Harvey Weinstein long time Democrat donor acused of sexual harassment and assault

[RonD1120 58]

Bob_Church

"Do you foresee the possibility of there being moral candidates? Sex, money and power are the motivations for top positions. Sometimes just two of the three and sometimes all three. "

I was talking about the attempts by some people of blaming one party or the other. This is one of those situations where neither side should be throwing rocks.

I agree, that is the reason I dropped out of the Republican Party in 2005.

FL requires a party affiliation to vote in the primaries. I lost that privilege as an Independent. A price I was willing to pay.

In GA you request a specific ballot when you vote. Therefore, you can switch parties easily.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[wmw999 2,171]

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But where were you and the others? 5 days later ...

I don't think anyone knew that disapproval had to be posted on dz.com to count.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Bob_Church 7]

wmw999

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But where were you and the others? 5 days later ...

I don't think anyone knew that disapproval had to be posted on dz.com to count.

Wendy P.

One of the most disturbing things about this, and it's gotten to be frighteningly common these days, is the idea of groups of news commentators and others sitting around deciding whether or not Hillary Clinton or Meryl Streep show adequate amounts of outrage over this.
It reminds me of people in North Korea striving to show enough tears and grief when one of their glorious leaders dies.

[wmw999 2,171]

And doesn't that observation work equally well for the left and right in the US? All the calls for Muslims to be more overtly apologetic, and for men to be more overtly apologetic.

There are bad Muslims out there. There are bad men out there. The good ones aren't represented by the bad ones, they're all individuals, worthy of evaluating on their own.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Bob_Church 7]

wmw999

And doesn't that observation work equally well for the left and right in the US? All the calls for Muslims to be more overtly apologetic, and for men to be more overtly apologetic.

There are bad Muslims out there. There are bad men out there. The good ones aren't represented by the bad ones, they're all individuals, worthy of evaluating on their own.

Wendy P.

I'm not seeing the relationship here. Not necessarily disagreeing, just missing something.
My point is that it's become common to judge people based on how they react to something rather than what they did. "Was this person outraged enough? Why didn't she renounce this guy sooner?" that sort of thing.
The internet and what 24 hour news has devolved into, have brought mob mentality right into our living rooms.

[JerryBaumchen 1,081]

Hi Bob,

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The internet and what 24 hour news has devolved into, have brought mob mentality right into our living rooms.

It is also what brought Trump to the Oval Office.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 1,679]

Blacksmith311

But where were you and the others? 5 days later and it is a top headline in the news and not a word here? He may not be a politician but he has great ties to them, and such influence no doubt. And not only presidents or politicians have been outed here for such behavior so lets not keep trying to draw a line like that. He was a major supporter(financially also), close to the president, and president elect, in the mainstream media guy but nothing. Just very curious as to why none from the left here for FIVE days even mentioned him. It was so well known people questioned why Saturday night live did not parody it, and they released a statement on it.

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This past Saturday's episode of NBC's "Saturday Night Live" came and went without ever mentioning the embattled Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, who was by then at the center of 30 years of sexual misconduct allegations.

Many people found this odd for a show that held nothing back in their jokes about Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton as well as Bill Cosby, Bill O'Reilly, Roger Ailes, Anthony Weiner and many others accused of sexual harassment, assault or worse. (The show was forward enough this weekend to make light of O.J. Simpson, a man who most likely murdered two people.)

When the Daily Mail confronted SNL creator Lorne Michaels early Sunday morning about the absence of the Weinstein controversy, he claimed it was because "it's a New York thing," perhaps intimating that the rest of the country did not know or would not care about the issue (not that heaping on jokes that only make sense to those in the city has ever been a problem for the show before).

But according to The New York Times, Weinstein jokes were indeed prepared for Saturday's show, but they were shelved. The Times wrote, "These cuts were made simply because the material seemed to fall flat with the show’s studio audience, the person said." The anonymous source also told them that show was focused on the Las Vegas shooting. Country musician Jason Aldean, who was playing while bullets ripped through the music festival on October 1, opened the show with remarks and a performance.

Some conservative critics called it a double standard and that Weinstein was spared likely because of his liberal politics. One who zeroed in on Michaels' dubious statement was Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., who tweeted Sunday: "Out of curiosity where is @realdonaldtrump from???"

It seems that you can't tell the difference between a guy who makes movies and the President of the United States of America.

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[ryoder 1,410]

The Weinstein scandal stains the reputation of yet another upstanding citizen: https://wtop.com/movies/2017/10/former-trump-aide-bannon-had-ties-to-harvey-weinstein/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[billvon 2,473]

>The Weinstein scandal stains the reputation of yet another upstanding citizen

Woah there! Just because Weinstein made loads of money for Bannon by running one of his businesses doesn't mean there's a connection! After all, Bannon isn't a democrat.

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JerryBaumchen

Hi Bob,

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The internet and what 24 hour news has devolved into, have brought mob mentality right into our living rooms.

It is also what brought Trump to the Oval Office.

Jerry Baumchen

Absolutely! The left fell for the 'Hillary can't lose' MSM narrative and stayed home on election day.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[wmw999 2,171]

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stayed home on election day

Oh good, another smug little meme.

Remember that nearly 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but in the gerrymandered districts that have been created in the last redistricting, that's irrelevant.

The rules of the game have been changed. Isn't it nice to be aligned with a political group that will manipulate the system so that they win, regardless of the vote outcome?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[normiss 643]

Vote count doesn't support that math.

[airdvr 200]

normiss

Vote count doesn't support that math.

The Non-Voters Who Decided The Election: Trump Won Because Of Lower Democratic Turnout

https://www.forbes.com/sites/omribenshahar/2016/11/17/the-non-voters-who-decided-the-election-trump-won-because-of-lower-democratic-turnout/#14f807a653ab

The story of Hillary Clinton’s defeat, then, is not the Trump Movement erupting in the ballots, nor the fable that some “Reagan Democrats” flipped again from Obama to Trump. The story is altogether different, and very simple: the Democratic base did not turn out to vote as it did for Obama. Those sure-Democrats who stayed home handed the election to Trump.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[gowlerk 1,956]

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Remember that nearly 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but in the gerrymandered districts that have been created in the last redistricting, that's irrelevant.

Gerrymandering only affects elections for Representatives. It has no bearing on state wide elections such as the presidential or senate races.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[wolfriverjoe 1,368]

gowlerk

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Remember that nearly 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but in the gerrymandered districts that have been created in the last redistricting, that's irrelevant.

Gerrymandering only affects elections for Representatives. It has no bearing on state wide elections such as the presidential or senate races.

Maybe, maybe not.

Part of the argument is that the gerrymandering makes it so the Democratic voters are discouraged from voting at all.

And that does affect state wide elections.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[PhreeZone 15]

Agreed, my local district has had a total of 4 years of democrats elected in the last 65 years. The district last went to the Republicans in 2012 by a vote count of 205,277 to 128,188. Thats roughly 62% to 38%. In the presidential election before that the vote count was 139,584 Democrat to 137,272 Republican (single term win for the Democrats). Guess what happened in 2010? State districts were re drawn and they managed to basically take a lot of highly republican areas and throw them into the district. They peeled some of the more urban areas out and put them into a district that is now 70% democrat and 30% republican. Why show up and vote if your voice is not going to be heard?

Here are some points on that matter:
In 2016, when the average margin of victory for Ohio's 16 races was 36.3 points, the closest race wasn't close at all, decided by 18.4 points.

In 2014, the closest race was 20.3 points, while three-quarters of the races were decided by 30 points or more.

In 2012, there were two close races - decided by 4.1 points and 6.5 points. This was the last time races have been decided by single-digits.

No seat has changed party hands since 2012 - the first election with the current maps - with the GOP winning the same 12 seats and Democrats winning the same four seats in each of the last three elections.

The maps don't reflect the political makeup of the state. Republicans in the last three elections have claimed 75 percent of the U.S. House races while winning 56 percent of the overall vote.

Yesterday is history
And tomorrow is a mystery

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[kallend 1,679]

gowlerk

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Remember that nearly 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but in the gerrymandered districts that have been created in the last redistricting, that's irrelevant.

Gerrymandering only affects elections for Representatives. It has no bearing on state wide elections such as the presidential or senate races.

The structure of the Electoral College ensures, for all practical purposes, the exact same result as gerrymandering.

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[jakee 1,279]

kallend

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Remember that nearly 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary than for Trump, but in the gerrymandered districts that have been created in the last redistricting, that's irrelevant.

Gerrymandering only affects elections for Representatives. It has no bearing on state wide elections such as the presidential or senate races.

The structure of the Electoral College ensures, for all practical purposes, the exact same result as gerrymandering.

And yet they still want MOAR!!!

Trump complained that it was almost impossible for a Republican to win the EC... while being the second Republican president in a row to have won the EC while losing the popular vote.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

normiss

Vote count doesn't support that math.

So many liberals that attack females. So little time

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

mr2mk1g

Not everything is about partisan politics.

Incorrect! On the left it most certainly is.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

kallend

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Other than his actions have been known for decades but since he is a dem donor he was allowed to keep doing his dirty deeds for decades..?

No point.

So have Trump's, and he even admitted it on videotape. I don't recall your rushing to condemn him, though.

You need to go back and review the post. Stop pretending like you know what you don't

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,679]

rushmc

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Other than his actions have been known for decades but since he is a dem donor he was allowed to keep doing his dirty deeds for decades..?

No point.

So have Trump's, and he even admitted it on videotape. I don't recall your rushing to condemn him, though.

You need to go back and review the post. Stop pretending like you know what you don't

More nonsense from the guy with zero credibility.

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[RonD1120 58]

I took full responsibility for my part. The question remains, does he have the courage to admit the part he played. After all this time apparently not.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 643]

That's what a lack of response to you, here, means?

[RonD1120 58]

???

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.