lazerq3 0 #51 February 22, 2002 I can imagine not finding my hackey, or a total mal with nothing coming out, or having a streamer ,lineover or something wrong with the canopy, but I cant imagine looking up at a bag bouncing around with nothing comming out!! Thats one mal I hope not to be a first!!! But it probalbly will jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R00tj00se 0 #52 February 24, 2002 To all the people that have had a spinning mal, did u just go through the procedures or did you cutaway, get stable and then pull reserve?Just curious for some reason... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #53 February 24, 2002 Two rides in 21 years of skydiving. One CRW wrap that I chopped from at 900 feet and one mis-assembled on the risers main which I cutaway and landed under a round reserve. I have not had a reserve ride in the past 12 years.My webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #54 February 24, 2002 None in 130 jumps, but I was about to go for the handles once on a long snivel ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #55 February 24, 2002 Quote I can imagine not finding my hackey, or a total mal with nothing coming out, or having a streamer ,lineover or something wrong with the canopy, but I cant imagine looking up at a bag bouncing around with nothing comming out!! Thats one mal I hope not to be a first!!! But it probalbly will We later determined that the bag lock was caused by the use of tube stows that were too tight and a marginal PC(too small) for the canopy.. Either one by itself would likely have not caused a problem, but the combination certainly did.. This determination was made by the rig manufacturer, since this was only the 10th jump on the rig and it was sent back afterwards.. The PC that was on it was an aftermarket with a hackey on it, since the PC that came with the rig had a plastic handle.. The owner received the rig back within a week with a brand new PC with hackey(made by the rig manufacturer), a fresh reserve repack, and rubber bands instead of tube stows(which were also aftermarket).. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdrew20012001 0 #56 February 25, 2002 I have had two in about 330 skydives. The first was a lineover and I knew immediately. I was spinning on my back and accelerating. The second was a real low speed call. I had a hard opening canopy (robo-Z) and snapped the line to the stabalizer on the left side. When no brakes were applied it turned gently to the left, when brakes were applied it acted like a lineover and dove hard. I chopped it at 2000 because I felt it would be too hard to land. Basically it failed the control check. I saw someone who sapped half of their A lines try to land their canopy and get dumped hard from about 15 feet.Hope that helps. The first one, because it was so impressive what with spinning me on my back and all, scared the poop outta me. The second, as it was a judgement call, was not so bad but more of a pisser because I was about a week past the last repack.Drewfus McDoofus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RozeAY 0 #57 February 26, 2002 "The second, as it was a judgement call, was not so bad but more of a pisser because I was about a week past the last repack."Hehe...my cutaway was the day after my repack. Now that really sucks. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danger 0 #58 February 27, 2002 I've had 2 cutaways in 1500 jumps. The first was about 8 line twists on my 120. The other was was what I thought was a bag lock. Canopy started opening just as I was pulling the cutaway. I had to carry on with my procedures. Before leaving the plane on every jump do a handles check. Also help out in the first jump course during the malfuction/emergency procedures section. Get up in the hanging harness a couple times a year. Practice prevents hesitation. Hesitation kills. Danger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 778 #59 February 27, 2002 92 jumps and no chops yet, but I once fixed a slider hang up that put me at 1200 by the time I got it down and all cells inflated. The DZO didn't like that one on his student gear.Live to Jump, Pull to Live,Lippy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conquest150 0 #60 February 13, 2003 one and that was on my 75th jump i now have 110 but i was attempting CRW with my dad and we had one successful dock before then and this one of all ones didnt go as planned my dad ended up with my canopy all around him and i ended up choppin it at about 6 grand had a mal on my reserve where i had to fly with one toggle down to about my shoulder maybe a bit lower but that was an experience and i was told by my mom that i would be doin no more CRW(only cuase she decided to come and watch thsi one jump) but i now have 3-5 successful CRW docks and plan on doin alot more fly fast, have fun, and be safe!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a97virago 0 #61 February 13, 2003 One cutaway on jump #8. Simultaneous deployment started as a side by side, but then turned into a downplane. The decision to chop to about 1 millisecond! "Oh shit! Chop!" Larry Larry A-43434 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #62 February 14, 2003 QuoteSimultaneous deployment started as a side by side, but then turned into a downplane. The decision to chop to about 1 millisecond! "Oh shit! Chop!" How'd you get a simultaneous deployment? Cypres fire on you, or what?7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #63 February 14, 2003 PC in tow leading to a stuck slider (so I interpret)jump #20. Bloody cold on opening weekend here in Manitoba. I'd got to 15 sec delays the previous fall so I was busted back to IAD on currency issues. That weekend I went IAD, 5 sec, 10 sec, 15 sec, 20 sec... 2nd 20 sec things were rockin and I had lots of alti to spare after doing my 360's. I waited till 4k to pull anyway. a 5 count later I was still flat - but not very happy - Shoulder check released the burbled p/c and it snatched me upright. I watched for what seemed like another 2-3 seconds and the slider did not decend!!... Understand that the Cruiselites we have are notorious for slamming you quickly... all was still not well. Terminal round openings hurt. I watched the main drift off with a high slider and wondered WTF?!? It LOOKED like a good chute but the ground also LOOKED a bit larger than it should haveand I WAS still at close to terminal when I chopped. I was saddled at just over 2k. Closing weekend this year (also f'ing cold) I was finishing up my FAI B RW endorsement. Now, of course, I'm quite used to pulling at 2200 and I'm quite used to the 300 ft openings the Raven inflicts on me. But, a frozen hand = a missed handle. With my "extra" 100 jumps since the chop, I knew I had time to complete one more pull as trained. I did, and then went straight for my handles just like I had as a 20 jump student. The main opening was just fine this time, but I was ready to chop just the same. Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #64 February 14, 2003 Not yet, but I've had a few occassions where I twisted up and was reaching for the red (or yellow on my rig). I paused just for a second and rechecked- it wasn't diving or spinning so I delt with it. I didn't panic, which is probably most important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggingstuff 0 #65 February 14, 2003 Been there, done that....... I think I'm up to 24 reserve rides in about 4400 jumps. It took 15 years and just under 2000 jps for the first 11. Then my 1st year in CA I had 11, 9 were tandems. That was 5 yrs ago, 2 this year both tandemsCB Don't look for why it might work....look for why it might not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geronimo 1 #66 February 14, 2003 QuoteHas everyone experienced having to do a cutaway, and did you realize immediately that you had to? Do you mean Has everyone experienced having to do a cutaway and pull reserve, and did you realize immediately that you had to? 1st: jump #7 SL from a DC-3 had opened the R3 on the right side. Same thing happened in hanging harness that very day. I finished the cutaway and pulled reserve I beat the Steven's lanyard on chest mounted reserve. Reserve pilot chute gave me a fat lip. (No AAD) 2nd: jump #400-something some sort of spinner on a demo in high winds into a tight spot. cutaway & pulled reserve. landed my round reserve in a river. Good thing I had REAL live water jumps to get my licenses. (No AAD, no RSL) 3rd: jump #600 or 700??? no cutaway - just a high speed total. after the 3rd try at the main - time for reserve. Pulled reserve asap. (No AAD, no RSL) 4th: jump #3000 ish ??? I was shaking risers & heard my dirt alert go off. (It was the original Dytter with only one sound at one altitude) I set it for 1500 ft, in case one day I would be shaking risers when it went off. I checked the ground & altimeter. Yup time to cutaway. Yeah it might have opened. Cutaway & pulled reserve. (No AAD, no RSL) 5th: jump #3700 ish???? some type of spinner on a World Record attempt. No- pressure. Cutaway & pulled reserve asap. (No AAD, no RSL) 6th: jump# >5K TBD The HOT Tip: Have BLACK LINE decision altitudes and procedures. Follow them without question. Think 'Cutaway and pull reserve' not just 'cutaway' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #67 February 14, 2003 I hate you! You're going to make me say this which means it's going to happen. No cutaways, no reserve rides; 1148 jumps. If it happens, may all of your children be born naked. Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #68 February 14, 2003 I had a cutaway on jump #39 (I think...38 or 39). I had a canopy collision (neither of us tracked.) Lessons learned: just because the other guy has over 500 jumps doesn't mean he knows what he's doing (nearing 500 jumps now, I am strong proof of that!) Another lesson learned: don't get on anything where you can't "take care of yourself." Other people might watch out for the inexperienced one, other people might not. And, tracking dives are WAY fun...I suggest them to all!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #69 February 14, 2003 Jump number 60 - crossed line groups (don't ask me how -)causing a low-speed spin - not controllable. Cut, reserve, see the freebag- see the main, both coming down in the clear, cool, first jump of the day - DAMN! I'm buying beer and it ain't even 11:00 yet! No RSL. Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #70 February 14, 2003 One cutaway on jump 85. The decision didn't come right away, because the circumstances didn't warrant that. But I'm not flying a small highly-elliptical canopy either Don't be afraid to do it if you're in doubt - it typically only costs $50 and you're jumping is done for the day, but you have a wonderful story to tell eveyone and post on dz.com Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #71 February 14, 2003 Nope, no cutaways yet (if you don't count wind cutaways as real cutaways). However, I haven't been around the sport all that long (only 154 jumps in 7 months). I'm sure I'll have one sooner or later, but I'm happy that the need hasn't yielded it's ugly head yet. I do however go through my cutaway procedures on every jump and every once in a while I watch my Breakaway video to get me into the mindset of what to do under what malfunction type. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a97virago 0 #72 February 14, 2003 The DZO and S&TA went over the rig when I brough it down and as near as anyone can figure the pin got bumbed either on exit or in the aiplane. Not enough to cause a premature deployment, but when the container opened for the main, so did the reserve. At pull time, I was stable, belly to earth and well above AAD Arming or firing altitude. Larry A-43434 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #73 February 14, 2003 One reserve ride, no cutaways. Jump #36 or thereabouts. Dropped the handle (I have a pull-out) before getting the pin out, and couldn't get a grip on the handle or the bridle after a few seconds so decided it was time for plan B. Had a nice terminal reserve opening.... actually, it wasn't that nice.... but it definitely opened. Totally avoidable, had I spent 5 minutes on the ground rehearsing how to find the bridle on the back of my rig. Had a similar situation again recently, and was able to get to the bridle no problem. I am also taking steps to make sure that situation doesn't occur any more. Bigger pud handle, and more mental engagement at pull time. Both times it occurred I was wearing gloves - shitty leather gloves the first time, and NFL receiver gloves with separate liners under them the second time. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #74 February 14, 2003 163 jumps no cutaway Knock on wood Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SickMonkey 0 #75 February 15, 2003 Two tandem malfunctions last year. That's it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
