Russiagate

[BillyVance 34]

Oh and one last thing... The Democrats have controlled the House for 3 months. Name ONE thing they have even proposed to improve the economy, immigration, trade or national defense?

Right, you can't. They have only launched endless witch hunts and sought to disenfranchise voters with HR1.

Trump is simply trying to help protect America and improve the economy. AND he's doing it while donating his presidential salary to charity. Not only that, the Trump family is planning to donate $1 billion to the wall fund. Speaking of the wall, the New York Times a month ago said there was no emergency at the border. NOW they say there is. BUILD. THAT. WALL. And people will stop rushing the border.

[DJL 232]

13 hours ago, rushmc said:

 Why should I quote it when the information is out there for everyone to see ?

Because you didn't start with anything specific enough for anyone to look up.  That's like saying "God is out there, just look at all the signs."

So to go one by one:

"Trump did not collude with the Russians": I agree, as it stands Trump did not personally participate in coordinating efforts with Russian nationals to affect the outcome of the campaign.  The investigation, however is about the body of his campaign and that has turned up several instances that Mueller is investigating such as his son and staff meeting with Russian officials.  You have no sources verifying the results of the investigation.

"Hillary colluded":  You have only opinions that "the Steele" dossier consitutes collusion, what's your source for validating that.

"In the next 2 to 4 weeks multiple referrals of indictments of Obama doj and FBI officials coming": This may as well be tea leaves.

 

 

 

 

 

[DJL 232]

8 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Except it wasn't Trump's team that conspired. It was Hillary and the DNC. But because Obama weaponized the DOJ and FBI against Trump, all we've heard since day one that it was Trump. More than 2 years later we haven't seen any concrete evidence on Trump, period. It'll all come out. You'll see.

You say that without a shred of acknowledgement as to how thoroughly HRC has been investigated by the same people with the oversight of a Republican controlled congressional committee.

[gowlerk 1,914]

7 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Not only that, the Trump family is planning to donate $1 billion to the wall fund.

Trump and family have made many announcements about their largesse. So far with no actual money changing hands. Over and over and over.

Edited March 14, 2019 by gowlerk

[DJL 232]

8 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Trump family is planning to donate $1 billion to the wall fund.

Wrong.

[PhreeZone 15]

16 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Name ONE thing they have even proposed to improve the economy, immigration, trade or national defense? 

Right, you can't.

https://www.congress.gov/search?q={"congress"%3A"all"%2C"source"%3A"legislation"%2C"search"%3A"actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""}&pageSort=documentNumber%3Aasc

 

Investing in Main St Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/116?q={"search"%3A["actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""]}&s=1&r=9

All American Flag Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/113?q={"search"%3A["actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""]}&s=3&r=7

Encouraging Small Business Innovation Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/206?q={"search"%3A["actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""]}&s=3&r=18

Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/251?q={"search"%3A["actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""]}&s=3&r=24

One of my personal favorites since it can really do a lot to improve Cybersecurity at the national level - Hack your State Department Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/328?q={"search"%3A["actionSessionCode%3A\"116-1|8000\"+AND+billIsReserved%3A\"N\""]}&s=3&r=33

 

 

There are lots of these (180+ passed so far)

 

[PhreeZone 15]

1 hour ago, BillyVance said:

Not only that, the Trump family is planning to donate $1 billion to the wall fund

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/01/trumps-not-donating-1-billion-for-border-wall/

 

 

Take 10 seconds and look into things before you post them next time.

[kallend 1,625]

1 hour ago, BillyVance said:

Oh and one last thing... The Democrats have controlled the House for 3 months.

Is that Alabama math?

Tell us how many of Trump's campaign promises were achieved in 2 YEARS of full control of Congress by the GOP?  Mexico paid for the wall?  Hillary investigated by special prosecutor?  Obamacare repealed?  No cuts to Medicare or Medicaid?  ALL LIES.

[Coreece 190]

21 hours ago, kallend said:

On 3/11/2019 at 7:01 PM, BillyVance said:

But he did. HE signed it into law. And to his credit, he admitted, albeit much later, it was a mistake.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/bill-clinton-and-the-1994-crime-bill/

If "three strikes" is SO bad, why was your home and deep red state of Alabama the first to institute it

Is this like one of your teaching techniques? Just make a bunch of ignorant  statements hoping your students have just enough contempt to set out in proving you wrong?

At least Jerry was big enough to admit his mistake and move on. . .

[kallend 1,625]

7 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Is this like one of your teaching techniques? Just make a bunch of ignorant  statements hoping your students have just enough contempt to set out in proving you wrong?

At least Jerry was big enough to admit his mistake and move on. . .

What is "ignorant" about stating that Alabama, Billy's home state run by Republicans, was first out of the gate with a three strikes law (in 1977) and is 3rd in the life incarceration rate of non violent offenders on account of that law?  Which of those statements is untrue?

[Coreece 190]

1 minute ago, kallend said:

11 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Is this like one of your teaching techniques? Just make a bunch of ignorant  statements hoping your students have just enough contempt to set out in proving you wrong?

At least Jerry was big enough to admit his mistake and move on. . .

What is "ignorant" about stating that Alabama, Billy's home state run by Republicans, was first out of the gate with a three strikes law (in 1977)

It's a false statement based on ignorance.

[billvon 2,400]

1 hour ago, BillyVance said:

ONot only that, the Trump family is planning to donate $1 billion to the wall fund. Speaking of the wall, the New York Times a month ago said there was no emergency at the border. NOW they say there is. BUILD. THAT. WALL. And people will stop rushing the border.

You have got to start reading something other than FOX News.

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Except it wasn't Trump's team that conspired. It was Hillary and the DNC. But because Obama weaponized the DOJ and FBI against Trump, all we've heard since day one that it was Trump. More than 2 years later we haven't seen any concrete evidence on Trump, period. It'll all come out. You'll see.

Clinton's team didn't meet in secret with a Russian agent to get dirt on Trump - and then lie about it.  Clinton didn't ask Russia to hack the RNC and promise them a reward.  Clinton's campaign manager didn't collude with a Russian to tamper with witnesses in a federal case.  Clinton didn't promise Putin a penthouse in their big hotel if he'd approve her project - and then lie about it.

Once again, you have GOT to start reading something other than FOX News.

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More than 2 years later we haven't seen any concrete evidence on Trump, period.

He has been named, twice, in felony indictments - once as "Individual 1" and once as an unindicted co-conspirator.  

[kallend 1,625]

36 minutes ago, Coreece said:

It's a false statement based on ignorance.

So which part is false? Does Billy not live in Alabama?  Is Alabama not a "red state"?  Was Alabama's " Habitual Felony Offender Act" not passed in 1977?  Does it not require that repeat offenders be sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole and remove sentencing discretion from judges?  

[BillyVance 34]

43 minutes ago, billvon said:

You have got to start reading something other than FOX News.

Clinton's team didn't meet in secret with a Russian agent to get dirt on Trump - and then lie about it.  Clinton didn't ask Russia to hack the RNC and promise them a reward.  Clinton's campaign manager didn't collude with a Russian to tamper with witnesses in a federal case.  Clinton didn't promise Putin a penthouse in their big hotel if he'd approve her project - and then lie about it.

Once again, you have GOT to start reading something other than FOX News.

He has been named, twice, in felony indictments - once as "Individual 1" and once as an unindicted co-conspirator.  

FACT: Clinton and the DNC paid foreign entities for a Trump dossier. That's collusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.23de4a8162c1

Hey, its the WaPo! LMFAO

[BillyVance 34]

6 minutes ago, kallend said:

So which part is false? Does Billy not live in Alabama?  Is Alabama not a "red state"?  Was Alabama's " Habitual Felony Offender Act" not passed in 1977?  Does it not require that repeat offenders be sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole and remove sentencing discretion from judges?  

It all started with Bill Fucking Clinton, yes, the same Bill getting his dick chugged under the oval office desk.

[gowlerk 1,914]

4 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

FACT: Clinton and the DNC paid foreign entities for a Trump dossier. That's collusion.

The DNC paid Fusion GPS a Washington company. According to the link you posted.

[kallend 1,625]

7 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

It all started with Bill Fucking Clinton, yes, the same Bill getting his dick chugged under the oval office desk.

In what universe was Bill Clinton passing laws in Alabama in 1977?

[billvon 2,400]

6 minutes ago, kallend said:

In what universe was Bill Clinton passing laws in Alabama in 1977?

ssshhh, he's on a roll.

[Coreece 190]

18 minutes ago, kallend said:

58 minutes ago, Coreece said:

It's a false statement based on ignorance.

So which part is false? Does Billy not live in Alabama?  Is Alabama not a "red state"?  Was Alabama's " Habitual Felony Offender Act" not passed in 1977?  Does it not require that repeat offenders be sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole and remove sentencing discretion from judges?  

Well it appears that you've identified your error given that you didn't repeat it in your list of questions above. 

Now, would you like to tell us why you were wrong?

Btw, nice weasling. . .

. . .snicker.

[kallend 1,625]

46 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Well it appears that you've identified your error given that you didn't repeat it in your list of questions above. 

Now, would you like to tell us why you were wrong?

Btw, nice weasling. . .

. . .snicker.

Suggest you look at Table 2 of this report, which confirms my claim about Alabama's ranking for life without parole for nonviolent offenders.  

https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdf

 

Also http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/11/aclu_alabama_3rd_in_state_pris.html

and 

https://www.criminal-defense-attorney.info/2013/12/three-strikes-laws-under-scrutiny

Edited March 14, 2019 by kallend

[ryoder 1,388]

House votes on non-binding resolution to make Mueller report public: 420-0

(House has 435 voting members).

https://www.apnews.com/e25f4c83cb61416c90f8de3b36023c5f

[Coreece 190]

50 minutes ago, kallend said:

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

Now, would you like to tell us why you were wrong?

Btw, nice weasling. . .

Suggest you look at Table 2 of this report, which confirms my claim about Alabama's ranking for life without parole for nonviolent offenders.  

https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdf

 

Also http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/11/aclu_alabama_3rd_in_state_pris.html

and 

https://www.criminal-defense-attorney.info/2013/12/three-strikes-laws-under-scrutiny

Still weaseling I see.  None of those explain your erroneous statement that we were actually talking about. 

[kallend 1,625]

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

Still weaseling I see.  None of those explain your erroneous statement that we were actually talking about. 

The only weaseling going on here is from you and Billy V.

[Coreece 190]

5 minutes ago, kallend said:

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

Still weaseling I see.  None of those explain your erroneous statement that we were actually talking about. 

The only weaseling going on here is from you and Billy V.

Yep, weasel around your ignorant comments and then when called out on it, shout "I know you are but what am I?"

Just about what I expected.

[wolfriverjoe 1,341]

7 hours ago, BillyVance said:

FACT: Clinton and the DNC paid foreign entities for a Trump dossier. That's collusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.23de4a8162c1

Hey, its the WaPo! LMFAO

 

7 hours ago, gowlerk said:

The DNC paid Fusion GPS a Washington company. According to the link you posted.

But...But...But...

 

They had foreigners do the research.
In a foreign country!!!

 

That's exactly the same as the Trump campaign making deals with a foreign govenrment. Meeting with officials of that government. Promising to have sanctions eased. Laundering money for the Russian mob.