Harvey Weinstein long time Democrat donor acused of sexual harassment and assault

[RonD1120 58]

billvon

>Only in the world of the "touchy/feely" liberals.

No, in the real world. If someone came up to you on the street, put their hand under their jacket and said "I am going to kill you and take your money!" you would be justified in defending yourself (in fact, that's pretty much the legal definition of assault.) He doesn't need to stab you for you to be in the right to defend yourself.

In the real world, words mean things.

The liberals used to emphasize that in the domestic violence program where I worked. I had to rehearse my comments with extreme caution. Definitely not a good work environment for me. I resigned after 1.5 years.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,257]

RonD1120

Your example of someone saying they were going to assault a child certainly requires a protective adult response, not necessarily violent.

And that is exactly the scenario that was under discussion when you said that responding to it was a 'touchy/feely liberal' approach.

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I am referring to 1:1 insults.

Not when the comment in question was made.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,257]

RonD1120

In response, I don't view myself as being afraid or weak.

Oh Ron. You make it so easy. I'll give you one guess who said this:

"My wife and I were discussing our current presidential circus. We agreed that our anger/fear strongly influences us to make a decision for Donald Trump. In so doing, we would be in the same camp with our peer group."

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 58]

Donald Trump was elected so that fear dissipated.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,402]

>"My wife and I were discussing our current presidential circus. We agreed that our
>anger/fear strongly influences us to make a decision for Donald Trump. In so doing,
>we would be in the same camp with our peer group."

Keep in mind that conservatives in general live in fear more often than liberals do. Indeed, clinging to what worked in the past is very reassuring when things are changing in a rapid/scary way.

So in a way it's a good thing Ron has those fears to fall back on; else he might start thinking a little more liberally.

[Stumpy 256]

RonD1120

I was taught that "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me."

And if you still believe that you probably shouldn't be allowed anywhere near people with psychological issues.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[RonD1120 58]

Stumpy

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I was taught that "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me."

And if you still believe that you probably shouldn't be allowed anywhere near people with psychological issues.

Oh no, those are my peeps. Remember what Hunter S. Thompson said, "When the going gets weird the weird turn pro."

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 622]

Suicide is NOT 'pro', IMO.

[nolhtairt 0]

normiss

Suicide is NOT 'pro', IMO.

Indeed, when the going got tough, Thompson vented his head. (If that was his method, can't recall though)

[normiss 622]

It was, with his wife on the other end of a phone call when he popped himself.
I think one of his kids found him.

[RonD1120 58]

I'll be darned, didn't know that.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,127]

RonD1120

***

Sometimes 'something said' can have the same consequences as 'something done'.

Only in the world of the "touchy/feely" liberals. I was taught that "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me."

That goes along with being personally responsible. Nowadays most are looking for someone or something to blame. That is social weakness IMO.

Considering you actively went after a dropzone.com member's livelihood based purely on the words written we all know you are full of shit when you say these things.

[billvon 2,402]

And your one warning. Cut it out.

[normiss 622]

Facts are PA's?

Seriously, I don't get this one.
My apologies if I, too, am out of line.

[wolfriverjoe 1,345]

normiss

Facts are PA's?

Seriously, I don't get this one.
My apologies if I, too, am out of line.

"You are full of shit" is the PA.

The facts about his attempts to damage TK's business have been posted (without warnings) more than once.

Edit to add:

Ron D1120

I don't know for certain. However, I have experienced many PAs over the years without retribution to the sender. Try it and see.

This is proof that the above allegation (post #141 of this very thread) was wrong.

PAs usually get warned. However, what is actually a PA is often missed. Some people on here are very good at knowing where the line is and getting right up to it without crossing it. Professor Kallend is one of the best at it.

But Ron needs to fill his need to be a victim, so he feels that when he is called out on his bigotry, hypocrisy or other stuff, or when his belief system or those of his "Tribe" are criticized, it is a PA.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[DJL 232]

RonD1120

Donald Trump was elected so that fear dissipated.

I've seen nothing but fear, weakness and anger from the right.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[yoink 321]

DJL

***Donald Trump was elected so that fear dissipated.

I've seen nothing but fear, weakness and anger from the right.

From everyone, actually. The left are far from immune to these traits.

[billvon 2,402]

>Facts are PA's?

"You are full of shit" is a personal attack.

[RonD1120 58]

DJL

***Donald Trump was elected so that fear dissipated.

I've seen nothing but fear, weakness and anger from the right.

If your evidence is the news media, no wonder.

In my world things have calmed down. Right now some are concerned about the legalization of medical marijuana in GA. We have a few case of Agent Orange related Parkinson's Disease. Veteran outreach is still near the top of the list. The rest are focused on deer season.

When a discussion regarding President Trump and his administration comes up it is along the lines of 1) just let him do his job and 2) Congress just do your job.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Lawndarter 3]

yoink

From everyone, actually. The left are far from immune to these traits.

They're not immune, but fear and anxiety are far more dominant themes among conservatives, and their media is entirely geared toward feeding their fear and anxiety. It's part of why they're so much more likely to be duped by fake news and hoaxes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

https://newrepublic.com/article/119895/psychology-fear-increases-conservatism

Conservative political machines in every country know this and harness it. And it's not because conservatives are "stupid", either. Some unquestionably are, but so are some liberals.

http://www.danielmtfessler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fessler-et-al-in-press-Political-Orientation-Credulity.pdf

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/02/why-fake-news-targeted-trump-supporters/515433/

[DJL 232]

Lawndarter

***
From everyone, actually. The left are far from immune to these traits.

They're not immune, but fear and anxiety are far more dominant themes among conservatives, and their media is entirely geared toward feeding their fear and anxiety. It's part of why they're so much more likely to be duped by fake news and hoaxes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

https://newrepublic.com/article/119895/psychology-fear-increases-conservatism

Conservative political machines in every country know this and harness it. And it's not because conservatives are "stupid", either. Some unquestionably are, but so are some liberals.

http://www.danielmtfessler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fessler-et-al-in-press-Political-Orientation-Credulity.pdf

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/02/why-fake-news-targeted-trump-supporters/515433/

I definitely don't intend to paint this as a Right Only issue, I'm speaking about all the fear mongering about Sharia Law, Islamophobia, etc.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[winsor 186]

DJL

I'm speaking about all the fear mongering about Sharia Law, Islamophobia, etc.

When people resort to buzzwords like 'Islamophobia" it tends to discredit their stance.

I consider it hardly unrealistic to have the odd misgiving about people who hold to an ideology that states in no uncertain terms that I am to be summarily put to death. This concern does not meet the definition of a 'phobia' in any sense.

The boogeymen of the left are enumerated by the SPLC, and it is considered de rigueur to hate the 'hate groups' so defined.

I hang out with guys with swastika tattoos (when you ride an outlaw Harley it comes with the territory) and spend a lot of time with people from Muslim backgrounds. Nevertheless, my concerns regarding National Socialism and Islam are solidly grounded in fact, and reference to 'phobia' is an exercise in obfuscation.


BSBD,

Winsor

[DJL 232]

winsor

*** I'm speaking about all the fear mongering about Sharia Law, Islamophobia, etc.

When people resort to buzzwords like 'Islamophobia" it tends to discredit their stance.

I consider it hardly unrealistic to have the odd misgiving about people who hold to an ideology that states in no uncertain terms that I am to be summarily put to death. This concern does not meet the definition of a 'phobia' in any sense.

The boogeymen of the left are enumerated by the SPLC, and it is considered de rigueur to hate the 'hate groups' so defined.

I hang out with guys with swastika tattoos (when you ride an outlaw Harley it comes with the territory) and spend a lot of time with people from Muslim backgrounds. Nevertheless, my concerns regarding National Socialism and Islam are solidly grounded in fact, and reference to 'phobia' is an exercise in obfuscation.


BSBD,

Winsor

"I consider it hardly unrealistic to have the odd misgiving about people who hold to an ideology that states in no uncertain terms that I am to be summarily put to death. This concern does not meet the definition of a 'phobia' in any sense."

Irony score 10/10.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[yoink 321]

Lawndarter

***
From everyone, actually. The left are far from immune to these traits.

They're not immune, but fear and anxiety are far more dominant themes among conservatives,

I don't see that. I think there are DIFFERENCES in what the groups are afraid of certainly - conservatives seem to be afraid of more discrete things at the moment (which are easier to research) whereas most liberals / moderates I know seem to have a more general anxiety about the trends in society as a whole.

I've certainly never known a more systemic attitude of general anxiety across my diverse groups of friends. It seems like no-one is particularly happy about anything, at the moment.

[billvon 2,402]

So to summarize:

Harvey Weinstein is accused of sexual assault by many actresses. Result - he is fired and disgraced.

Donald Trump is accused of sexual assault by 11 women. Result - republicans elect him president.

Bill O'Reilly is accused of sexual assault by over a dozen women. Pays off six of them to keep their mouths shut; the latest payoff is $32 million. Result - FOX News hands him a $25 million a year contract.

Interesting "family values."

(BTW rather than accept the responsibility for his actions, today O'Reilly blamed God for his problems with sexual assault.)