and their lifespan. I think it's a possibility...some advanced form checks 'us' out now & again. Earth: inhabited by primitive yet highly social beings that look funny and taste bad. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #16 December 5, 2012 If the universe is infinite, there should be infinite life in it. The level of technological sophistication should run the spectrum. We have no way of knowing where we are on the spectrum. We could be topped out or sucking hind tit. If you could prove to me today that sentient life was on the moon, I'm not sure it would have much effect on me. I call my parents about once per week; my best friend about once per month; haven't spoken to my brother since I left the States four months ago. Unless this ET posts on a website I frequent, we'll probably never have any contact...no matter how ubiquitous or scarce they are. Think back to the last time you had contact with some of the people you have been close to. Then, tell me you are going to go ape trying to contact someone you don't know just because they grew up on another planet. This is my basic complaint about the space program. Yes, it is neat. But we have better things to do with the money at the moment. When we can be good custodians of this planet, then we can look at visiting others. Maybe other life forms don't visit us because their social services departments haven't gotten around to trying to help us out of our situation, yet. When they do get here, they may take the kids away from us when they see how we are raising them. Eh...just random thoughts.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 126 #17 December 5, 2012 not at all - I think the religious world (Christian in particular) would simply say, well God made those 'things' as well and just did not tell us about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #18 December 5, 2012 Quote I think it's ridiculous forus to think we are the only ones out here. With our limited travel abilityand limited abilityto even look very far into the universe there is no telling what is out there. I'd personally liketo see some aliensto show upand putus in check. We are spoiled children in the scheme of things. I agree with The above statement...right down to the last sentence...... i've often thought that If contact was made... in the form of intelligent (and hopefully Peaceful ) Life, arriving on Earth, we would be Gracious Hosts, as we "grasp the Enormity" of it All. I'd forsee a "UFO"touching down say, in Europe... amassing the media and TV news crews etc etc to announce, " we have Finally had it !!! with You people".. we've been monitoring you for 10,000 of Your years" "you're doing it ALL wrong"....and then, since tha naysayers WILL cast doubt on the arrival... the ETs would then announce... " we are leaving here ( Europe) now ,and will ARRIVE in what YOU call Sydney Aus. in FIVE of your minutes " have your media THERE to receive Us AND to verify, that we have accomplished thousands of miles of travel in such a short amount of (your interpretation ) time." and then they DO it..... Follow that Up with announcing, " we will Now head for NY City USA,,,,and will BE there in Five minutes." .... such travel SHOULD convince most, that they are NO Joke... It is said that the planet Earth is unlike the other planets about which we Know,,,, In that "it looks like a colorful marble, in the vastness of space". IF we can look out into the universe to identify other stars,,and in some cases other planets around those stars..... certainly WE should be Highly visible to anyone Else,, out there,,, Looking at Us....Sticking out like the Colorful beacon that we ARE... It would be History CHANGING,,,, if those Viewing Us HAVE the knowledge and ability to DO light speed travel........ Some of the "crazy" evidences put forth by "ancient aliens" proponents,,, are Not as Off- the -wall as they might sound... IF early hominids had been visited ANYTIME in the past 100,000 years, or so.... our relative lack of Understanding it AS it ocurred, could easily have resulted in Legends, Myths, Bible Stories etc....being created as Our only way to interpret and express such visits... It's possible that "Gods who came from the skies" WAS the way that previous cultures grasped what was happening then....It could be fair to think that those visitors( or more likey THIER descendants ) STILL monitor us... either THAT,,, or they found life forms Waaay better than us elsewhere, have abandoned Us in favor of them,,,,and are leaving us to our own self induced anihilation........ imho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #19 December 5, 2012 QuoteI dunno, that same argument could have been made a couple hundred years ago regarding travel to the moon. I have a feeling you don't really grasp the distances involved and the speeds required to travel them in any time scale which makes sense for living beings.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #20 December 5, 2012 QuoteI have a feeling you don't really grasp the distances involved and the speeds required to travel them in any time scale which makes sense for living beings. Why would any alien beings be like us? They could have a much londer lifespan. They could be significantly smarter. They could have been around millions of years longer and have significantly more advanced technology Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #21 December 5, 2012 QuoteI think a whole bunch of religious leaders would be burning the midnight oil on re-writes! I fail to see how knowledge of life on another planet has anything to do with my spirituality...no re-write required. QuoteConsidering the vastness of the universe and the fact it happened here...we'd have to be pretty conceded to think it didn't happen elsewhere. Nonsense...no conceit required. Some people just understand the fragility of life and simply feel that that the odds are tremendously against it.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #22 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think we would try to kill them off. Well, I don't think you've thought that through. If you look at the history of the universe, we're pretty later comers to the game. Odds are any other civilization we could contact are at least as or, far more likely, far more advanced than we are. Now, look at the history of the Earth and what happens when a more advanced civilization meets a lesser advanced one. Almost without exception, the lesser advanced civilization gets slaughtered. We have no means whatsoever to travel to any other solar system, yet it's entirely possible (not likely, but possible) they have the means to travel to ours. How, precisely, do you intend on killing them? Do you truthfully think we're been visited already? -------------------------------------------------------- Can you explain how primitive humans created the pyramids, stonehenge, and other engineering feats without help? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #23 December 5, 2012 Quote They could have a much londer lifespan. They could be significantly smarter. They could have been around millions of years longer and have significantly more advanced technology do you really think they would need technology ? Why use machines when you can travel without scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #24 December 5, 2012 Quote -------------------------------------------------------- Can you explain how primitive humans created the pyramids, stonehenge, and other engineering feats without help? Yes. Careful, repeated astronomical observation (mulitple lifetimes worth) and basic "string and pin" surveying. Levers, rollers, inclined planes (you know, the basic machines) and unlimited human labor."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #25 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------- Can you explain how primitive humans created the pyramids, stonehenge, and other engineering feats without help? Yes. Careful, repeated astronomical observation (mulitple lifetimes worth) and basic "string and pin" surveying. Levers, rollers, inclined planes (you know, the basic machines) and unlimited human labor. Yes. That, and Levitation-Ray-Guns, of course.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
