mccordia 73 #1 May 20, 2005 A few posts about this subject have been made here before, but they we're already dating back 2 to 3 years....so I thought I'd ask again.. What Altitude do you and/or your friends pull on wingsuit dives? (not counting base) Most people I know (who have 100+ wingsuit dives) open at a 'normal' 3000 ft, and concider it okay/normal. And looking back at the dives made at the Hercules Boogie 2004, we werent even allowed to open higher then 3000 ft, and everyone was okay with that....and pulling at that altitude I still saw people doing canopy flyby's When you look at base, you actualy sometimes see people doing lower pulls at 'terminal' then would not be possible/survivable without a wingsuit... There are a lot of pro's and cons for pulling at 'normal' altitude in a wingsuit-skydive.. pro: - We have a slower fallrate - when opening in full flight we burn up less altitude due to the forward speed (I notice a big difference compared to normal freefall openings on my spectre) - a reserve procedure is exactly the same as normal (no need to cut wings first, you can reach your handles) cons: - you have the suit to deal with, and it may restrict you in some ways (kicking out a twist), a big deal especialy on smaller canopies. - wearing the suit affects some people, in terms of adding a lot of stress/fear to the jump. Especialy true on the first dozen or more jumps. What Altitude do you usualy pull...? And if you pull high(er)...what's the reason? If you are still in your first few jumps...would you open 'lower' if you have a few jumps more..? And at what altitude do you see people around you open? And maybe an added question...if you are going to a Boogie, and pulling aboven 3000 ft is not allowed (like the Herc Boogie 04) would you stay on the ground?JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #2 May 20, 2005 GTI 2000' V-1 from full altitude, probably pull around 3500'-3000', the ONLY reason is I'm such a fat bastard that my arms are really fatigued by that altitude, and I want to get a strong pull. However, if I'm exiting with the V-1 from 5-6000' or lower, I'll fly it down to 2000'. ANY NEW SUIT, I'm opening at 5000' until I get the pull dialed in...and YES ROBI, I am working on a much faster pull Good topic, thanks Blair DISCLAIMER: This is one of those "do as I say, not as I do" things, especially for the student fliers. I DO NOT recommend ANYONE opening at 2000' with a wingsuit. YMMV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCARYPERRY 0 #3 May 20, 2005 take it the GOOD AIR!!!!!!not for newbies,but with specific gear and training???Only he can be happy,who can make his the present hour,for today he has lived Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outrager 6 #4 May 20, 2005 QuoteWhat Altitude do you and/or your friends pull on wingsuit dives? (not counting base) Not counting BASE: My comfort level varies a lot, from 1500' to 4500' - depending on how current i am and what gear is on my back. 3k for a relaxed relatively current flight with Stiletto as a main, 2k if doing a fly-by or passing through a busy airspace. I have recently added Skyhook to my Vector and feel much better down low... but wouldn't abuse it too much, considering much higher chances of a cutaway due to lack of altitude to deal with simple problems. bsbd! Yuri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #5 May 20, 2005 3000-4000 ft. I'll go lower if the jump makes it safer to be low (i.e. more folks around), but on solos, where I'm almost always last out, I'll dump good and high. This may be because I'm just a big chicken--my first ever wingsuit jump was also my first ever reserve ride.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #6 May 20, 2005 3-4K due to the canopy I have on my WS. If I was just allowed to jump it with my BASE rig...Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #7 May 20, 2005 3.5k-4k because I was getting linetwists (just a few, not serious) somewhat frequently. I don't think I've had them in 50 jumps or so but I still pull above 3.5k usually. Even on normal skydives I never go lower than 3k.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #8 May 20, 2005 I usually pull between 3-4k. In a wingsuit it is closer to 4k. I do not mind pulling lower if the situation demands(hop-pops, balloon jumps, boogies) but no point pulling at 2.5K everytime. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badenhop 0 #9 May 20, 2005 Hello, Try take it a little lower! With a WS the ground does not even start to come at you until 2.5K. #1. I try to pull at an altitude that keeps the DZO happy. #2. I usually pull at an altitude that keeps me happy. Sometimes #1 and #2 differ a bit. Nuff said.================================== I've got all I need, Jesus and gravity. Dolly Parton http://www.AveryBadenhop.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 1 #10 May 20, 2005 5k.Still a newbie with 12 jumps.Last one got a hand full of wing.Worked thru that and dumped non symmetrically,got a riser across the neck and saw a few stars.Keeping it high for a while.Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 56 #11 May 20, 2005 QuoteThis may be because I'm just a big chicken--my first ever wingsuit jump was also my first ever reserve ride. Please tell us about it ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #12 May 21, 2005 dude, two nights ago i took it "to the good air" and i dont want to ever go there again. 1st ws jump base, brento, decided to "stick with what i know (boc deployment) and fumbled for the hackey until i was somewhat lower than i wanted to be. lets just say low enough....... to see birds in trees etc....... now im off for a second go after lots of advice and a change to the leg pouch..... should be jumpin in about two hours from now. fumbled pulls without silver handles are not fun. ws base definatly IS !!!!!! d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #13 May 21, 2005 Iwas taught by SM1 to pull no lower than around 4k. I usually start my pull sequence about 4.5k. I have had a high speed spinning mal and can say you most likely will need that extra altitude (but maybe its just me) But then again, what are YOU comfortable with, it is your choice. http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1221Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonM 0 #14 May 23, 2005 Unless I am jumping a new suit, I pull at or around 3k. The couple of times that I have had some 'excitement' on opening (linetwist, toggle release, brief PC in tow), I have been very happy to have the extra altitude. Simon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddog 0 #15 May 23, 2005 i usually open around 2000 feet depends on what suit i have on and where iam at in regards to spotDeal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #16 May 23, 2005 I pull in accordance with where I am relative to the LZ. So, if I'm close (and I try to plan the route so that I'm never far away), then I'll pull 2,500 - 3,000 ft. If I'm further away (boogie restrictions, or just allowing someone else to take care of the navigation ) then I'll pull higher. I don't make special allowances now because I'm in the wingsuit. However, I most certainly did when I was starting out in the discipline, and I would recommend everyone to pull a little higher than they are accustomed to, until they become comfortable.-- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
