DB Cooper

[georger 197]

KC was never a suspect and Duane Weber was and still it.
Evidently they DID know about Spokane - but why didn't they make that PUBLIC with the other things Carr introduced on this thread. NOW, that sound a little FISHY! Right!

Blevins-Porteous always knew that Jo.

They hedged their bet 50:50. Might make some
money for retirement, but for Blevins it was a way
to get his foot in the door as an 'established Cooper
expert'! Blev wants to be invited to the party!
He has nothing better to do, plus its personally
rewarding for him. Blev has found his "calling" with
a strong social media presence. Opportunities will
follow - how better to get LOST on a dime! He is also
Judgement proof. Coopercare.

[georger 197]

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this is interesting.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEbugKdHbjY

"anybody who planned it out that well"


thanks

[mrshutter45 21]

was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[Robert99 37]

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Saw another video next door to the Columbian article and took a few screenshots, tried to enhance them a bit. It's the chute. Maybe some experienced folks can tell more about the nature of it.

Frankly, those shroud lines look as if they have a larger diameter than personnel parachute shroud lines.

Robert99

[georger 197]

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Saw another video next door to the Columbian article and took a few screenshots, tried to enhance them a bit. It's the chute. Maybe some experienced folks can tell more about the nature of it.

Frankly, those shroud lines look as if they have a larger diameter than personnel parachute shroud lines.

Robert99

noticed that too - cargo chute? those are thick lines...
whats the history of forest fires (1950s- 60s?) in this area?

[georger 197]

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

[georger 197]

Who knows? Maybe it's a cargo chute, after all. Too bad the FBI just didn't say 'It's a cargo chute'. Would have made things much easier for everyone investigating the case, instead of going with Cossey's 'It's silk' story. I have to admit that thing looks pretty large, and the lines thick. I wonder if it would even FIT into an NB-6 container.

Funny!

"I spoke with Coss shortly after the announcement,
and he told me that the parachute found in Amboy
was not from Flight 305 as it was too large at 34-feet
in diameter, and that it was a cargo chute. Further, he
said that the canopy was made with silk and not the
nylon which comprised Cooper’s canopy. He also said
it was a WWII vintage parachute."

http://themountainnewswa.net/2012/05/14/the-hunt-for-db-cooper-looking-for-the-amboy-chute/

The FBI said 'silk' just for you!

Everything is about 'you'.

This song is about 'you'.

I gave out the coords to a silk cargo chute!



Care to ask where I got them?



Would you care to place bets on the Janet Fable ?



Good nite Irene -

[georger 197]

You'll excuse me if I'd rather get that confimation from the FBI themselves...

You will get their reply when hell freezes over!

Keep waiting ...

This song is about you!

[mrshutter45 21]

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

If you watch it in slow mo, he moved the pen further up. I thought it
was possible to be a cargo drop for firefighters possibly during a
training exercise? The guy in the espresso/ Ice Creme seems to be
pointing in the direction of Ariel. (see photo)

The lines do appear to be larger than a personal chute as Robert99 said.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[georger 197]

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

If you watch it in slow mo, he moved the pen further up. I thought it
was possible to be a cargo drop for firefighters possibly during a
training exercise? The guy in the espresso/ Ice Creme seems to be
pointing in the direction of Ariel. (see photo)

The lines do appear to be larger than a personal chute as Robert99 said.

Something tells me we are still not done with the
Amboy chute. Maybe it belonged to Lindberg ?

[mrshutter45 21]

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

If you watch it in slow mo, he moved the pen further up. I thought it
was possible to be a cargo drop for firefighters possibly during a
training exercise? The guy in the espresso/ Ice Creme seems to be
pointing in the direction of Ariel. (see photo)

The lines do appear to be larger than a personal chute as Robert99 said.

Something tells me we are still not done with the
Amboy chute. Maybe it belonged to Lindberg ?

or maybe Earhart's

I think it's a cargo chute if you ask me. but, you never know???

here is another short vid....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wL8Y2S-Ko

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

If you watch it in slow mo, he moved the pen further up. I thought it
was possible to be a cargo drop for firefighters possibly during a
training exercise? The guy in the espresso/ Ice Creme seems to be
pointing in the direction of Ariel. (see photo)

The lines do appear to be larger than a personal chute as Robert99 said.

Something tells me we are still not done with the
Amboy chute. Maybe it belonged to Lindberg ?

or maybe Earhart's

I think it's a cargo chute if you ask me. but, you never know???

here is another short vid....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wL8Y2S-Ko

Actually, as I am sure Jo will confirm, Duane Weber planted the Amboy chute as a deliberate ruse during the time he was leading Lewis and Clark down the Columbia River to the Pacific Ocean.

While Lewis and Clark were investigating Vancouver Lake, Duane and an Indian maiden disappeared for several days during which they visited the Amboy area and concealed the chute there with full knowledge that it would be discovered at a time that would help confuse the FBI during their search for Duane (aka Dan Cooper).

In appreciation for her cooperation, Duane gave the maiden several trinkets and sea shells to cover her next day's living expenses.

This scenario is so obvious that I am surprised Jo hasn't pointed it out before.

Robert99

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Hmmmm, Im looking at arrest records for Lewis & Clark and noticed, they left a few out!!
you may be onto something here

Blevins:

"FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said it's "definitely possible" Walling's chute is the one they have, but the bureau does not plan to further investigate it."

I'm not finding anywhere the FBI confirmed the chute was Walling's

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[MeyerLouie 5]

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Meyer Louie on his search for historical aerial maps:

1) Maybe THIS SITE.

2) Use form attached in PDF below. Or you can fill it out onsite through the link and just print it up when you are done.

Best way to deal with these guys is by sending them a map with a specific area marked on the map that you want the aerials to.

You could try the USGS's Earth Explorer perhaps.

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I'll give it a try, thanks. MeyerLouie

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One report says the chute was found BETWEEN Amboy and Ariel, not on the east side of Amboy. If this were true, it would put the chute closer to the flight path. As it is now, according to the alleged GPS/Google Map info the chute was approximately four miles off the flight path. And I admit I don't know if a drift of four miles from a 9,600 foot jump is possible, even if the upper level winds were westerly.

MeyerLouie

As a matter of fact, four miles is 'right on the nut'
in terms of several people's prior calculations, done
here in the Stone Age. I smiled when I saw Shutters
figure, for that reason.

Sluggo, Snow, Guru, myself, and others tried their
hands at calculating drift scenarios, dead
drop-terminal velocity, etc etc. It was like being back
in physics 101 - fun! These skydivers do know their
stuff! This period people doing calculations and
discussion went on for some time, was very
productive, and '4 miles' was one person's prediction
... so its not out of reason based on parameters
previously introduced and discussed.

Guru, make any corrections to my memory of this you
need to -

BTW, you can also refer to the original NWA map
(what I call the probability drop map) to get their
original estimates on this matter. (Sluggo hates it
when I used that term for the NWA map -
Let me attach that here...

all of this maps are available at Sluggo's cafe.
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Good information, Georger. I didn't write the note above, eventhough my name has been attached to it -- you know how notes get fragmented and deleted around here.

MeyerLouie

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Meyer, did you and Bruce talk with this guy?

http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2008/mar/26/12341/

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I believe I remember seeing him, because he was at the store when I dropped in to buy a snack, but I did not talk to him. I will remember to do so next time. Thanks.

MeyerLouie

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Saw another video next door to the Columbian article and took a few screenshots, tried to enhance them a bit. It's the chute. Maybe some experienced folks can tell more about the nature of it.

Frankly, those shroud lines look as if they have a larger diameter than personnel parachute shroud lines.

Robert99

Who knows? Maybe it's a cargo chute, after all. Too bad the FBI just didn't say 'It's a cargo chute'. Would have made things much easier for everyone investigating the case, instead of going with Cossey's 'It's silk' story. I have to admit that thing looks pretty large, and the lines thick. I wonder if it would even FIT into an NB-6 container.

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'Blevins-Porteous always knew that Jo.

They hedged their bet 50:50. Might make some
money for retirement, but for Blevins it was a way
to get his foot in the door as an 'established Cooper
expert'! Blev wants to be invited to the party!
He has nothing better to do, plus its personally
rewarding for him. Blev has found his "calling" with
a strong social media presence. Opportunities will
follow - how better to get LOST on a dime! He is also
Judgement proof. Coopercare....'

Ever see me claim to be a 'Cooper Expert'?

How do YOU know my financial situation? Answer: You don't. I'm a good saver. And for other reasons that are none of your business, I don't worry about what I will live on after retirement.

Nobody 'hedged' anything. I did interviews, Porteous checked out people. We did the book. Big deal.

Fact: Everyone knew making any real money on Cooper was never going to happen. And I've already pointed out that I turned down thousands of dollars for television appearances. If I were really in it 'for the money,' I would have snatched up those offered checks and ran to the bank.

You have serious personal issues in my opinion. You lied about Geoff Gray, you've made fun of how I make a living, trashed my wonderful Gayla, (pic attached as a reminder) and pulled out all the stops...including five posts in a row yesterday where you mostly engaged in baiting. You're obsessed. Give it up. Get help. Your hatred is making you a wreck. (*laughs*)

I actually feel sorry for you sometimes. Must be tough being YOU. Seriously.

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Blevins, you're doing well, you don't get all riled up so much anymore...the counseling must be working.

MeyerLouie

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Meyer, did you and Bruce talk with this guy?

http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2008/mar/26/12341/

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I believe I remember seeing him, because he was at the store when I dropped in to buy a snack, but I did not talk to him. I will remember to do so next time. Thanks.

MeyerLouie

If you are going to follow up on this, try these peeps

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[georger 197]

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Hmmmm, Im looking at arrest records for Lewis & Clark and noticed, they left a few out!!
you may be onto something here

Blevins:

"FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said it's "definitely possible" Walling's chute is the one they have, but the bureau does not plan to further investigate it."

I'm not finding anywhere the FBI confirmed the chute was Walling's

It was several historians who brought Walling up ...
not the FBI. The original articles made that pretty clear (named the historians).

I guess the FBI doesn't respond to demands fir3d at it from ... the Drop Zone and the News Vine

[georger 197]

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Blevins, you're doing well, you don't get all riled up so much anymore...the counseling must be working.

MeyerLouie

Hey! Tell that counselor I was not born and raised in
the State of Washington -

[georger 197]

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Meyer, did you and Bruce talk with this guy?

http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2008/mar/26/12341/

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I believe I remember seeing him, because he was at the store when I dropped in to buy a snack, but I did not talk to him. I will remember to do so next time. Thanks.

MeyerLouie

If you are going to follow up on this, try these peeps

priceless! I had better stop! Thats 3 posts in a row -
limit... back to the salt mine.

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was wondering about the area they were showing, also noticed the map was upside down?
I take that back, map is right....

Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

This was the area Sluggo and I discussed and when I went to WA it was right. Sluggo was going by my description and what I was saying about it. Until I was in WA in 2010 - I had only my memory in 1979 and the things Duane said. Because Sluggo talked about this area and when I went NORTH of the area I thought we wre in - is when the chimes started to rings. What I have been telling U guys since I came home from that 2010 trip.

TIME AND SPACE - MY MIND HAD NOT ALLOTED FOR THIS IN THE MEMORY BANKS. I remembered what Duane told me and the images in my mind from 1979.

From the 2010 trip until I can get back out there - Since I didn't know from which angle he entered if we were above the site - Sluggo is point at or above it. I was looking for the tower that was there in 1971 and not there in 1979. Duane was turning me around - probably on purpose. Sluggo's pen point is the LOW point and there is a tower not too far from there. Also above that is another area that would have had a similiar view with yet another tower - probably signal towers. The tower on the site was an observation tower and not be be confused with what I believe to be 2 signal towers.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Yellow X is placed where his pen is pointing -
just below Heisson, an area Sluggo was interested in ...

If you watch it in slow motion, he moved the pen further up. I thought it was possible to be a cargo drop for firefighters possibly during a
training exercise?

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After battling several serious medical conditions I am pleased to announce the "Return of Mr.Green". Good morning ya'all

Welcome back Mr Green, it's been a couple of years hasnt it?

Hope you are winning the medical battle.

377

Thanks 377...Not really winning, but holding court for the time being.

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Carr made an issue of publishing the criminal record [of Duane] here in this thread (how ethical was that) when I had requested it for yr?

Jo,

Adult criminal convictions and the resulting sentences are public records.

It may not have been polite, but how was it unethical?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.