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Trump is definitely living up to his end of the bargain lately.  After Putin helped him get elected, he has axed sanctions against Putin ally Oleg Deripaska, has weakened NATO and gave Putin a pass on their support for Syria's chemical attacks.  

And today, in Trump's latest gift to his political master, he is axing a decades-long nuclear treaty that was inconveniencing Putin.  Putin will now be able to develop intermediate range nuclear missiles without the bother of any US treaties slowing him down.

Putin definitely got his money's worth with Trump.

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13 hours ago, rushmc said:

and now we know that Trump Junior's phone calls were not to his father after the reported infamous Trump tower Russian meeting has been put to bed disposal any of that ass hats that push that out will put forward a apology free sporting such bullshit?

Yeah. Because you’re HUGE on apologizing when you’re wrong.

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14 hours ago, rushmc said:

and now we know that Trump Junior's phone calls were not to his father after the reported infamous Trump tower Russian meeting has been put to bed disposal any of that ass hats that push that out will put forward a apology free sporting such bullshit?

I assume you're using speech to text software now, which is definitely a good idea - but you still have to proofread the result if you want it to make any sense.

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On 2/1/2019 at 9:47 PM, billvon said:

Trump is definitely living up to his end of the bargain lately.  After Putin helped him get elected, he has axed sanctions against Putin ally Oleg Deripaska, has weakened NATO and gave Putin a pass on their support for Syria's chemical attacks.  

And today, in Trump's latest gift to his political master, he is axing a decades-long nuclear treaty that was inconveniencing Putin.  Putin will now be able to develop intermediate range nuclear missiles without the bother of any US treaties slowing him down.

Putin definitely got his money's worth with Trump.

You're cute when you're angry.

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On 2/1/2019 at 8:59 PM, rushmc said:

and now we know that Trump Junior's phone calls were not to his father after the reported infamous Trump tower Russian meeting has been put to bed disposal any of that ass hats that push that out will put forward a apology free sporting such bullshit?

Would you mind rewriting that question or statement?

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Once again, Putin sees a good return on his investment.  He is basking in the chaos caused by Trump's attacks against the US intelligence community, and with these attacks Trump sides with both Russia and China against the United States.

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Trump tension with intel community worsens threats of Russia and China

BY DOUGLAS SCHOEN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 02/03/19 10:00 AM EST 309
 THE HILL
 

This past week, United States intelligence officials testified to the Senate during the annual hearing on the global threat assessment. While the hearing revealed a number of concerning international developments pertaining to our American national security interests, none was more important than the demonstrated increase in cooperation between Russia and China. According to the National Intelligence Director Daniel Coats, the countries are now “more aligned than at any point” since the 1950s.

The severity of this problem cannot be overstated. It is detrimental not just to the United States, but to the entire world, with the potential for catastrophic consequences if Russia and China are not aggressively countered. Shortly after the hearing, President Trump lashed out at his intelligence agency chiefs, calling them “passive and naive” in a tweet. “Perhaps intelligence officials should go back to school,” he continued, clearly upset that his intelligence officials were testifying in diametric opposition to his characterization of Russian and Chinese relations.

Just 36 hours later, the president walked back these statements after an Oval Office meeting with the intelligence officials. In a tweet, he declared that they were all “on the same page,” but he did not admit to changing his opinion on risks posed by Russia and China, the Iran nuclear deal, or the Islamic State. His failure to recognize global threats, even at the behest of intelligence officials, has left our government nearly impotent in the effort to address our most crucial foreign policy needs.

Indeed, the report published by intelligence officials rang the alarm bell very loud and clear. Russia and China are cooperating, and their military, political, and cyber capabilities should not be underestimated. For the first time, the United States government has detailed that both Russia and China now have the “ability to launch cyberattacks that cause localized, temporary disruptive effects on critical infrastructure, such as disruption of a natural gas pipeline” for days to even weeks in the United States.

While these intelligence assessments are intended to be worrying, as they inform the country of where it stands from a national security perspective, the backlash and concern that arose from the testimony was exponentially increased by how the president reacted. The fact that he publicly denied and attacked his own intelligence services is dangerous, unprecedented, and particularly concerning given the specific threats intelligence officials were pointing to. The territorial, political, and cyber threats posed to the world by Russia and China cannot be underplayed or underestimated.

 . . . It is time for Congress to regain bipartisan consensus and control over American foreign policy. For the past two years it appears that as a nation, we have lost the shared conviction that the United States is rightly engaged with the world in defense of others who share our convictions. Standing up to Russia and China is central to our national strength and vital to the peace and security of the world.

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I've posted about trump's golf course funding before in this thread. How he was turned down by Deutsche Bank after no US bank would deal with trump anymore. How he expanded and purchased new courses in the UK, Scotland, etc. Yet no mortgages were placed upon the new purchases or renovated properties.

Certainly not the first time trump family members have laundered Russian mob monies.

Prosecutors investigating source of funding for Trump's Scotland golf courses: report

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12 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

It is not all that obvious unless you are mocking me. Billvon was who you used it on.

I've been mocking you for quite some time now ... I'm sorry, is this also too complicated for you?  Would you like to go back to discussing the Constitution? -- Yeah ... Bill is the lesser half of the "dual."  With your asinine post being directly above his nonsense. 

If that's too hard to follow, that's known as a "personal problem." ;)
 

20 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

And as Kallend pointed out you used it poorly.

What ever you say, Buddy...

You've all got quite a bit of bird shit on your (world view) lens(es)... you should really wipe that mess off.

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This is fun; learning how to use the new site.xD

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24 minutes ago, dmcoco84 said:

I've been mocking you for quite some time now ... I'm sorry, is this also too complicated for you?  Would you like to go back to discussing the Constitution? -- Yeah ... Bill is the lesser half of the "dual."  With your asinine post being directly above his nonsense. 

If that's too hard to follow, that's known as a "personal problem." ;)
 

What ever you say, Buddy...

You've all got quite a bit of bird shit on your (world view) lens(es)... you should really wipe that mess off.

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This is fun; learning how to use the new site.xD

The animated gif is quite annoying. Congratulations on finding a new way to assert your personality.

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16 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

The animated gif is quite annoying. Congratulations on finding a new way to assert your personality.

You're cute when you're angry.

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 Mockery!

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In the latest criminal investigation into the Trump presidency, federal prosecutors have subpoenaed material from Trump's inaugural committee, specifically looking for illegal contributions from foreign donors.

From CBS:

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Federal prosecutors in New York issued a subpoena Monday seeking documents from Donald Trump's inaugural committee, furthering a federal inquiry into a fund that has faced mounting scrutiny into how it raised and spent its money. Inaugural committee spokeswoman Kristin Celauro told The Associated Press the committee had received the subpoena and was still reviewing it.

"It is our intention to cooperate with the inquiry," she said.

A second spokesman, Owen Blicksilver, declined to answer questions about which documents prosecutors requested. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan, which issued the subpoena, declined to comment.

CBS News has also confirmed the sweeping subpoena and notes it's broad in scope and seeks information on donors and what benefits they received in exchange for their donations. It also asks for information about events and attendees. There is also specific mention of any information related to foreign donations.

The investigation is the latest in a series of criminal inquiries into Mr. Trump's campaign and presidency.

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There appears to be no escaping facts for poor donald. It seems as if even his favorite sport has picked up the story line on his mob dealings.The story from Golf.com

Congress investigated links between Russian mafia, Trump golf courses

"they do show is enormous amounts of capital flowing into these projects from unknown sources and — or at least on paper it says it’s from The Trump Organization, but it’s hundreds of millions of dollars,” Simpson said under oath.

“And these golf course are just, you know, they’re sinks. They don’t actually make any money.”

One of the properties in question was Trump International Golf Links Ireland, a seaside resort in Doonbeg, County Clare. Trump bought the property in 2014 for €8.7 million (roughly $11.9 million at the time) and promised to invest €45 million into it. The Doonbeg course has yet to turn a profit under Trump’s ownership, according to The Washington Post."

How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business

After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in. December 21, 2018

"The overseas money came initially in the form of new real-estate partnerships and the purchase of numerous Trump condos, said a former real-estate partner of Trump’s who witnessed the transformation of those years and later soured on Trump. “I think part of it was he was toxic to the banks. I think he also probably learned that personal guarantees [on loans] weren’t a brilliant idea either,” said the former business associate, who would speak to FP only on condition of anonymity. “So he was saying to himself, ‘What else could I do in the world? I’ll just convince people to buy my brand.’ And the only people who were willing to buy it were tasteless Russians, people who like the absurd, ostentatious gold-leaf lifestyle he has.[and trump voters who are impressed with such crude displays] You’re not going to sell that brand to blue bloods in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Or as another Trump biographer, Gwenda Blair, put it: “Trump was on the Titanic heading down. Everyone’s drowning around him. … Suddenly he gets saved. It’s almost like a spaceship landed right next to where he was in the water.”

Bold typescript my comments.

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More reading on " The vory " the Russian mafia and how it saved trump enterprises not once but twice. A book review on how the Vory morphed into a quasi-political klepto-arm for President Putin and a financier for  donald trump.

Mark Galeotti, The Vory: Russia’s Super Mafia.

Below a shorter version of the aforementioned story.

A short review Vory and its history

Trump’s Russian Laundromat     How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.

The above story details the start of the trump Vory relationship. How Russian mob money financed the post-trump's casino disasters. Into the more recent trump tower condo projects.

This is the full Amazon book: Trump / Russia: A Definitive History    That covers trump from the start to the influx of cash to save his UK , Ireland, Scottish golf course projects.

Why trump is so aggrieved about Mueller and his team: Trump’s Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime    Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.

Finally for those who remain on the fence about Mueller, trump and how trump Enterprises is funded by the Vory and those linked to President Putin. I submit that all these continuing investigations, subpoenas and directions of inquiry. Can only proceed when US federal judges approve the aforementioned actions. Based upon evidence and sworn affidavits. Submitted by Mueller's team.

and if you have further doubts here is a quote directly from the mouth of trump's friend President Putin: “There are three ways of influencing a person: blackmail, vodka, or the threat of murder.”

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3 hours ago, ryoder said:

Political operative who was dating alleged Russian spy Maria Butina indicted

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/paul-erickson-indicted-russia-maria-butina/index.html

And tonight all the Trump supporters are thinking "thank God!  There's an indictment in the Russiagate scandal without a direct link to Trump!  Finally!"

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