gowlerk 1,912 #1376 July 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Purchased his weapon legally. Of course he did. Why wouldn't he? Most likely the next mass shooter, probably later today is at the store buying supplies for killing right now. It's a free for all folks. The government has no business restricting people from owning the tools of war just because some men go off the deep end unpredictably. The chances that you or someone you love will be the victim are still pretty low so why the hell would anyone willingly give up the freedom to own these shiny magically wonderfully powerful toys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1377 July 5, 2022 Way too much negativity in this thread. So America had the misfortune to be created by a constitution authored by those who just don't trust government. Hence armed citizens everywhere. Hence checks and balances that hog-tie government. it could be worse. They could be Uyghurs like those in China. Sent to reeducation camps and forced labor camps. Could be Ukrainians at war with a madman....Oh hell i got nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #1378 July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, kallend said: The Highland Park suspect: Which flag is he wearing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #1379 July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Which flag is he wearing? Trump 2020 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1380 July 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Which flag is he wearing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #1381 July 5, 2022 23 hours ago, kallend said: ...Highland Park is a wealthy suburb - home to Ferris Bueller's friend Cameron. No shit. Governor Pritzker & Sen Duckworth both held press conferences. It's been at the top of the national headlines for a couple days. Six dead in Englewood or South Shore wouldn't even be top 3 on WGN at 9pm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1382 July 6, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Way too much negativity in this thread. So America had the misfortune to be created by a constitution authored by those who just don't trust government. Hence armed citizens everywhere. Hence checks and balances that hog-tie government. it could be worse. They could be Uyghurs like those in China. Sent to reeducation camps and forced labor camps. Could be Ukrainians at war with a madman....Oh hell i got nothing. Meanwhile, back to Ulvade, Texas has acted with dispatch and conviction to address the problem of school mass shootings. They are bravely spending $50 Million dollars on bullet proof shields for their brave police so they can be even more brave, hopefully, at the next school shooting. Problem solved. Edited July 6, 2022 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1383 July 6, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 1:00 PM, wmw999 said: No hellhole, but a place that's doubling down on doing the same thing, and expecting a different result. Eventually enough people may figure out that there aren't, in fact, a bunch of super human prescient good guys with guns running around. Wendy P. This young lady was at Highland Park. Yes, we are a hellhole. Worse, we're a war zone. God Bless our Second Amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #1384 July 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: This young lady was at Highland Park. Yes, we are a hellhole. Worse, we're a war zone. God Bless our Second Amendment. Fortunately no laws were broken by the shooter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1385 July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, billvon said: Fortunately no laws were broken by the shooter. Well, that's all right then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #1386 July 6, 2022 At this point, from the outside, the US is looking more and more irredeemably broken. What is so mystifying is that at least half the country doesn't seem to be aware that they are throwing a lot of the principles the country was founded upon away. What REALLY worries me is that other governments in places where I DO live or spend time (or oppositions, depending on the country) are starting to use the activities in the US as a template to strangle democracy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #1387 July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Stumpy said: ...What is so mystifying is that at least half the country doesn't seem to be aware that they are throwing a lot of the principles the country was founded upon away... It's well under half. The way the Rs have very effectively manipulated the system to the point where their clear minority can exert as much power and control as it does is both disgusting and frightening. Fun fact: The conservative majority on the Supreme Court consists of 5 justices appointed by presidents who LOST the popular vote when they were elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1388 July 6, 2022 7 hours ago, JoeWeber said: This young lady was at Highland Park. Yes, we are a hellhole. Worse, we're a war zone. God Bless our Second Amendment. The new red, white and blue for July 4th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #1389 July 6, 2022 No comment needed.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1390 July 7, 2022 14 hours ago, gowlerk said: No comment needed.... The solution isn't simple but it is obvious. As a society, we need to ban all assault style weapons and make possession subject to very serious penalties because we need to stop fabulizing their ownership. We need to stop local school control, because the boards are too often foolish and misdirected, and create a national standards system paid for with national tax dollars. We need to provide lunches, basic medical care and psychological care at every school. Teachers need to be paid more and held to high standards and accountability. That means the unions need to give something. Summers off for 3 months must end and school uniforms should be on the table. Child care needs to be a national priority. But mostly we need to quit believing we are teaching parents and go full focus on taking care of kids. Not just by educating them but by helping them to be well adjusted and ready to enter adulthood and society. Until we do that we should expect nothing less than we now expect every day. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #1391 July 7, 2022 How about the New Zealand approach of banning publishing the names of school shooters. The drop in notoriety might reduce the numbers of "inspired" angry, young men. A society can be measured by the way it utilizes its angry young men. Mr. Poutine is currently using his angry young men to shoot up the Ukrainian landscape while American angry young men are shooting up schools, parades, churches, shopping malls. Canada just experienced a - rare - armed bank robbery by a pair of angry young men. Police in Saanich, British Columbia (near Victoria) killed both on scene. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1392 July 8, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, riggerrob said: ...Canada just experienced a - rare - armed bank robbery by a pair of angry young men. Police in Saanich, British Columbia (near Victoria) killed both on scene. Reports "one Canadian criminologist says it appears the brothers were prepared for and perhaps "actively seeking" some kind of shootout....Isaac Auchterlonie's Instagram account, which has since been deleted, was full of gun photos, war references and video of him and his brother in camouflage shooting rifles in the forest. ...Police have said the suspects were armed and were believed to have been wearing body armour... "They were waiting for something. Pacing quietly, like a country walk," she said. Fryer said she was left alone for five to 10 minutes inside the office. During that time, she pulled out her cellphone and called 911. "Why were [the suspects] waiting? What were they doing?" she wondered. "They could have taken the money and gone." It seems as if the two wanted "suicide by cop" One wanted to join the Canadian forces but failed an aptitude test. Edited July 8, 2022 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1393 July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: . . . . One . . failed an aptitude test. I suspect that applies to many of the "good guy with a gun" wannabees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1394 July 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, kallend said: I suspect that applies to many of the "good guy with a gun" wannabees. No insult to Rob or other members of the CAF. But I was surprised they had such a test and wonder how you could fail it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #1395 July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, kallend said: I suspect that applies to many of the "food guy with a gun" wannabees. FIFY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #1396 July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: No insult to Rob or other members of the CAF. But I was surprised they had such a test and wonder how you could fail it. Military aptitude test. Why do you want to join the military (check all that apply)? 1. Travel to other countries. (X) 2. Meet interesting people. (X) 3. Kill them. (XX) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #1397 July 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kallend said: I suspect that applies to many of the "good guy with a gun" wannabees. He knows he’s supposed to stockpile supplies in the storm shelter and not in his stomach, right? Edited July 8, 2022 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1398 July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, GeorgiaDon said: Military aptitude test. Why do you want to join the military (check all that apply)? 1. Travel to other countries. (X) 2. Meet interesting people. (X) 3. Kill them. (XX) Canadian military: 1. Prepared to use old outdated equipment. Or fix it. 2. Prepared to travel on old unreliable A/C. 3. Prepared to watch other NATO allies go to danger areas. 4. Prepared to be politically correct in all occasions. Unless you're a general/admiral in Ottawa. Then pussy grabbing ok. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #1399 July 14, 2022 Well, since the standard 'thoughts and prayers' are not working, the alt-right has decided to up the ante. New laws? Better mental health care? ANYTHING even remotely based on reality? Don't be silly. I'm talking about Fox Garbage Network (it's not 'news') They suggest exorcisms. No clue who they plan on doing it to, how they plan on identifying them or any of the zillion other questions that arise from this idiocy, but apparently this fool is serious:https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hire-exorcists-end-mass-shootings-002552287.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM6T5dKrjUIfGYzJQa5fOGzN-mwx42sN4hrOcg7SZleUs0eU2r499A9Rwk_iQ4yci9OUJkfZndyHqMRP-70aq5YSQMUJvIL3T7mrgZ8gBpoqHBKJkRYHlHvmPOAUfxEUynsxvamm2EFymjXGUKR1Ds4AQi_Ld2M-Zrguh5gQlq1z Personally, the scariest part about the whole story is that the guy suggesting this was Secretary of EDUCATION under Bush 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 122 #1400 July 18, 2022 Greenwood IN mall shooting. Hooray for a good guy. "The real hero of the day is the citizen that was lawfully carrying a firearm in that food court and was able to stop the shooter almost as soon as he began," Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites