mrshutter45 21 #31476 March 31, 2012 Quote Quote when did you get your draft notice in the mail? should be easy for you given the fact that you remember so well Spring of 68 probably mid March 68. I drove a light blue 54 Ford 2dr to 2nd St. and 3rd Ave. I parked on the west side of the street (3rd) facing south, about in the middle of the block and walked up a long flight of cement stairs to the building. Nobody else around until I got to the right room. I presented my letter from Doctor Thayer of Fairmont, MN. and went right to the front of the procession to be examined by a Doctor who told me to leave. Two FBI Agents then made a call on Doctor Thayer in person. Thayer called me to advise that he had been given a stern warning and to apologize for causing me any trouble. I told him it was all taken care of, which totally baffled him. And THAT is the truth about THAT. This was your Induction process? Mid march of 68 at 2nd st and 3rd ave, correct?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31477 March 31, 2012 That is correct, Your Honor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31478 March 31, 2012 QuoteThat is correct, Your Honor. could you please tell the court the name of the office in which Robert Alan Knoss entered at 2nd st and 3rd ave. Objection is over ruled!"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31479 March 31, 2012 Federal Building, Induction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31480 March 31, 2012 QuoteFederal Building, Induction. please answer the courts question, along with the reason the FBI would be at a military office you are about to give the name of"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31481 March 31, 2012 QuoteFederal Building, Induction. If the court checks this area in question back in 1968 of March, the court will find the said office....correct?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31482 March 31, 2012 QuoteQuoteFederal Building, Induction. please answer the courts question, along with the reason the FBI would be at a military office you are about to give the name of What you talkin' 'bout, Willis? What FBI? Thayer was in Fairmont, the induction office was in Minneapolis. The FBI went from Minneapolis to Fairmont. I lived in BLOOMINGTON, Mn. where Weber practiced and trained. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31483 March 31, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Federal Building, Induction. please answer the courts question, along with the reason the FBI would be at a military office you are about to give the name of What you talkin' 'bout, Willis? What FBI? Thayer was in Fairmont, the induction office was in Minneapolis. The FBI went from Minneapolis to Fairmont. I lived in BLOOMINGTON, Mn. where Weber practiced and trained. then please tell the name of the building at 2nd and 3rd ave, and why the FBI was involved with the military with a simple case of deception with getting drafted? Federal building what? lots of Federal builings, but they have names ya know don't get mad, get glad "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31484 March 31, 2012 QuoteQuoteFederal Building, Induction. If the court checks this area in question back in 1968 of March, the court will find the said office....correct? One giant frickin' Washington DC type building that covers the entire block. Massive looking Greek architecture with columns and massive stairs. Not exactly an office per se. I think it is still there, too big to move on it's own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31485 March 31, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Federal Building, Induction. If the court checks this area in question back in 1968 of March, the court will find the said office....correct? One giant frickin' Washington DC type building that covers the entire block. Massive looking Greek architecture with columns and massive stairs. Not exactly an office per se. I think it is still there, too big to move on it's own. you can remember the car, the street the dates, but not the name? what city was this? please excuse my forgetfulness "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31486 March 31, 2012 "then please tell the name of the building at 2nd and 3rd ave, and why the FBI was involved with the military with a simple case of deception with getting drafted? Federal building what? lots of Federal builings, but they have names ya know don't get mad, get glad" It is called, "The Frickin' Federal Building" as oposed to the Frickin' Post Office or the Frickin' Federal Reserve Bank. I did not direct the Frickin' FBI, ever. You'd have to ask the Frickin' Selective Service how and why the FBI was directed to be involved. I can only report what I know to be the facts, Your Honor. I'm a Zip-Loc guy. (:#)^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #31487 March 31, 2012 Quote "then please tell the name of the building at 2nd and 3rd ave, and why the FBI was involved with the military with a simple case of deception with getting drafted? Federal building what? lots of Federal builings, but they have names ya know don't get mad, get glad" It is called, "The Frickin' Federal Building" as oposed to the Frickin' Post Office or the Frickin' Federal Reserve Bank. I did not direct the Frickin' FBI, ever. You'd have to ask the Frickin' Selective Service how and why the FBI was directed to be involved. I can only report what I know to be the facts, Your Honor. I'm a Zip-Loc guy. (:#)^ Ok zippy, I'll be back later, gotta go to work, court will start again approx, 11:30 PM...... bye Zippy be sure to have all Availible information required "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31488 March 31, 2012 "be sure to have all Available information required" What? You want me to cheat? Read Blevin's book? Pull the FBI files out from betwix my sphincter? I'm clay in your hands, Shutterman! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #31489 March 31, 2012 Quote Can we take people out to the DZ and throw them from a plane???? Hi AJ I only stop by this thread a couple of times/yrPlease don't hurt it. It's like a fine wine, Improving with ageOne Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #31490 March 31, 2012 Quote Quote Can we take people out to the DZ and throw them from a plane???? Hi AJ I only stop by this thread a couple of times/yrPlease don't hurt it. It's like a fine wine, Improving with age More like Milk... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailshaw 0 #31491 March 31, 2012 377 You say: "Maybe Sailshaw can chime in. Sailboats, especially racing types, are always on the cutting edge for using exotic materials if they save weight and are strong." Yes we did use titanium in our racing sailboats and as I have said before, I used some on my boat that I found in the scrap tub skids in the Boeing 9-101 bldg. when the SST (Super Sonic Transport) was in work in the late 1960's. I believe DB worked in the same building above the materials research lab that filled the titanium (and aluminum) waste tub skids. The small curly cue of aluminum (like Tome Kaye found) was the product of a machining process. I think it makes DB most likely a Boeing worker at the time and subject to the SST lay-off (another part of DB's Grudge). Bob Sailshaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31492 March 31, 2012 "I mean...he was careful to retrieve the notes, for example, but didn't seem to care about the tie." WHOA!!!! THAT'S WRONG!!!! Duane did not retrieve the notes!! Several were put in a briefcase in the cockpit, stew's notes kept by the stew. One note was given to a reporter in California. You probably have seen the stew's notes, and the first note resides with the kingpin, written by McCoy's hand for Duane. The hijacker that retrieved the notes was McCoy months later. Good thing you DON"T try to write the truth, because you really stink at that, too. Go Fish! "(another part of DB's Grudge)..." He hag no grudge, he was just told to say that as a point of misdirection, so someone could suggest something like the above!!! CREW to the bottom of his black little heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 198 #31493 March 31, 2012 Quote377 You say: "Maybe Sailshaw can chime in. Sailboats, especially racing types, are always on the cutting edge for using exotic materials if they save weight and are strong." Yes we did use titanium in our racing sailboats and as I have said before, I used some on my boat that I found in the scrap tub skids in the Boeing 9-101 bldg. when the SST (Super Sonic Transport) was in work in the late 1960's. I believe DB worked in the same building above the materials research lab that filled the titanium (and aluminum) waste tub skids. The small curly cue of aluminum (like Tome Kaye found) was the product of a machining process. I think it makes DB most likely a Boeing worker at the time and subject to the SST lay-off (another part of DB's Grudge). Bob Sailshaw please keep in mind the scale of those particles, in Tom's photos. Compare their relative sizes: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/particle-sizes-d_934.html Flour dust, some bacteria and virii are larger in some cases. Tom calls the Al piece a "spiral" and a "chip". To me it is a shaving, from a process with some tool. A drill? Nothing wierd about that in the context of an aircraft-machine. One has to wonder what ventilator system aboard 305 would have yielded? Say stuck to the ventilator filters, if there were filters? Each row of seats sits directly under or near a ventilator ports? These particles may form a cluster with a common delivery source-mechanism. Maintenance activity? Food service worker who surfed the Tides of the Columbia along Tena Bar, waving to the Fazio's and the Ingrams on vacation? Delivering his package of moire & pamadjeon - Are these finshed metals, raw materials, and what is this thing that looks like it was once a molten dropped moon crater-thingie eaten out by acid with crystals of some kind inside? Do you find these things in foundaries, in tin shops, or work areas in maintenance yards? Is that what Coca-Cola does to a Carnagie-Melon robot's gut? I will forever be grateful that Blevins came along, if only to introduce the world "Thingie" into our technical vocabularly, on ocassions such as this - The springie has sprung - boing boing boing boing... which catches the essence of titanium minds in motion. The aluminun drill shaving, if thats what it is, is the largest particle by far at a whopping 1.6mm or 1600 microns. Some guy with a hand tool and a cigar in his mouth may have made that, before Cooper comes along later to sip bourbon and smoke nicotin under the palm tree of his handy work - oh well - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31494 March 31, 2012 "please keep in mind the scale of those particles, in Tom's photos. Compare their relative sizes" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 198 #31495 March 31, 2012 Quote Georger says in part: Quote 'I will forever be grateful that Blevins came along, if only to introduce the world "Thingie" into our technical vocabularly, on ocassions such as this - The Sringie Thingie has sprung -' I post up a serious bit back there about the Boeing layoffs, complete with numbers and a picture...and that's what YOU put up in response? That's all you got? What a joke. Just goes to prove you have a built-in problem with yours truly that blinds you to anything I present. Sounds like a personal problem to me... Your objectivity in the Cooper case flew out the window a while back, I think. what in HELL are you yammering about now - ??????????????????????????????????????????? go jump people on the street or kids getting on a buss, or something - ? Mind your own business for a change?(if you have any) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #31496 March 31, 2012 Quote Georger says in part: Quote 'I will forever be grateful that Blevins came along, if only to introduce the world "Thingie" into our technical vocabularly, on ocassions such as this - The Sringie Thingie has sprung -' I post up a serious bit back there about the Boeing layoffs, complete with numbers and a picture...and that's what YOU put up in response? That's all you got? What a joke. Just goes to prove you have a built-in problem with yours truly that blinds you to anything I present. Sounds like a personal problem to me... Your objectivity in the Cooper case flew out the window a while back, I think. Yah, GEORGER! Be more specific like me! Hit 'em with FACTS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 198 #31497 March 31, 2012 Quote"please keep in mind the scale of those particles, in Tom's photos. Compare their relative sizes" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide back atcha - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfboard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #31498 March 31, 2012 Knoss states: Quote Jo knows most of what I say is right. She has some weird idea for protecting the living conspirators but ratting on the FBI. Well, Ralph and Nick are living, Jo. She won't give up McCoy, or the other guy, just call them 'footprints'. Crap - I have found NO TRUTHS in anything you have said. I am protecting NO ONE, but do protect myself against people like you who consistently twist things to meet your own needs or your twisted mine. Please STOP using footprints - again you have NO footprints! You do NOT have any written documentation or photos - you have NOTHING. Footprints was NOT part of your vocabulary until I spoke of the footprints we are chasing. A footprint leaves an impression - one can SEE. You have NOTHING anyone can see other than your twisted story which has evolved from phone conversations and emails with me and others. Every post you make just buries you deeper and deeper in your own excrement. It would be fruitless to follow any lead on the BYU pin as that only exists in your mind. PRESENT (1) ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE - JUST ONE THAT WARRANTS anyone expend one minute doing so. You presented "pictures' of Mac and it was obvious only a sick mind would even present something so "obviously" concocted. You also continue to repeat the story claiming Duane wore make-up and his hair was bleached blonde. That would have created a FREAK - an attention getter. His complexion was anything but pale - you can't even reconcile yourself about that when pictures have been present that PROVE you are contocting the make-up story. Amongest the contenders for Cooper only KC would have needed make-up to make him appear darker.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #31499 March 31, 2012 "another part of DB's Grudge)..." Knoss has stated below: Quote He hag no grudge, he was just told to say that as a point of misdirection, so someone could suggest something like the above!!! CREW to the bottom of his black little heart. No one - absolutely NO ONE instructed Cooper about his remark to a question Tina asked Cooper. She was trying to help this troubled man and at the same time soothe her fears. She enquired of Cooper if he had a grudge...she felt he was a "very sad man". Tina was NOT part of a conspiracy before or after and now ,you Knoss make a mockery out of a simple question she innocently asked. Individuals like Knoss are responsible for many crimes never being solved. Truth is NOT part of their lives and individuals like Knoss live in some kind of alternate world. The SIMPLE FACTS about this crime are just that simple and easy and should NOT be up for debate AND/OR some writer or freak changing facts about the crime and first response to investigative interviews with witnesses. NO one instructed Tina to ask if Cooper had a GRUDGE! That was just her way of life - to be there for others in a time of need. It just how she was raised. Cooper's answer again was just generic as he realized she was simply trying to be kind and was showing concern. After all Cooper actually thought these would be his last moments on earth. As for the tie - I have my own gut feelings about that. Since DNA was not a known factor - it was left on purpose...and this is my gut feeling because of things said by the ex-wife and something Duane stated one time - but it was not related to the skyjacking.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #31500 March 31, 2012 but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
