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The111 0
QuotePersonally I have trouble believing all this makes much difference and feel that there is little substitute for good body position at deployment.
I agree. I think a long bridle is the only mod which makes a difference.
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I have a bridle shorter than 2m, but a 32" F111 kill-line PC on it. I had no trouble with it.
Buried 0
QuoteQuotePersonally I have trouble believing all this makes much difference and feel that there is little substitute for good body position at deployment.
I agree. I think a long bridle is the only mod which makes a difference.
i've jumped 3 rigs (2 my own) with various wingsuits and have never modified anything nor any issues tho I did have a issue once (PC in tow/stuck in burble) early on with my icon.. the closing loop was probably a little tight, maybe a lazy pitch and the kill line was too long on the PC. all things have been fixed since.
back on track - i agree the longer bridle can help, but so can a larger (non bungee) PC (no too large tho!)
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The111 0
I am not sure of the exact numbers which define a bridle as "long enough." I know my Icon "standard" bridle is at least as long as my Vector "extended" bridle.
I just agree in theory with the idea that a wingsuit creates a much larger burble than a human body without one, so a longer bridle sounds logical.
The whole rotating bag thing is not that big of an issue in my mind. Even if your bag is rotating 90 degrees or more, that is an entirely different axis than the one it would need to spin on to cause line twists.
I just agree in theory with the idea that a wingsuit creates a much larger burble than a human body without one, so a longer bridle sounds logical.
The whole rotating bag thing is not that big of an issue in my mind. Even if your bag is rotating 90 degrees or more, that is an entirely different axis than the one it would need to spin on to cause line twists.
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do you mean too short ?Quotethe kill line was too long on the PC.
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QuoteThat's odd!!!
It's odd, indeed: the day I switched to packing grommet-to-BOC (~100 jumps ago), the occurrence of linetwists magically decreased from ~10% to zero and stayed at zero ever since.
Also, I had a linedump on one of the flights before the switch. As the bag rotates almost 180 degrees, "scrubbing" the container, it could drag the stowed lines through the excess lines and open the bag.
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Buried 0
Quotedo you mean too short ?Quotethe kill line was too long on the PC.
no, it was too long. it's not really related, but it was something that noticed after i had this little problem. I jerry rigged it for a week then I had my rigger shorten it 1" and was perfect.
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helxen 0
Jumping an old racer with [email protected] inside, standard bridle, 28" or 26" non-collapsible PC, smooth openings either from full flights or with wings collapsed. Last one ended up with a cutaway, but that was definite packjob problem, so that doesnt count :D
Quote28" or 26" non-collapsible PC
Eh. non-collapsible ??? I would not use that on that WL.
helxen 0
I know, it is already a subject to replace on next rig maintenance, as well as longer bridle. Not sure if i should do something with corners, since that racer is already fairly loose :)
QuoteI know, it is already a subject to replace on next rig maintenance, as well as longer bridle.
If you've already decided to do that, I'd suggest you contact Jumpshack and just ask them for the Birdman D-bag set up. You will get a D bag made for Wingsuiting, the longer bridle and a collapsible PC all in one package.
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helxen 0
Hehe, it would be probably a good idea, but not on for 12 year old racer elite :) It is my first rig and I dont think I'm going invest much into it. On the other side, there's in plans to order a new one, which will include that option, of course.
Is the longer bridle really important? Does it help if you deploy from full flight?
QuoteIs the longer bridle really important?
I have rigs with and without MODs on them. I have found that those with longer bridles have cleaner deployments than the rigs that have standard bridles as the PC doesn't get caught in the burble. Thats not to say that you cannot use a rig in the standard configuration sucessfully, many do not have mods and have no issues. I look at it this way. If I can increase the chances of having a clean,consistent,worry free openings jump after jump then the mods are worth it.
Opening in full flight is a personal preference. I see no reason to open in full flight outside of the BASE environment. There have been several instances where people wingsuiting(skydiving) have opened in full flight and nearly fallen back through their own lines from the snatch force. It can also be very hard on the body depending on how your canopy opens.
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saly 0
At least go the longer bridle, it less than the reserve pack job and case of beer for the packer.
I learned the hard way that this is a gear dependent discipline more so than any other. Have a rig dedicated to the discipline if you intend doing it often.
I use a racer (16 yrs old!) with mods for wingsuiting. What I like best is that the main container falls away the moment the pin is pulled, but as a rigger it distresses me that there is no "staging" at all and if I were unstable the bag could/would fall out before it should!
Be careful out there!
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I learned the hard way that this is a gear dependent discipline more so than any other. Have a rig dedicated to the discipline if you intend doing it often.
I use a racer (16 yrs old!) with mods for wingsuiting. What I like best is that the main container falls away the moment the pin is pulled, but as a rigger it distresses me that there is no "staging" at all and if I were unstable the bag could/would fall out before it should!
Be careful out there!
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