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it's like farting: once done nothing will make it go back in your butt again The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

from reading your comments over the last decade I understand that you are trying to make a difference - thx for the effort in your corner of the world. but what to do with all the other I/E's who take a (in?)differerent stance???? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

for all those not following the other thread: i have been told that this vid was shown a skydive expo at the instructors meeting. attendants were told not to film it off the screen cause nobody wanted it to end up on youtube... and yes, tjhis video is a year old... my bottom line: the whole things starts with sloppy initial training of tandem "instructors" - the whole instrucor thing uspa implemented is pretty worthless if something like this is actually happening. better to have a handpicked tandem-master that a jerk like that with an "I"-rating next: even with the best initial training no I/E will change DZ-culture. If its cool and normal for longtime Joe Cool-"TI"s to board the plane with dangling harnesses and ride all the way up just to fasten everything up a minute before exit - well there your good intentions go out the door... and I know what I have been seeing the last ten years all over the place. And I am more than lucky to have the opposite attitude hammered into my head... someone mentioned the y-mod: as much as I disliked having to use it I see why it was put into place: to protect unknowing students/passengers from the average droguechucking imbecile do I have a suggestion how this could be solved? I know you won't like it: it's unannounced controls by the manufacturers of tandem gear if their rules are followed ( can anybody spell ramp-check?) - you are boarding the plane with a pax noit jumpready: There goes your rating... end of discussion, cause that is where the cash comes into the dz. The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

My dad made a jump at 85, and the TM peeled his hands off. But Dad told me later that he just didn't have his harness held exactly as the TM had said he wanted it (when you're old, you're not always all that flexible), he wasn't saying no. But it only took 2 tries to peel him off -- this was way past that, never mind all the other appalling stuff in the video. Yeah, I'm glad it's out there too. Wendy P. I am, too. Pardon me if I sound "traitorous" or piss some of you off, but a few of the comments in here could be construed to endorse a cover-up mentality. Bad idea on a couple levels, IMO. could you elaborate on this????? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

that was exactly my line from my first jump with a passenger/student to the last one. only two exemption: If we are flying in a 172/182/206 and we have the seat next to the door we have to go, otherwise the next pair can't leave. plus if you are outside the door of a 172/182/206 I won't get us in again and we'll go The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

I bet they will have the y-mod added by now. hopefully! The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

apart from the very, very, very scary freefall (holy fucking shit!): no proper suit for the passenger, no head protection, flimsy shoes...... but thats just for starters..... then: why would a TI want to make a standing exit with an elderly pax????? have her sit on your lap and roll out of the door - especially in a plane with a huge door like this why TF didn't the videoguy shove them back in or block the door? there was plenty of time to signal the TI a big fucking NO! at least that is what I would do as a videoperson.... no chance for lucky heroism in freefall as soon as she tried to back in he should have broken off the exit. as long as no limbs are outside you always have the opportunity and also the DUTY to stay in the plane should a pax make clear he doesn't want to jump.... and that lady clearly dind't want to go I am truly amazed that people pull off stunts like these in suehappy america.... edit to add: the ability to jump tandems is not about getting the drogue out, deploy the main and land safely. thats only the small part. the bigger and more important one (i guess thats the real basics) is about knowing when to make the right decisions with his individual passenger - be it on the ground, on the way to alti in the plane or in freefall. this TI clearly forgot the basics The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

better a big rig that can hold a proper sized reserve than running out of chances like in the last ws-related fatality (see incidents forum) The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

not directed at you, just as a general sum up so there is a system that - in the hypothetical situation of the closing loop breaking - leave with a potential horseshoe. did any such incident ever happen and was it documented in any way? no one has anwered this question so far then there is a system that uses a dual closing loop and another with a hesitator loop on the main, both preventing the initial questioned situation. as i am not familiar with the tandem racer, can anyone answer how they solve this scenario? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

my guess why the strong TNT still uses a 3ring drogue release is related to the KISS principle: Keep it simple sweetie (or keep it short & simple). its easy to inspect and more or less fool-proof and maintenance free. also from what I have seen you can have some substantial wear on the drogue attachement of the sigma inside the chimney... note: no. this is not brand wars, ok? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

I don't know if this one works in the english translation, but i'll give it a try: a blind and a deaf guy are sitting in the bar, having a beer. deaf guy says: I'm so sick of all the disabled jokes being told. blind guy: I see it the same way edit to add this one: The thing I love most about this hot weather is the short skirts and low cut tops.... although, they do make me look a bit gay. The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

austria has also only one license, but you can still apply for a FAI-one (A-D) if you want (or have) to afaik its the same in germany The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

hope dies last? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

What is the difference between a cop and a prostitute? none. both are walking the streets and both their parents are ashamed of them... An 85-year-old man was requested by his Doctor for a sperm count as part of his physical exam. The doctor gave the man a jar and said, 'Take this jar home and bring back a semen sample tomorrow.' The next day the 85-year-old man reappeared at the doctor's office and gave him the jar, which was as clean and empty as on the previous day. The doctor asked what happened and the man explained, 'Well, doc, it's like this--first I tried with my right hand, but nothing. Then I tried with my left hand, but still nothing. 'Then I asked my wife for help. She tried with her right hand, then with her left, still nothing. She tried with her mouth, first with the teeth in, then with her teeth out, still nothing. 'She even called up Arleen, the lady next door and she tried too, first with both hands, then an armpit, and she even tried squeezin' it between her knees, but still nothing.' The doctor was shocked! 'You asked your neighbor?' The old man replied, 'Yep, none of us could get the jar open.' The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

I remember that one being told with GW and the pope and now the joke: Blind guy walks into a bar. "Bartender would you like to hear a blonde joke?" The bartender replies, "I'm a blonde, the bouncer is a blonde, & the weight lifter next to you is a blonde. Now, do you really want to tell that joke." The guy thinks for a moment then replies, "Not if I'm going to have to explain it 3 times." The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

Aussie Humor "As I was watching the Commonwealth Games in India recently, I saw a sign on a cab that said: 'English-speaking taxi driver'. "I thought, what a bloody great idea! Why don't we have them in our country?" At The Construction Site: As two construction workers left the job site, one guy confided in the other, "Man, as soon as I get home, I'm gonna rip off my wife's underwear!" "What's the rush?" asked his buddy. "The elastic in the legs is rubbing me raw!" The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

This is the story of the poor dizzy blonde flying in a two-seater airplane with just the pilot. He has a heart attack and dies. She, frantic, calls out a May Day. "May Day! May Day! Help me! Help me! My pilot had a heart attack and is dead. And I don't know how to fly. Help me! Please help me!" She hears a voice over the radio saying: "This is Air Traffic Control and I have you loud and clear. I will talk you through this and get you back on the ground. I've had a lot of experience with this kind of problem. 'Now, just take a deep breath. Everything will be fine! Now give me your height and position." She says, "I'm 5'4" and I'm in the front seat." "O.K." says the voice on the radio.... "Repeat after me: Our Father. . Who art in Heaven. . . ..." The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

agreed. but it makes you wonder, if both jumpers are experienced and are not jumping for hire (fun jumping) are they really breaking any rules ? In any case, a person should have the blessing of the T I/E and the mfg. doesn't mak any ****ing difference in my book. if you look into all the known tandem fatalities you will find more than one case where "untrained funjumpers" got into deep shit and killed themselves and/or the pax. so no matter who, where, when, why: doing tandems without proper training by an I/E is the worst idea you can have. and if there is no Strong, PDF, Racer I/E around go for he other company - there's loads of them Where do you get your data? IIRC, one of the more disconcerting things about most tandem fatalities is that they involve highly experienced tandem masters more often than they do lower-time or outlaw tandem masters (the recent 10,000-jump+ Jim Fonnesbeck/passenger fatality = Exhibit A for the affirmative). The accuracy of your assertion aside, the bottom line is that the liability associated with tandem accidents, even in countries other than the sue-happy US of A, is such that any DZO or airplane operator who knowingly let's an outlaw tandem master jump with a paying non-jumper customer is too dumb to be flying airplanes or runnig a parachute center. A case in point was the Fumio Kubo fatality in Japan about 10 years ago. I forget the details but IIRC something in his paperwork wasn't quite right and that, along with some Japan-centric legal issues, resulted in the closure of the DZ, which had operated for years and was run by one of Japan's most, senior, respected and high-profile jumpers. 44 when i started my training my I/E hand me the complete list of all tandem fatalities - and to tell you the truth: at that time it was a difficult read because the summaries showed exactly whar can go wrong when you start the dicision tree at the wrong end.... and IIRC there are at least three fatalities with untrained/improperly trained/non-rated T/I's. I have th list somewhere on my harddrive, but since its in german it won't be of any use. I guess you have similar lists as well. again IIRC one of the fatalities involved a greek "Ti" to your point that the last one was a highly exerienced TI: This showed me once more that absolutly NOBODY is bullet-proof and ahead of the game all the time. and that's the exact reason I decided to quit to do tandems... Edit to add: I hope I have still (a) valid point(s) even if I don't do tandems any more

agreed. but it makes you wonder, if both jumpers are experienced and are not jumping for hire (fun jumping) are they really breaking any rules ? In any case, a person should have the blessing of the T I/E and the mfg. doesn't mak any fucking difference in my book. if you look into all the known tandem fatalities you will find more than one case where "untrained funjumpers" got into deep shit and killed themselves and/or the pax. so no matter who, where, when, why: doing tandems without proper training by an I/E is the worst idea you can have. and if there is no Strong, PDF, Racer I/E around go for he other company - there's loads of them The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

simple answer: NO! The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

I find it very strange that a person with the magnitude of ted strong seems to get lost in these forums so easily and that so few skydivers contribute to this thread The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

I do not know who packs in radfeld/tyrol - bit if you are that far in the west you might also try hohenems - which would be in vorarlberg and as far as bad toelz - what ever fits you best as for packing intervalls: if you jump under dutch rule it's half a year, in austria it's one year hope that helps

kallends tables and equations have been around for the last ten years - how come it took YOU so long to adopt the truth?????? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

nice, where did you find that one? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

nice vid