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The British rock group ‘The Clash’ had a song called Tommy Gun in the late 70’s.

But I think they are better known for the most misheard song in the history of music called ‘Rock the Casbah’.

Point of order, that is true in the US but not in the UK or countries where they still use British spelling - London Calling and Guns of Brixton are generally the most well-known and London Calling and the albums before that seen as the definitive ones.

So maybe we find someone called Black Maria pitching up in one of Knoss's elaborate tales ...

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Tommy Gunn, adult film star was not born till 1967 and did not begin his ‘career’ till 2004. Was there another porn star named Tommy Gunn?
....You can imagine my surprise to discover that Richard Lugar, Dick Armey and Dick Butkus were real names instead of clichés. Strange world.

Tommy Gunn is an industry standard for porno star names. There has always been at least one on the docket, sometimes more than one. Easy to verify. Incidently, Harry Bauhls was not a porn star, but he can't get his name on a pubic building.

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Incidently, Harry Bauhls was not a porn star, but he can't get his name on a pubic building.

Coincidently, they "scratched" Harry Baals off the list of names for the new Fort Wayne Government Center.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41480994/ns/us_news-weird_news/

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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You know it's strange that McCoy never said a word about this in court, and instead stood there and let that Federal judge give him 45 years on the air piracy charge.

Instead, the guy just does the dumb thing and an FBI agent gave him a full charge of buckshot in the chest, killing him instantly.

Discussed and covered. You are way to easy if you believe the cover story AND the KC story, AND space aliens, AND.............???

Vicki: Thanks for the clarification.

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The British rock group ‘The Clash’ had a song called Tommy Gun in the late 70’s.

But I think they are better known for the most misheard song in the history of music called ‘Rock the Casbah’.

Point of order, that is true in the US but not in the UK or countries where they still use British spelling - London Calling and Guns of Brixton are generally the most well-known and London Calling and the albums before that seen as the definitive ones.

So maybe we find someone called Black Maria pitching up in one of Knoss's elaborate tales ...

Try "Confetti".

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Pardon me all to hell but this thread has turned into nothing more than a pissing contest....
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All amounts to the biggest pile of horseshit I've ever had the privilege of seeing. The entire thread has turned from something interesting and factual to a shit throwing contest.....do us all a favor and close the thread and start a new one somewhere else.

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The real man by that name was NOT McCoy - and was a real person who I met and whose information was given to the FBI to include his phone number and address (he is now deceased).

You have your facts all messed up again, but I'm not going to argue with you. I have written documentation of the Gunn history and verification from indisputable witnesses.

There must be 500 people by that name or more. Mac only used it for a while. He helped organize a Tag Team of World Champion Wrestlers who took that name. You can look them up, too. Bart and Billy Gunn. The Smokin' Gunns. Bart Gunn was Mike Barton whom I have mentioned numerous times. Mac took him to Japan in his post 'Butter Bean" fight which closed his U.S. career. We have spoken a number of times. Big dude! I have his porno video including Mac....... er, Tommy Gunn McCoy, porn star!

Attached is their picture with Mac's Marshal's badge.

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Pardon me all to hell but this thread has turned into nothing more than a pissing contest....
517331 views
22343 replies
All amounts to the biggest pile of horseshit I've ever had the privilege of seeing. The entire thread has turned from something interesting and factual to a shit throwing contest.....do us all a favor and close the thread and start a new one somewhere else.

Lodestar, Tell us something we don't already know!

Robert Nicholson

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Those people in Fort Wayne seem too testy about “Harry Baals” and should worry about things they can better grasp.

Just south is Ball State University which the citizens of Fort Wayne could honor by naming the caddy-corner park “Ball State Square” (get it?) and with a pair of appropriately named locations make claim to give Fort Wayne the recognition they so richly deserve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUuyzQDmjY

When given lemons make……

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Pardon me all to hell but this thread has turned into nothing more than a pissing contest....
517331 views
22343 replies
All amounts to the biggest pile of horseshit I've ever had the privilege of seeing. The entire thread has turned from something interesting and factual to a shit throwing contest.....do us all a favor and close the thread and start a new one somewhere else.

Yours is not an original concept. It's been much debated but . . .

One big pile in a location you don't have to visit if you don't want to is far preferable to multiple piles left unchecked.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Jo I have been all over the internet today reading all about your claims of Mrs DB Cooper. As you have posted so many times before on this strange site dated 2006. I found statements that totally shocks me. Your claims, Even one about your visit to washington. You said Duane and you stoped on the river and Duane had a bag in the back seat of the car with 200.000 dollars in it. He left the car with it and didn't come back with it. Then you state. that you didn't think anything of it until Brian found the money. This can be read on this site by all its easy to find I'll explain how later for proof of this and her other claims. It was on some thread you were on in 2006. You have made stories up Since 1995. What is with this story that Duane told you he was Dan Cooper on his death bed? Your story to Shelly and I was that he told you in a low voice ( Because he couldn't talk loud) that he knew who DB Cooper was. Then got mad and said the hell with all of you I'll take it to the grave with me.Are You going to call us a liar about that, or deny it too. You know for a fact that it is also recorded.As for your friend if he wants a copy of the tape I will talk to him and get the address from him, I may still have it, and coordinate delivery directly with him. Your intervention is not required for anything any more. As for as what I've done for the case . I've assisted the FBI with this case for 25yrs.I've researched countless claims by others and hit the woods every time a new claim was made too Ralph Hope or Ralph Hemelsbach.Any new evidence that was brought to the FBI or Ralph I was called for help .That even included the latest find, the parachute. And yes my recommendations are highly regarded.( I've served as a guide many times and on search and rescue in the area. The DB Cooper case is not the only one I've helped on). Instead of trying to side track it and cause trouble like you have.Why do you want copies of what you have said you already have. But no problem I will get you copies of everything when I release it and post it for every one to see or have. I'm headed back to Florida To visit my daughter and grandsons soon and I will be happy to hand deliver this stuff to you at the same time I give it to your local news station and news paper. If I can find your local senior center I will leave them your copies if you don't want me to give them to you personally. Now as far as you blaming any medical problems you are having on me or my post is unfair. I have done nothing but expose you for the fantastic fiction writer that you really are. I've even suggested a good 2nd career employment option to you with the comic book companies.And what is up with all these stipulations of yours for me to go through you for contact with others. Jo its been your deception of this case that has been your down fall for years.No one else is at fault. You have been asked repeatedly to move on yet you have done exactly the opposite and have put every one down that has given you this advice like Larry Carr, Ralph and his wife. Shelly and I, Geoger, orange one, slugo, Duanes friend and many others.Oh almost forgot. In one of your posts in 2006 you claimed to have contact with Tina. Funny she can't recall that nor can any one else.I also read Pasterneks article again.It even states that the info on Duane that is published can not be proven or verified. "Go figure".I don't know how the FBI ever missed finding that forum you were using to post alot of the stories you now deny but I garantee you they will have the info Tuesday AM for their future references. If any one on Drop Zone wants to have a vast amount of good reading just go to face book and type in Jo Weber Scroll down and there is a section that states Jo Weber Widow of Duane Weber that claims he was DB Cooper. Click it . It will take you to alot of sites Like Drop Zone Sluggos web site. Brad Metz Decoded.and a site that Jo was on through 2006, to include one of Doug Pasterneks article.It all makes for a very interesting afternoon. Last, but not least, Jo you began this attack.This cituation would never have occured if you had not been so decieving with this case. Jerry

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Good point Quade, thanks for the chuckle...

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and NOT publically as he does NOT remember giving you permission to record the conversation..nor the things you claim he said.

A two party conversation can be taped legally, only if ONE of the participants consents to the taping.

This means; if I am speaking with you on the phone and tape the conversation it would be legal. On the other hand, if you are engaged in conversation with another party, and your neighbor has installed a recording device to listen to your conversations, that would be illegal.

These tapes he is talking about were made before - 2001 and early 2002 and in the state of FLA it was illegal to record a conversation without my explicite permission and then it would have been for the purpose I recorded things - so I could make my notes about the conversation.

Right now I am not interested in the legal aspect of this - but the content he claims is there. Since Jerry has a history of misinterperting to his benefit I want to hear them with both sides of the conversation intact.

Jerry didn't even bother to listen to the Radio interview done before I went to WA. Why is the story I tell there the same I wrote in an email to the producer on the documentary BEFORE I did the segment? Before I went to WA in 2001! I have dated hard copies of these emails. The radio segment is on your computer and it was done in 2000 and it was the first time I had EVER spoke about the Cooper thing publically. I believe the TV news interview came after the radio interview.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Robert. I assure you Jo was aware of the recordings it was agreed upon in the very beginning it was even her Idea. She can be heard agreeing to this there was also others in the room during our conversations. Now this may sound odd to you but the recordings were to serve as future references for Jo's book deal. You see she had a author and all set up before She contacted Ralph or my self.All this has been posted on Drop Zone in the past. None of this is a surprise to Jo. DropZone it self has proof of this in previous posts.Jerry

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Jo .I didn't have to listen to the radio interview in 2000 or 2001. Why would I. Your stories had already changed so much. And you were using stories you had taken out of books and using some of them as your own. As it was when you got out here back then, you could only remember I5 and I5 bridge as your point of entry into washington.Also on the tape you state that you and Duane went across the I5 bridge then up I 5 and as you crossed the colwitz river bridge Duane pointed and told you that is where DB Cooper buried his money.You got that part of your story from the book What really Happened. I forget who the author was.Still Jo all it takes is for more people to be made aware of the posts and claims you have made in the past on other web sites then your deception will be over. The only thing left to do is find some way to get it to the public so the damage that you have caused to this case can be corrected. And Drop Zone can get back to what it does best. and that is come up with new Ideas on this case that can be helpful in solving it without you coming in and saying "Oh I remember that Duane was involved in that" or what ever connection you can come up with to put all the attention on Jo Weber and Duane so you can get more publicity in some form or another. One thing I do have to admit you are good at fooling a lot of people.You would make an excellent Instructor in the art of deception. You have some many talents its a shame to see you waist them. Jo why don't you take a stroll down memory lane and go back to those sites you have posted on in the past and read them. I hope every one else does. Also take a hard look at the shows you have done and the things you said about every one that has chalenged you and try to visualize how you look in others eyes.Jerry

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Even one about your visit to washington. You said Duane and you stoped on the river and Duane had a bag in the back seat of the car with 200.000 dollars in it.

Why would I say there was 200K when I had NO idea what was in the bag? It was never in the back seat, but maybe the trunk and I didn't see it untll we were leaving the big Green Tank.

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What is with this story that Duane told you he was Dan Cooper on his death bed? Your story to Shelly and I was that he told you in a low voice ( Because he couldn't talk loud) that he knew who DB Cooper was.

Duane did NOT whisper and he told me he was Dan Cooper. He was keeping his voice low, but normal. When i didn't grasp what he was trying to tell the said very loudly "Oh, F--- Let it die with me".

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As for your friend if he wants a copy of the tape I will talk to him and get the address from him, I may still have it, and coordinate delivery directly with him.

You have damaged enough lives and you aren't going to put him in the hospital like you have done me. By the way I didn't say send it to me - I sad a neutral 3rd party..

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I'm headed back to Florida To visit my daughter and grandsons soon and I will be happy to hand deliver this stuff to you at the same time I give it to your local news station and news paper. If I can find your local senior center I will leave them your copies if you don't want me to give them to you personally.

You suggest you have an attorney and a bonds man available - the only things you understand are threats and intimidation. You come near me and I will have you arrested, because I think you are a dangerous man.

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In one of your posts in 2006 you claimed to have contact with Tina.

Everyone knows I received a call from someone claiming to be Tina and since I do not have caller ID I never knew if it was really her. NO one had the number she called me on and I had provided it to her only about 2 wks before the call....it was my husbands PRIVATE number...and I never used it for Cooper communication until after he died in 2007. He gave me permission to use the number as a contact number for Tina.

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Funny she can't recall that nor can any one else.

So now you are claiming Contact with the Wizard! And unless you don't know who the Wizard is - maybe you should ask Bruce.


My Special Message:


I ceased contact with JT in 2001 because he made my life Hell. He found this site and started his attacks on me again. I have been cordial and nice and try NOT to respond to his inflammatory posts and threats.

Jt has only one agenda and that is to STOP Jo...and he has done this since day one. WHY? Eveyone here has to ask themselves - WHY does JT want only to STOP JO? WHY doesn't he attack others the way he attacks her? WHY?


Now for something of interest and yes it is one of those things I have NEVER talked about before. But it is TIME!

IF YOU COME NEAR HERE I WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED". He also talks about guns. Seriously guys I wish I knew how to put that on this thread. His voice was very raspy because of a procedure he had done, but it is what he said and how he said it - that I think would interest Tina and Florence.

His body was failing him. He was a sick and scared and angry man that day, but before the tape ends he is joking about the "Squirrel" in the shop. This was during his first few wks of diaylsis in 1990 when he was fighting to maintain his sanity because his life depended on a machine. Five yrs later he lost that battle on March 28, 1995.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Jo .I didn't have to listen to the radio interview in 2000 or 2001. Why would I. Your stories had already changed so much. And you were using stories you had taken out of books and using some of them as your own. As it was when you got out here back then, you could only remember I5 and I5 bridge as your point of entry into washington.Also on the tape you state that you and Duane went across the I5 bridge then up I 5 and as you crossed the colwitz river bridge Duane pointed and told you that is where DB Cooper buried his money.You got that part of your story from the book What really Happened. I forget who the author was.Still Jo all it takes is for more people to be made aware of the posts and claims you have made in the past on other web sites then your deception will be over. The only thing left to do is find some way to get it to the public so the damage that you have caused to this case can be corrected. And Drop Zone can get back to what it does best. and that is come up with new Ideas on this case that can be helpful in solving it without you coming in and saying "Oh I remember that Duane was involved in that" or what ever connection you can come up with to put all the attention on Jo Weber and Duane so you can get more publicity in some form or another. One thing I do have to admit you are good at fooling a lot of people.You would make an excellent Instructor in the art of deception. You have some many talents its a shame to see you waist them. Jo why don't you take a stroll down memory lane and go back to those sites you have posted on in the past and read them. I hope every one else does. Also take a hard look at the shows you have done and the things you said about every one that has chalenged you and try to visualize how you look in others eyes.Jerry

Jerry - you are the ONE who insisted that the only way we could have gone was to cross the I-5 bridge and YOU gave the river the name - I told you that WAS NOT right. I told you I didn't have a map of the area and tried to explain to you we crossed the Columbia earlier and that we WERE NOT on the OR side and that the road that went NORTH was not I-5. Since you insisted I figured I had to be wrong - I had no map and had not been out there except in 1979.

I finally had to give up and accept the things you told me and the names you gave me.
BUT when I went to WA - in 2001 - I learned you were wrong and what I said was there was there and the names where NOT what you called them.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Jo Don't ask me why you made those statements in your posts. They are there for all to read. you posted that stuff no one else.As for what Duane said. That is what you said he told you.Not this stuff that he was Dan Cooper.You Say you received a call from someone saying they was Tina. Jo You made soooooo! many claims.As for you having me arrested go for it. As for calling Shelly and I a a liar. Read your own writings.As for me coming to Florida and your town that is going to happen . I will personally contact your Police dept and Sheriff dept when I arrive.I'm sure they can help me find your senior center so I can leave the copies of the Items you have requested with them, I'll also give a copy of all of it to the police and sheriff dept and a personal copy for your senior center. I wouldn't want any one to feel left out and of course it can be inspected for content,Is there anything else you would like to threaten me with, Jo or character flaws you would like to bring up.Yes I have a fantastic attorney and bondsman.Still I have no fear of you. The only thing that will happen is that people will take a hard look at you and this time your publicity will not be admirable. Maybe this will help grt the message out to the public about your stories and help correct the damage you have done to others and the claims of bad FBI work. At least it may get people to search the internet and read some of those post you are denying.Jerry

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Jo our conversation about I 5. You insisted you were on the interstate the whole way from I 84 thru Portland across the the river then into Washington. You were very persistant in the fact that the only bridge you could remember was the Cowlitz river Bridge.You were adamant about not being on HWY 14. It was not till weeks later that you started making up other stories.Your excuse for adding to your story was that you were told by the author not to disclose that new information. However when I talked to her for some reason she couldn't remember those new stories of yours. Thats when she droped you. But why are you debating this with me.You can argue with your self. You said and did these things no one else.Now please go back to your old web sites and read your posts as I'm sure others are doing right now. One more thing Jo your not going to gain any ground by atempting to debate all my post all that you have done is make maters worse for you. Jerry

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Robert. I guess its time to prove your Hoaxs. Na no need to do that you do fine by your self.And by the way you have no case and never have had. I sure would love to go one on one with you. Feel better now you have some time. Jerry

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Is anyone seeing northern lights the last several
days?

Current POES satellite coverage map at:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html

Intensities are increasing in a swath from the
NE to Midwest USA, as deep as Missouri.

But, is anyone actually seeing anything from this
X-flare event?

TIA -
G.

[edit] real time intensity plots can bee seen at:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

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'Robert. I guess its time to prove your Hoaxs...'

I'll assume you mean you can prove what I published regarding Kenny Christiansen was all a big hoax.

You are the one who says hoax. So go for it.

Or is your 'prover' broken?

Otherwise, forever hold your peace.

Jerry writes at the level of a 4th grader. You never know what he's talking about.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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Blevins. This I will do. And it will not be on Drop Zone the best way to prove your book is made up is in the public eye.This will be done through the media. I will get started first thing Tuesday Morning. Jerry

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196912. Will sorry you feel that way. I've been told most people can uderstand what I wright. Unless there either Retarded or has piged out on a Idiot stick. Jerry

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Is anyone seeing northern lights the last several
days?

Current POES satellite coverage map at:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html

Intensities are increasing in a swath from the
NE to Midwest USA, as deep as Missouri.

But, is anyone actually seeing anything from this
X-flare event?

TIA -
G.

[edit] real time intensity plots can bee seen at:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

No, G, I haven't seen a thing, and it's been clear for a couple of days. Full moon though, so that might have dimmed things.

Also, I'm in the trees, and the Northern Lights that I've seen before were all along the horizon.

BTW: Thanks for the update on Zecharia.