Dantes 0 #1 August 30, 2014 I know that religion is always a sensitive topic, so lets keep this civil --- as in accordance with the sky-faring ladies and gentlemen that we all are. My hypothesis is that the skydiving community at-large is less religious than the general population. I intend to strengthen my hypothesis through the rigorous statistical analysis of an informal poll on a skydiving discussion forum. Update: From my reading, the best numbers for the US seem to come from a 2011 Gallup study. It indicated that 90% of Americans believe in god. This number declines to 70-80% when the participants were given the option to express uncertainty, such as belief in a universal spirit or higher power. For the EU: According to a 2010 Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, 51% of European Union citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 26% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 20% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life force". Results were widely varied between different countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 August 30, 2014 DantesMy hypothesis is that the skydiving community at-large is less religious than the general population. I doubt that's true to any real statistical significance. QuoteI intend to strengthen my hypothesis through the rigorous statistical analysis of an informal poll on a skydiving discussion forum. Um, good luck with that. You may have had a chance somewhere else, but this particular forum is not indicative of the rest of the skydiving community.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dantes 0 #3 August 30, 2014 I'm just messing around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #4 August 30, 2014 Quote You may have had a chance somewhere else, but this particular forum is not indicative of the rest of the skydiving community. Good thing too Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #5 August 31, 2014 Can't believe he took your "research" line seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,068 #6 August 31, 2014 I like vanilla ice cream - not chocolate; not a swirl. Just vanilla.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dantes 0 #7 August 31, 2014 Duly noted. I'll plug that into the ice cream coefficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #8 August 31, 2014 cvfd1399Can't believe he took your "research" line seriously. Do you have any idea how many people have come to this web site over the years doing research for various school projects?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #9 August 31, 2014 Yea I've been here since 2003, I guess I could just hear the sarcasm in his voice when he typed this with the smiley and all. Have a good day:) QuoteI intend to strengthen my hypothesis through the rigorous statistical analysis of an informal poll on a skydiving discussion forum. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #10 August 31, 2014 quadeDo you have any idea how many people have come to this web site over the years doing research for various school projects? It's time I came clean. I didn't actually write my Masters Thesis on the psychological implications of how people draw stickmen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #11 August 31, 2014 Ephesians 2: 1-10, pretty much explains most skydivers that is, those who do not believe in Christ and those who do.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #12 August 31, 2014 RonD1120Ephesians 2: 1-10, pretty much explains most skydivers that is, those who do not believe in Christ and those who do. But he's not asking about that. He's asking whether you believe it is a metaphor or do you believe it literally. I can easily believe in doing good works and there being a metaphorical god who is really just all of mankind's collective wisdom, who will judge me for the terrible or good things I do. (This, btw, is something even an atheist could do.) OR I can believe it's not simply a metaphor, but there is a real God who literally created the universe regardless of which of the various creation stories a person might subscribe to. (Which is something an atheist could not do.) Nothing really changes in the way I might behave in either case. However, ONLY ONE is the way things really are. Which do you believe? Is there a real God such as described in the Bible and elsewhere or simply a metaphorical god?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #13 September 1, 2014 You can say THAT again . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #14 September 1, 2014 turtlespeedYou can say THAT again . . . I think those posts were from 2 quades from parallel, but slightly different, universes. Each probably has or has not its own god or not. I expect there will soon be gazillions of posts from other alternate quades. Maybe not. (I wonder if they each have to register an account on dizzy, or if 1 will do.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #15 September 1, 2014 Does Unicorn count as a god? I believe in Unicorns. That's right, UnicornS. There are many of them out there in space. Ever continuing clashing of horns to create space particles to create life.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #16 September 1, 2014 stayhigh Does Unicorn count as a god? I believe in Unicorns. That's right, UnicornS. There are many of them out there in space. Ever continuing clashing of horns to create space particles to create life. Unicorns don't exist. you have to watch all the way through.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #17 September 1, 2014 muff528***You can say THAT again . . . I think those posts were from 2 quades from parallel, but slightly different, universes. That's one spin on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #18 September 1, 2014 I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 September 1, 2014 davjohns I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days. What about AGW?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 198 #20 September 2, 2014 People, what have you done? Locked him in his golden cage, golden cage Made him bend to your religion Him resurrected from the grave, from the grave He is the God of nothing If that's all that you can see You are the God of everything He's inside you and me So lean upon him gently And don't call on him to save you From your social graces And the sins you used to waive, you used to waive From the bloody church of England In chains of history Requests your earthly presence At the vicarage for tea And the graven image you know who With his plastic crucifix, he's got him fixed Confuses me as to who and where and why? As to how he gets his kicks, he gets his kicks Confessing to the endless sin The endless whining sounds You'll be praying till next Thursday To all the gods that you can countPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #21 September 2, 2014 No, and no for that matter too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 61 #22 September 2, 2014 No - I'm a Jedi, I believe in the interconnectivity of all things. I am part of the universe and the universe is part of me.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #23 September 2, 2014 No. I'm willing to change my mind if presented with actual scientific evidence to the contrary to an extent that it becomes the logical conclusion. That said, if there is "a god" I believe it is either not all-powerful, or is a sadistic piece of shit.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 187 #24 September 2, 2014 grueNo. I'm willing to change my mind if presented with actual scientific evidence to the contrary to an extent that it becomes the logical conclusion. That said, if there is "a god" I believe it is either not all-powerful, or is a sadistic piece of shit. "Do you realize that God spelled backwards is Dog?" "Just push the car." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #25 September 3, 2014 I find it strange that people believe if there's a god that this life proves said god is sadistic. He/she is actually pretty tame if you come to think about it. If god is powerful enough to create everything, s/he's kinda weak sauce on the whole "I'm gonna make you suffer!" department. There's plenty of people in the world not suffering, even ones that don't curse him/her daily. And the ones that are suffering, if you *really* think about it from an academic standpoint, barely have scratched the surface of what could be. Not to take away from anyone's suffering, but if you're really talking about an omnipotent being wanting to make people go through "hell" I doubt we could even come close to fathoming what unlimited, negative power could do in regard to torturing someone. So I'd say that at worst this life would point to a god/gods that are distant and hands off than actually sadistic.You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites