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WTF?? A PROPERLY rigged and executed hand-held deployment ALWAYS has LESS bridle entanglement potential than going stowed.

***Having been on an AC with an asshat who wore a BASE rig with 3-rings and a cutaway handle on to a jumpship then sat with his back to the wall so no one could see he had no sport rig on till he jumped out at 600 agl, I really don't think a hot air pilot would really know what he is looking at if the rig looked like the rig asshat had on.*** newsflash - most baserigs have 3-rings these days and a simple tape loop cutaway handle hidden behind the MLW. some have the option of a skydiving style cutaway pillow Did you not notice the lack of reserve handle? or was he a real asshat and put a fake one on?

how about a trusty VX?? from this page cya

Hi I would like to know what gear configuration (container, canopy, PC size) and delay your observations are based on. Would you say the faster extraction to linestretch is due to a quicker inflation or more drag, or both? What size Toxic are you comparing to what size and type of normal PC? I have video of a jump with a 46"AV PC, using my Blackjack 260 in a Paratech Odyssey FX. I went stowed and did pretty much a drop-and-throw (it was from a lowish Tyrolean Traverse). From the ground video you can clearly see my PC gets the container open before it has enough drag to lift the 260 out of the packtray (it has dynamic corners, so there is nothing holding the canopy in other than the flaps and pins/loops). So for a higher extraction in that case the PC would not only have to inflate quicker, but have significantly more drag also. thanks! sam

***One that is packed more critically than a mainreserve, and is of a type much less prone to malfunction than a lot of most 9-cell reserve canopies experienced jumpers use? fixed it for you...

Correction, you need 1 Scott Bland and 8 of me. damn! the thought of 9 Scott Blands scared me already... but one Scott Bland with eight 111s orbiting madly for better camera angles does not a tight 9 way diamond make! sure would be entertaining to watch, though...

that model also makes an excellent ice scraper for when your exit point is covered in ice and I have also used it to break into my buddies car when his GF locked the keys in it while we were jumping an all-around excellent tool! might even work to cut lines also...

tempting.. The dates even work too. Hopefully I don't f*ck up the 9 way diamond...

Is that the newer version of the bridle attachment point, which has the loop made out of an extension of the apex-pull-down-line?

I think you mean: - become McFlonkey BASE # 1 might want to make that #66 on the list....

here's the updated list: 34. organise a legal event on some cool object 35. do some stupid s**t just because you feel like really wanna do something really crazy and stupid 36. jump some object with no nice landing under it, hoping to land just somewhere 37. try to get sponsored for a nice road trip and spam some big company with the base tales 38. f**k another basejumper 39. spend a night on the top of the cliff waiting for the good weather. Canopy should be used as a sleepingbag 40. Tell your wife you will remember the flowers and then end the phonecall because you hear the helicopter coming to pick you up off a wall after a 180 with a cliff strike... here's what I think: 41. Teach someone to pack and jump their packjob 42. pack for your friends on the same load 43. do a solo jump and don't ever tell anybody about it 44. do a floater off something other than a bridge 45. jump while it's snowing 46. jump when it's so dark you cannot see the ground, just go into half brakes and prepare to PLF when you think you're close…

I hear you are also offering free 'gound crew training' for your students' younger sisters...

by not putting that annoying triax logo over the whole damn thing! seriously, I was pissed when I bought Continuum II and was treated to full length logo, it really distracts from the footage

I did just that on one of my first jumps on a 90 Velo @ 2.1 lb/sq ft and found it required a lot of riser input to regain level flight - whereas I could achieve level flight with surprisingly little harness input. So I flew it around for a while with one brake unstowed and correcting with the harness- it was fun and quite easy.

The smallest Katana I can jump and be within the recommended Max exit weight is a 97. I have jumped this canopy and would not hesitate to get one next time I buy gear. I am 1 lb over the recommended max exit weight for an 84 Velo, but well within the max for a 90 Velo and would also happily jump either of those canopies if I had a dedicated swoop rig. Now, according to the RWS sizing chart on their website, using the same pack volume for a Stilleto and Katana and some interpolation where specific canopy sizes are missing: the smallest non-crossbraced main I can fit in any of the Microns or V3s that takes a 126R is a 107 Katana the smallest crossbraced main I can fit in any of the Microns or V3s that take a 126R is a 103 Velocity the smallest non-crossbraced main I can fit in any of the Microns or V3s that takes a 143R is a 120 Katana the smallest crossbraced main I can fit in any of the Microns or V3s that take a 143R is a 111 Velocity inversely, the biggest reserve I can have with a container that fits a 97 Katana is a PD113R and that is smaller than I would like. See my point now? RWS do not cater for a large difference in the sizes of reserves and mains. I know this is due to their thoughts on a 2 canopies out situation. There are many skydivers who believe the additional risk during a 2 out is not enough of a factor to commit to reserve that is smaller than you would like, partly due to how avoidable a 2 out is with good gear knowledge and maintenance. Add a cypres into the mix and consider the (admittedly very unlikely) case of being unconscious in freefall, having a cypres fire and still remain unconscious during reserve flight and landing. You will most likely be landing downwind with the brakes stowed, no flare and very likely into some kind of obstacle. Now what size reserve do you want??? A very damn BIG one. Now unless you want to fly a very damn BIG main (which is boring as all hell on skydives once you have a few jumps), you are SOL trying to get a container from RWS to cater to your choices. Now, I think the V3 and Micron are great sport rigs. The integrated Collins lanyard on their RSL is a brilliant and desirable safety feature. The Skyhook is also a brilliant and desirable safety feature (even though nothing can live up to the exaggerated claims made by some people about the Skyhook). But I will not jump a smaller reserve than I consider safe for me just to have a RWS container that fits my main of choice.

so you can have a small main canopy and a reasonably sized reserve

I know it's hard to do, but try to take a little step back from jumping. Then when you do some of the intensity will be back. I recently went a whole week between jumps instead of my more usual 1-3 days. I felt stupidly uncurrent while climbing, but some of that early jump excitement had come back already! also, if you have them and you haven't tried them, high-angle cranes have a pretty intense climb-out to the exit point...

sparky actually that part is not from the article, it is my interpretation of the data that I quoted from the article the quote from the article is in quote marks I have changed the formatting to make it clearer.

You are so out of line it’s not even funny anymore. Willing to argue math with people who obviously understand it better than you, but also willing to contradict empirical evidence gathered over man hundreds and thousands of test jumps just because you do not understand the physics involved. Here is a quote from the article that you linked: “Here the reference parachute (labeled "chute 1") is characterized by the parameter set characterizing a Sabre 150 used by a 205lbs jumper falling at 176 ft/sec at deployment time and at 125 ft/sec prior to slider descent (deployment altitude was 4000ft MSL). The figure shows that for most values of the scale factor, smaller parachutes actually open harder than the larger ones, a trend which is opposite to that of instant openings. For example, if all the dimensions of this particular chute are doubled, the resulting 600 ft2 parachute would feature a maximum deceleration that is 40% smaller than the original 150 ft2 canopy (with same jumper!).” Since they do not scale for suspended weight anywhere, we could say considering the case of a smaller parachute for the same weight jumper should have the same effect as a heavier jumper for the same size parachute. This will tell us that at a higher wingloading parachutes open harder (both higher peak force and higher stress on parachute). This is a known fact supported by both theory and empirical evidence. Extrapolating this effect will get you to the point where the parachute fails during opening due to overload. If you still refuse to believe the truth, do us all a favour and provide a reasonable physics theory on why or some empirical evidence to support your statement, rather than being so reactionary on this forum. Thank you. Maybe next time link an article that supports your statements, not those of the people you are contradicting…

skydivers are people too and therefore not always open minded skydivers are to basejumpers what whuffos are to skydivers where skydiving gets you is up to you, not the skydivers you know paragliding won't teach you about deployments like skydiving will (que some smartass paraglider with almost no skydives to tell us how much better base canopy pilots zero skydive paragliders are than thousand jump skydivers...) look around some other dropzones in your area and you will find skydivers that like basejumping and actually do it too cya

except my reply? what gives? From slotperfect: Clipping the original content is not an easy process, nor is it perfect. Here is your reply resurrected from the original thread . . .

because Coco thinks it's a big joke and he posted that video of what he described as a good jump of his... if this wire strike guy posts I'm sure he will have a different attitude to err is human to refuse to acknowledge that you erred and get all defensive and know-it-all is what is objectionable make sense?

Yuri That is not correct. What you have decided are two separate actions really is only one action. Read the manual. If you follow the procedure in it, it is one action, as you can unstow the toggle from the risers by continuing to pull on the ring. I know it works that way because I have done it more than once as practice at the TBPB. I don’t see that your point number 1 is a big concern either, or possibility for that matter. The pins take no load during opening other than deceleration and even on slider off 3.5 second delays with a Blackjack mine have stayed in every time so far and that has to be almost 50 jumps on them by now. Even if they did release during opening, the toggle stub will keep the control line captive until you unstow the brakes, after which one brakeline release should not be impossible to deal with. On the practice jumps I did with them and Apex risers, the brakelines stayed hung up on the risers for a few seconds anyway, long enough that I had time to take them and fly with the released brakelines wrapped around two fingers. Release during an object avoidance turn or flare would be way worse and I would say far less likely. I really like the cloth stub WLO toggles and I would love to know what information their recall is based on. I really like the original WLO toggles/risers combination too, but dislike the accelerated wear SYKO toggles place on your brakelines when jumped slider down, so I use my original WLO risers/toggles only for slider up jumps, changing risers and toggles for slider off. I would like to avoid the riser change though, so I got a set of the cloth stub WLO toggles to trial and slider up they work great, slider off they have been working great too, used with Apex, Paratech and Asylum risers. Try and get your fact straights before posting again, thanks! Cya Sam

well? looking for other people with an unnatural amount of nylon on their jumpsuits...

I said 'a lot of', not all, so I am not sure that still is a generalisation. I have no doubt that the laws of physics know and care nothing about someone's educational background. Now we are into 'nature vs. nurture' regarding the know-it-all attitude? I think highly intelligent people are by nature more prone to develop a know-it-all attitude. To add to this higher education by nurture seems prone to develop this personality trait in some individuals. I also think that by no means do all highly intelligent and highly educated people have a know-it-all attitude, but the ones that do are that much more likely to take up BASE than the ones that do not. better?