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The way I see it the bible's justification for laying out these moral guidelines is that they were handed down by some huge power that both created and controls everything. You can't make all these commandments without having serious clout behind them. The idea of the god figure creating and controlling everything (especially in the way's literally described in the bible) is becoming increasingly contradicted by scientific advances. If the justification for the moral rules is contradicted by science then the moral rules themselves are shown to be baseless and worthless. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Sorry, i'm not sure whether you're joking or not, do you really want to pay ski resort prices for a weekend at the dz? Or should they make the hotel money elsewhere, like by selling that big expensive turbine? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Back to the sillyness for this reply. Didn't the first bloke to see him have to be told who he was? Besides, a few hours of pain followed by a relaxing weekend away in the highest spot in heaven doesn't sound all that bad to me. Seriously though, look at the source material you've got. A action witnessed, told to someone, retold a few more times, translated, translated from the translation, lost, found, copied in triplicate etc. How exaggerated are most stories you hear in the bar after the fifth round of drinks have been sunk? edit: i wonder how many that witnessed the crucifiction remained jewish. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Ya might want to check in on the circumcision thread. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Thats kinda my point. How can anyone say that they know the will of god when so many other people fervently believe that they also know the will of god, feel it deep in their soul, but its telling them to do the opposite of what you are doing. Just like the kids on the israeli buses. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

There are a lot of people out there who are willing to believe that the tricks of any magician are actually real. There are even more people that think that the appearance of a new planet/ kuiper belt object will have serious influence on their lives (even though it's been there all along). All these people are willing to disregard what they have been taught about physics, chemistry, biology because they have faith in this other stuff. To me that has a legitimate place in a theological discussion and does bare comparison to your comment about jesus. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So, at various times during the 2000 year history of your faith either some or all of its followers/ practitioners have been mistaken. How do you know you're right? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Seriously, Blaine goes up to some guy on the street, throws a card through a window and the guy is amazed, doesn't have a clue how it's done. To the guy on the street he's just seen something that he can't explain by his scientific reality. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

But they thought it was. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So does david blaine. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

For a church going christian to admit that then they'd have to agree that the church is only human. What's the point in that? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The north pole's in India? Oh, and how the hell much is Rs 13 lakh? 13k rupee's? 13M rupee's? Actually how much is A rupee? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

spitfire, 6X, GUINNESS, newcastle brown, waggle dance (mmm, honey beer) and pretty much any I.P.A. So many beers, so little time..... ooh, just remembered, marstons pedigree, excellent, excellent beer. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

woohoo, i beat someone! i only got 14, probably couldn't get that many UK counties though. hell, I couldn't even name 14 counties Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Does this mean I can't hate the french any more? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

D on't E xpect L uggage T o A rrive Bastards Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yeah, most people use weight as mass and usually it works but once we start changing values of g the distinction should be made. In imperial pounds are force (pounds thrust in jet engines etc), mass should be expressed in slugs (i think). In S.I. units Kg is ALWAYS mass, Newtons are force, therefore Kg's under the influence of g become Newtons (y'know what I mean). Ok for comparing different size canopies to make a choice for what size you should be jumping but imagine trying to explain to someone that in a spiral turn its not only increased airspeed that affects the response of the canopy but also g values. If Kg was your unit of WL then you would have to tell them that their mass was increasing as they turned. Its not, their weight (force expressed in Newtons under S.I.) is what is changing. I know it doesn't really matter but if WL values are converted to S.I. one day it should be correct (N/m^2). I only brought it up in the first place to highlight confusion about different units used in the WL equation. I'll stop hijacking the forum now, sorry. ps, can't wait to jump wingsuits, have to keep moving the jump numbers up.... Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Surely wingloading is a measure of pressure, or force per unit area NOT mass per unit area. It may seem a petty definition but i think I saw an experienced canopy pilot refer to the fact that wingloading increases during hp turns, downplanes etc as g increases. This is only possible with measures of force like pounds, Newtons etc. Kg does not work like this. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Give me an example of the uses of a TARGET gun that places it along side water and fire in a list of things not to ban. That quote would only be relevant in a discussion of concealed carry licences etc. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Ok, I apologise for my sarcasm. Interesting view. Hypothetically speaking why would they prefer to risk criminal prosecution than face the risk of maybe having these air guns confiscated at a later date? It will be very difficult to go target shooting or whatever with an unlicenced gun with police on the lookout. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I shall clarify. Disarmed for the sake of sport shooting at a registered club, Yes. Disarmed for the sake of self defence, No. Like I said, the gun clubs were not able to enforce the laws of the time and people were bringing their pistols home. This was a naughty thing to do. Their pistols were taken As population and immigration increases more, better funded police are nessesary, this hasn't been happening, hence people get away with more crime, hence more crime is committed. No jail space means more criminals getting off lightly. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Wow. They must really like those air guns to have applied for all those licences to keep them. Oh wait, silly me, they didn't bother. They could have kept them, they just didn't care enough. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Likes BASE jumping A little bit. Maybe It's hard to tell sometimes Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Law abiding citizens have not been disarmed with this legislation, or indeed with any legislation in the last 10 years at least. Self defence has not been a legit reason to own guns in England for at least my lifetime. Yes, handguns have been completely outlawed since Dunblane, however before Dunblane those that had handguns for target shooting (no other lawful reason) were supposed to leave their handguns in the care of their shooting club, NOT take them home. The gun clubs proved incapable of enforcing the law and therefore handguns became completely illegal. Rifles and shotguns are for hunting, clay and target shooting and are to be locked up when kept in the home, have been for years. Rising crime levels in Engand are not due to tightened gun legislation because it has not affected our ability to defend ourselves. Try looking at the recruitment crisis in the police force and the complete lack of prison space, that might tell you something about why crime is rising. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

She must have been planning her defense for quite a while. Do you want to have an ideagasm?