normiss 622 #1301 January 30, 2018 I stopped carrying and let my CWP expire. I have enough things in life to worry about, paranoia isn't one of them. I ain't that scared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #1302 January 30, 2018 Are you scared if you have an AAD, wear a seatbelt, have a smoke alarm, spare tire? Are you paranoid if you have an AAD, wear a seatbelt, have a smoke alarm, spare tire?? Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #1303 January 30, 2018 Again with the false equivalencies. A seatbelt or spare tyre CANNOT be used in any way that affects someone other than me. I can't use it for something other than its designed purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,929 #1304 January 30, 2018 QuoteLet me clarify my position. I am in favor of reducing, even eliminating, firearm related fatalities. What I am not in favor of is restricting individual rights, (specifically the 2nd amendment) But it's like love and marriage, or a horse and carriage. You can't have one without the other. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Yes, YOU will have to give up something. Come on, you're a big man, you can do it.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #1305 January 30, 2018 >Are you scared if you have an AAD, wear a seatbelt, have a smoke alarm, spare tire? >Are you paranoid if you have an AAD, wear a seatbelt, have a smoke alarm, spare tire?? If you carry your AAD/seatbelt/smoke alarm/spare tire everywhere you go because "you never know" and "you'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six" then yes - I think most people would say you were both scared and paranoid, and a visit to a psychiatrist would be in order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #1306 January 30, 2018 QuoteAgain with the false equivalencies. An AAD can affect someone other than you. They are all just tools for being prepared. Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1307 January 30, 2018 Clearly you don't understand how many innocent children you can mass murder with an AAD. Intentionally. Dude those seatbelts, you can sit up high in a hotel suite in Vegas and hit hundreds of people within seconds! Intentionally. We won't even have the smoke alarm discussion. The carnage is unimaginable. (especially without the detector) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1308 February 1, 2018 Today is the 14th American school shooting in 2018. It’s February 1st. Oh, and it's just dead kids, so I apologize for interrupting anything more important going on in your world. I keep forgetting we don't care about murdered innocent children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #1309 February 1, 2018 Today's shooter is a 12yr old girl. Damn, no evil Muslim terrorist again! In reading the story, I see the usual "thoughts & prayers" bullshit then the acticle notes they don't know how she got a gun - yeah? like it's difficult to find a gun in the US."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #1310 February 1, 2018 Just watched the first part of the NBC Evening News; they oddly spent more time on how not to catch the flu at the Superbowl than on getting shot at school. Priorities?"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1311 February 2, 2018 We don't care about innocent murdered citizens! Pay attention! They're jut dead kids! That's fine! This is America! We kill people to show how great we are. They're dead, who fucking cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #1312 February 2, 2018 normissToday is the 14th American school shooting in 2018. It’s February 1st. Oh, and it's just dead kids, so I apologize for interrupting anything more important going on in your world. I keep forgetting we don't care about murdered innocent children. This would never have happened if more people had more guns. Of all types. And could carry them everywhere at all times. There is nothing wrong with this. It can't be stopped. Cows are more dangerous. etc etc. You know what fucking SUCKS? I've got a 1 year old and I'm forced to play big-sky-theory with him in the HOPE that the statistically likely school killings happen in schools other than the ones he's going to go to. There is literally fuck all I can do about it. One single school shooting in the UK united the entire country to do something to prevent it ever happening again. 22 years on and there have been 0 school shootings since. How did the US ever get to the point where 14 mass murders happen in schools across the nation in a month and people just shrug and move on? It's sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #1313 February 2, 2018 I am sure Hook will send flowers to thank them for their selfless contribution towards his right to have lots of guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 277 #1314 February 2, 2018 yoink***Today is the 14th American school shooting in 2018. It’s February 1st. Oh, and it's just dead kids, so I apologize for interrupting anything more important going on in your world. I keep forgetting we don't care about murdered innocent children. This would never have happened if more people had more guns. Of all types. And could carry them everywhere at all times. There is nothing wrong with this. It can't be stopped. Cows are more dangerous. I wonder what those apologists would have said had the situation been different: someone else DID have a firearm, and shot that 12-yr-old girl dead. She said it was an accident (I imagine she meant that the gun went off, or she thought it wasn't loaded and just wanted to scare them, etc). Presuming away any other details that are going to come out, I ask rhetorically: is the death penalty, with no option for appeal, an appropriate sentence for a 12 y.o., for what she thinks was an "accident"?See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,150 #1315 February 2, 2018 Apparently she dropped her backpack and it went off. So whoever she got it from didn't have the safety on, or there's more to the story. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #1316 February 2, 2018 I've got to call "Shenanigans" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42914571 You can accidentally shoot 1-2 people, but accidentally shooting 5 people? Didn't know it was a real gun? I'll bet this story would have a different spin if he she had darker skin or wore a hijab. Just after the arrest there was a photo of her, but it seems the net has been scrubbed clean - she looked like your standard-issue suburb school girl. Besides our resident gun nuts here on SC have educated us on how guns don't just accidently discharge."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #1317 February 2, 2018 >Apparently she dropped her backpack and it went off. Hmm. ABC is reporting something different now: ============= A seventh-grader who was in the classroom at the time of the shooting said he believed the shooting was accidental. "They thought it was a toy gun, but then it shot," Benjamin Urbina said, describing a "big pop" after the firearm went off. The boy said the girl who was holding the gun "didn't mean to" shoot the 15-year-old girl who was injured. ============= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1318 February 2, 2018 Finally, someone was charged with providing a mass murderer the tools to pull off a mass shooting. The man who sold ammunition to the Las Vegas shooter was charged with manufacturing armor-piercing bullets. Now to see if he gets at least 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #1319 February 3, 2018 Haig was charged with manufacturing armor-piercing bullets without a licence, based on two unused rounds found in Paddock's arsenal. If he is convicted, this carries up to a 5-year prison term. No armor-piercing rounds were used during the massacre. He also sold Paddock some tracer rounds, which also were not used in the massacre. None of the ammunition actually used by Paddock was sold to him by Haig. It's frustrating to everyone that the perpetrator of the Las Vegas massacre can't be punished as he killed himself. Sticking someone who had nothing to do with what happened in jail for 10 years would only compound the tragedy. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1320 February 3, 2018 Why can't people just obey laws? He violated laws, he needs to pay the penalty for it, 5 years is insufficient in my mind. This is part of the larger problems we have with guns in America. Unenforced laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantomII 36 #1321 February 4, 2018 Just to make sure I understand the american culture / mentality. If we see a nipple during the Super Bowl show tonight, there will be a national outcry and crisis tomorrow. Another mass shooting next week will be just one more for the statistics........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #1322 February 4, 2018 phantomIIJust to make sure I understand the american culture / mentality. If we see a nipple during the Super Bowl show tonight, there will be a national outcry and crisis tomorrow. Another mass shooting next week will be just one more for the statistics........ A pretty accurate summation.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1323 February 4, 2018 That's always bothered me about America. Nudity, sex, and the beauty of bodies is bad, but murder and violence are celebrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #1324 February 5, 2018 phantomIIJust to make sure I understand the american culture / mentality. If we see a nipple during the Super Bowl show tonight, there will be a national outcry and crisis tomorrow. Another mass shooting next week will be just one more for the statistics........ That's right. School shootings are an unfortunate side effect of the wonderful freedoms American offers. Like any culture, blood offerings are simply a requirement. Now, seeing a nipple will scar a young boy for life. One cannot imagine the untold horrors and scarring this boy will have. While I cheer with my boy seeing the opponent getting his head bashed in and creating the next murderer through CET, I cannot cope with having him see a nipple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1325 February 5, 2018 We must have them follow the insanity of religious insanity to celebrate the death. Those religion people REALLY look forward to the reward of death for some strange reason. Both for the believers and the torture they think is waiting for the non-believers. We can't have them enjoying all the pleasurable and magical experiences that life has to offer. There must be pain, consequences, fear, and GUNS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
