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Just don't think you're actually going to change the outcome of a terrorist attack such as this, because you (and this time it's a personal pronoun) almost certainly won't. 99.999% of the most highly trained individuals on the planet wouldn't be able to.
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Kinda weird what happens when people become aware that they are in a fight to the death. Sure, they all ended up dying. But there can be little doubt that they changed the outcome of the event.
There's even a memorial to them. A movie made about those passengers. "Let's roll." They fought back. They died. And they saved hundreds or perhaps thousands of lives.
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kallend 1,659
normissWhy do you support people under attack being harmed and unable to defend themselves?
Would you allow someone to assault you without defending yourself?
The data show unequivocally that the risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is minimal compared to the risk of being shot with your own gun by a family member.
The data show that gun owners are more likely to be shot than non-owners.
The data show that you are more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in France, Germany, Italy, UK, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, or any other western nation with lower rates of gun ownership than the US.
Belief that owning a gun makes you safer is right up there with belief in Odin, Zeus, Santa or the FSM.
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quade***All I'm saying is I want the option for MY life.
Oh, you can have the option. Go for it if you can.
Just don't think you're actually going to change the outcome of a terrorist attack such as this, because you (and this time it's a personal pronoun) almost certainly won't. 99.999% of the most highly trained individuals on the planet wouldn't be able to. I didn't know you were the all knowing Quade..I think you have been taking a few to many magic pills and now you think your a God unto yourself to "KNOW" all things. The outcome would have been different, from what I have read, if one person had refused to let them in. "Cartoonist Corine Rey, aka “Coco,” told the weekly Humanité that she let the men inside the building of Charlie Hebdo after being ordered at gunpoint." If she had said no and gave her life instead of letting them in one person could have made a difference so you are 100% wrong...which isn't all that rare of an occurrence for the all knowing Quade
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JerryBaumchen 1,069
QuoteThis is Place de la République, we were thousands
Bravo. My heart is with you.
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kallend 1,659
lawrocket[Reply]I have equal disdain for all religious extremists, I don't cherry pick.
I don't have equal disdain for all religions. As much as you can bring up the Irish Catholics, Sinn Fein isn't really representative of the religion as a whole. Note that it was "Irish" catholics.
Why did you omit the word "extremists"? People may believe whatever gets them through the day, right up until the time the belief starts interfering with (including killing and injuring) others. Right now it's primarily Muslims in the western world, but we've also seen Jewish, Hindu and Christian terrorists in my lifetime. A pox on all their houses.
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kallend 1,659
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
quade 3
catfishhunterIf she had said no and gave her life instead of letting them in one person could have made a difference...
No. She'd be dead and they still would have gotten in.
Don't be silly.
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kallend***[Reply]I have equal disdain for all religious extremists, I don't cherry pick.
I don't have equal disdain for all religions. As much as you can bring up the Irish Catholics, Sinn Fein isn't really representative of the religion as a whole. Note that it was "Irish" catholics.
Why did you omit the word "extremists"? People may believe whatever gets them through the day, right up until the time the belief starts interfering with (including killing and injuring) others. Right now it's primarily Muslims in the western world, but we've also seen Jewish, Hindu and Christian terrorists in my lifetime. A pox on all their houses.
Valid point. I did omit it.
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kallend 1,659
One of the suspects in the Paris attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine has been killed and the two others are in custody, two senior U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News.
Authorities earlier had identified the three men as Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi, both French and in their early 30s, and 18-year-old Hamyd Mourad, whose nationality wasn't immediately clear.
One of the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to publicly discuss the investigation, told The Associated Press that the men were linked to a Yemeni terrorist network. Cherif Kouachi was convicted in 2008 of terrorism charges for helping funnel fighters to Iraq's insurgency and sentenced to 18 months in prison.
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cvfd1399 0
QuoteNo. She'd be dead and they still would have gotten in.
Don't be silly.
Yea your so right quade that shot or many that they used to shoot her could have in no way alerted the armed security guard that was in the room where everyone got shot, preparing everyone to barricade or shoot back
quade 3
lawrocketThere's even a memorial to them. A movie made about those passengers. "Let's roll." They fought back. They died. And they saved hundreds or perhaps thousands of lives.
And it was in no way like this situation. Not in the least.
While it is true there were courageous passengers who stood up to the terrorists and charged the cabin, the only thing the Flight 93 terrorists had going for them was passenger fear; not bullets.
If the Flight 93 terrorists had automatic weaponry, they would not have been stopped by the passengers who decided to storm the cabin.
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turtlespeed 212
kallendViolence is what you get when violence is touted as the solution to problems. That applies to terrorists, cops, criminals, and scared Floridians "standing their ground".
You are equating SYG to Terrorism?
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ryoder 1,404
Salman Rushdie issues statement on Paris shooting:
Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ‘Respect for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion.’ Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.
Source: http://www.salon.com/2015/01/07/religion_is_a_medieval_form_of_unreason_salman_rushdie_responds_to_paris_attacks/
turtlespeed 212
kallend***Why do you support people under attack being harmed and unable to defend themselves?
Would you allow someone to assault you without defending yourself?
The data show unequivocally that the risk of being killed in a terrorist attack is minimal compared to the risk of being shot with your own gun by a family member.
The data show that gun owners are more likely to be shot than non-owners.
The data show that you are more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in France, Germany, Italy, UK, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, or any other western nation with lower rates of gun ownership than the US.
Belief that owning a gun makes you safer is right up there with belief in Odin, Zeus, Santa or the FSM.
I couldn't help but notice you didn't answer his questions.
What is the data of being armed during a terrorist attack.
Lets take the Nidal Malik Hasan Terrorist attack as an example. What data do you surmise from that?
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Oh, you can have the option. Go for it if you can.
Just don't think you're actually going to change the outcome of a terrorist attack such as this, because you (and this time it's a personal pronoun) almost certainly won't. 99.999% of the most highly trained individuals on the planet wouldn't be able to.
The World's Most Boring Skydiver
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