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If you get the DVD this is included in a documentary in the extras... "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

eye than q "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

So is it permanently down then? Anyone know anything? "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

I'm 100% with Skreamer here (ouch ouch ouch, must NEVER say that again) - try a different DZ. Ideally not in the UK. Edited to add: I voted option 4, mostly because they are very very different; BASE is not another form of skydiving, especially in the UK. But as you said, you have been lurking so you probably know that. "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Lots of good replies, but want to add this: How much is your life worth dude....? I think the whole cost thing boils down to this (other then the very pertinent market economy comment further up this thread): personal risk. With skydiving there are regulatory bodies that have utilised the past 50 years of skydiving experience (OK, perhaps a small pinch of salt here) to come with programmes of instruction and BSRs in order to make the jumping as safe as possible. The limits laid down in the BSRs (wind speed / opening altitude / etc / etc / etc) take away much of the responsibility for your safety from the instructor (note: I am comparing skydiving instruction with BASE instruction here - obviously skydiving instructors still carry a LOT of responsibility). When you go and do a BASE course, the instructors are pretty much responsible for you - other then the obvious "this is your choice and your decision" stuff of course - and take it on themselves to make all the right judgements about your safety and ability, usually based on no previous knowledge of your ability, in a very unforgiving environment. How much would you charge if someone asked you to be fully responsible for their safety? You are paying for their willingness to take you on, and their experience, not for Jet A and insurance premiums. I was in the same position as you this time last year; I had been thinking about BASE for a long time but still couldn't say if it was for me, so had to go and do at least one jump to find out. I paid my money, did my jump(s), did several more jumps, broke my leg (on a jump), will probably still do several more jumps; and I still can't tell you if BASE is for me. Question is not how much it costs, but do you want to try it or not? Ahhh..... 2AM on a school night, with my friend Stella "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Crutches.... Dressings to control bloodflow... Good (prescription) painkillers... A torch.... Emergency phone charge thingy (dunno what they are called, but they are small and light).... A cigarette and lighter "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Something wrong with the date on this posting, it should be reading about 5 yrs into the future..... "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

I think of the barrel roll in these circumstance (clearing airpspace above me, not just for fun) as a two-stage move: first I flip on my back, then back to my front. This does a couple of things: I find it helps with heading control as a result of making it two-stage; it also means that I have a moment to consciously take in what is going on above me... It doesn't mean I actually stop half way round, just break the move down (innit ) Drew's point about slowing down first is a good one, but would add that you don't want to be doing your barrel roll so close to deployment altitude that you are forced into going low if the airspace is not clear. "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Attached are some video grabs of a tandem.... she was happy (1j.jpg) until she went through the cloud (1n.jpg - she didn't see it coming) when she certainly got pretty freaked out - the footage is very amusing - but recovered well enough once she realised everything was OK (1p.jpg) Not entirely related, but I thought the photos might be entertaining... "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Yep "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Thank you "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

(dammit) I'm not even going but I will contribute to get her there..... "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Hmmmm... interesting point. I actually have a lot to say on this subject, but the Al Co Hoool affluence is por-ably not the best place to start from.... But my points are (to be revisited in the morning): Seems to me that mentoring was the traditional way into the sport. This had its downsides; a mate helps out a mate, no process regards suitability of the student or the mentor. But the new system which has appeared over the past few years (in order to combat the above) has to revert to very basic critera regards access requirements.... 150/200/250 skydives is very little to go on and gives you no idea of the person who is asking for the course (I have personal experience of this). I could write more here, but typing is taking so long I'll go directly to my point: I think that the people offering FJC's should only take people on the recommendation of BASE jumpers they know; that we way we get the best of both worlds. More tomorrow when I'm sober. And on work time "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Your bath-avoidance techniques are almost as interesting to us as your desparate need for deodorant ....been there, done that. "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

1. Whats your name? Ivan 2. How old are you? 31 3. Why did you decide to start jumping out of airplanes? Always wanted to, no idea why. Isn't it great when something turns out to be as good as you thought it would be?

Dude, you have WAAAAY to much time on your hands "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Anyone know what they were? "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Ah, obviously more testing required here then... let us know when you struggled in a blind panic to get the toggles off and only partially flared before piling in. "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

OK, first the small print....

All the time.... ....in fact, its taken three goes to send this one. "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Driving See you there "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Might pop down and join you for one - what time you going to be there? Ivan "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

Working on it bro, working on it. Slowly slowly catchy monkey "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

.......as much as I hate to say it, based on the content of this thread, I can't help myself....: Talking of rules, both site naming and personal attacks are here. They are not in the rules. As a caveat: I agree with everything said about this seemingly selfish behaviour, for totally selfish reasons; I want to jump this object one day. Please try and apply your motives for doing the (against the rules) things you do to all the other BASE jumpers out here.... Edited for purely poo grammer "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent

...I think you would probably have a much better chance of success if you produce a show on skydiving and sell it to existing channels. You could use all the above ideas, doing a different show each week. I doubt that you would get the finance to start a skydiving channel as I don't think the market is there. Not to be negative - I think a skydiving show could sell if someone were to do it.... "If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent