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***That doesn’t discredit the Bible. The bad things that people do in the name of God doesn’t make what they do “of God.” Quote And the books people write in the name of god doesn't make those books "of God"? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The Nac Mac Feegle (also called Pictsies, the Wee Free Men, the Little Men and 'Person or Persons Unknown, Believed to Be Armed) I just got the new one Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The last hunt that went through my village most of the 'lasses' were about 40 years old, 5'6" and weighed 13 stone. Uuugh There might have been some attractive ones towards the back but by then I was already blinded. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

McCarthy. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So it honestly doesn't matter whether you lead a good life in the eyes of the lord, it only matters that you believe? So back to the subject, whats wrong with homosexuals then? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Exactly my point. You're now much happier about the thought of dying because you think there is something waiting for you afterwards. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

No thats just a side effect. No one who needs a rulebook to live a good life is going to go looking for that rulebook when they could just do bad things and not feel guilty. Much easier and much more satisfying. I reckon religions are the frameworks that have been invented to support notions of spirituality and the soul, which in turn sprang up from an inability to face fear of death. But thats a whole different thread. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

OK thats a good sentiment but I was talking about motivation from religious beliefs. I've lost count of the number of times in this thread that people have said "Acceptance of Jesus will save you" along side "God doesn't like you being gay so you shouldn't". It really should just be one or the other, either you can do what you want and be forgiven because you believe, or you can be judged on your actions and your beliefs wont matter. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I can't stand the Cathlic church, I'll openly admit that. To me their only redeeming feature is that they paid for some pretty nice architecture in their day. However as long as they keep wildly throwing their political weight around on any subject remotely involving ethics then their views on capital punishment/abortion/birth control etc. do concern and I'm interested in knowing what they are. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

(Not aimed at peacefuljeffery, just a general comment) Here's an interesting point of view I came across the other day about whether or not sin is even relevant in the eyes of the gods. From book two of the introduction to Plato's The Republic (written sometime between 399 and 347BC) Adeimantus is argueing the advantages of being an unjust man. So then, what motivation for being a good bloke (and what punishment for being gay) does remain when either god isn't there or, if he is, absolution can be gained simply by beleiving? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Maybe he wasn't gay, I've got a friend who's as camp as a field of pink tents but he's not gay. If he was gay though you think that it's better that he hides it? Would you still have liked him for the person he was if he'd been openly gay? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

To me that implies that god pushed them towards homosexuality and evil behaviour because they had denied him. Interested to hear your interpretation. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

That is a huge piece of very questionable interpretation. Especially being followed by "Their blood shall be upon them" Not jesus' blood, theirs. If spiritual death really is what's meant by that edition of the bible do you not think the translator or the editor could have made it just a tiny bit clearer? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

wouldn't it be awesome to jump a gipsy moth? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Any person that disaproves of interracial relationships is racist. However nothing here proves that Denzel is opposed to it, he did actually film the scenes right? Could be that he's just way too sensitive about his public image and doesn't want turn away his adoring fans. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Don't worry, I'll make allowances for you. I agree with what phillykev said and was replying to the part of your post that related to the gay/jewish rally question rather than the whole heaven/hell/forgiveness side of things. Now that I think about it my reply was slightly out of context but the point still stands. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

That could be read as suggesting that people of jewish background are biologically predisposed to follow the jewish religion yet homosexuals merely choose to be homosexual. Most people would reckon that to be the other way round. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So apart from the next round of elections how would they throw out the city council? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

repost. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

1000AD right, a whole millenium of christianity. You happen to live in the americas and have never heard of Jesus. Doesn't that make you a bit buggered? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I didn't read it like that. What I read was more "why do these people feel the need to protest?" Not suggesting that they had no right to protest. I could look at your post and decide that you wanted to stop anyone from bashing religious protestors by some internet speech controls. Someone could read my post and think that I wanted to do the same thing to you to stop you complaining about people who complain about people complaining. Its a line of logic that could just run and run. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Taxes. Same place all the other government money comes from. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Hans Blix might disagree with you there. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Isn't that like saying we don't like muggings but we'll buy the mugger a beer any day? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Together with his wife the guy's worth what, a billion give or take? Whats more wasteful, having that money sit in an offshore account or getting it back in circulation? Do you want to have an ideagasm?