dmcoco84 4 #326 August 15, 2013 Quoteaffect, right? I always get confused. It affects me because I am 90x more likely to be murdered by a gun in the USA than if I lived in the UK. That is driven directly by your ability to do what you said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#List Ha, Yeah... affect... got me like a yawn. No, No, No... We Both Know That's Bull Shit. You and I are neighbors, and I just bought all that shite. How does it affect you, DIRECTLY? Tell me how it picks your pocket or breaks your leg...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 4 #327 August 15, 2013 QuoteThat is driven directly by your ability to do what you said. ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #328 August 15, 2013 QuoteThat is driven directly by your ability to do what you said. ?? You have asked the same question for the third or fourth time, you constantly reply to threads with multiple posts where one thought out response would suffice.You immediately dismiss any arguments that counter your stance regardless of common sense. I know Internet personalty != real personality. But judging from how you carry yourself on here, I would think you have some anger issues and would not feel safe if I was your neighbor, we had a small difference in opinion and you had access to a lot of fire power... That's just how you come across on the Internet. I bet in real life you are very chill guy ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #329 August 15, 2013 Quote but don't project your propaganda that everyone needs them I don't think anyone has said that.... Most of us what you to have the RIGHT to have them if you WANT. However, the flip side does want to remove the right of people to have them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #330 August 15, 2013 QuoteYour opinion that you get to have some shit that is designed to kill me isn't enough to entitle you to it And your fear of an object is not enough to remove my right to own one. Quote Unfortunately many many moons ago some old dudes wrote that you get to have all the means to kill people you can dream up. Point and match. QuotePeople are all upset about the "spy state" etc. See the govt is ignoring the 4th. You want the govt to also ignore the 2nd.... What is next? Quotewe (as a nation) are as violent as Yemen Clearly you have never been to Yemen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #331 August 15, 2013 Quote280 million fewer means to end life Recent reports show that guns are used as much or MORE to save lives than take them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #332 August 15, 2013 Bignugget You sure feel the need to attack the person opining much more than the opinion itself. Is that because you were raised improperly? Oh the irony after you wrote this: "You know why? Because other civilized nations have all sat down and decided allowing people like RUSHMC, Regulator, Turtlespeed, and Gravitymaster to own a means to kill lots of people is not the wisest choice of action" So I ask you... You sure feel the need to attack the person opining much more than the opinion itself. Is that because you were raised improperly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #333 August 15, 2013 QuoteIt affects me because I am 90x more likely to be murdered by a gun in the USA than if I lived in the UK. Move to the UK, problem solved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #334 August 15, 2013 DaVinci*** You sure feel the need to attack the person opining much more than the opinion itself. Is that because you were raised improperly? Oh the irony after you wrote this: "You know why? Because other civilized nations have all sat down and decided allowing people like RUSHMC, Regulator, Turtlespeed, and Gravitymaster to own a means to kill lots of people is not the wisest choice of action" So I ask you... You sure feel the need to attack the person opining much more than the opinion itself. Is that because you were raised improperly? For the record, I own several guns and I have never shot nor killed anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #335 August 15, 2013 Gravitymaster For the record, I own several guns and I have never shot nor killed anyone. Of course you havent but what about those guns??????"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #336 August 15, 2013 rushmc*** For the record, I own several guns and I have never shot nor killed anyone. Of course you havent but what about those guns?????? Well, I did catch my Glock 23 sneaking around in the bushes the other night. I'm sure he was up to no good. I'm gonna have to keep my eye on him for a while. Maybe lock him in a gun safe or put a trigger lock on him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #337 August 15, 2013 KennedyQuote 280 million fewer means to kill things is a good thing. My knives are means to kill things. My motor vehicles are means to kill things. Most of the tools and equipment in the garage is means to kill things. The tie my wife gave me is means to kill things. The pen my father gave me is a means to kill things. Damn near anything a person chooses to use as a weapon is means to kill things. There are a lot more than 280 million means to kill things in this country. Yet again, you're focusing on what people are using to kill instead of the fact that they are killing. THIS IS CALLED BLAMING THE TOOL. You really need to focus on the fact that murders are being committed rather than how they are being committed. Less guns in this country is not a good thing. Fewer murders in this country would be a good thing. Since forcing the former would not cause the latter, you're not making a sound case. And because there is no way in hell this country will ever ban firearms for private ownership and use, you're tilting at windmills. All those things you mentioned have one thing in common. They were not designed to end the life of something. You need to pick things that are comparable to weapons designed to end life. (rockets, biological weaposn, chemical weapons, bombs, etc) Removing 280 million means to kill things means crazed angry people will need to use the TIE their wife gave them to kill 20 people. Once we get to those problems, we can deal with TIE control. "And because there is no way in hell this country will ever ban firearms for private ownership and use, you're tilting at windmills." Hey I can dream of a day where the majority of America isn't crazed, gun loving, violence mongering psychos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #338 August 15, 2013 Bignuggetcrazed, gun loving, violence mongering psycho. damn that's exactly what it says on my business cardYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #339 August 15, 2013 Bignugget***Quote 280 million fewer means to kill things is a good thing. My knives are means to kill things. All those things you mentioned have one thing in common. They were not designed to end the life of something. Wait what? Knives aren't meant to kill things? Holy cow. Military historians everywhere have had it wrong for thousands of years.You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #340 August 15, 2013 Rick ***crazed, gun loving, violence mongering psycho. damn that's exactly what it says on my business card What, you took out "pork eating crusader"? Or is the image part of the company logo? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #341 August 15, 2013 devildog******Quote 280 million fewer means to kill things is a good thing. My knives are means to kill things. All those things you mentioned have one thing in common. They were not designed to end the life of something. Wait what? Knives aren't meant to kill things? Holy cow. Military historians everywhere have had it wrong for thousands of years. My motor vehicles are means to kill things. Most of the tools and equipment in the garage is means to kill things. The tie my wife gave me is means to kill things. The pen my father gave me is a means to kill things* Sorry, knives can go in the list with rockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #342 August 15, 2013 Rick ***crazed, gun loving, violence mongering psycho. damn that's exactly what it says on my business card "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #343 August 15, 2013 I haven't seen you mongering in awhile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #344 August 15, 2013 Bignugget*********Quote 280 million fewer means to kill things is a good thing. My knives are means to kill things. All those things you mentioned have one thing in common. They were not designed to end the life of something. Wait what? Knives aren't meant to kill things? Holy cow. Military historians everywhere have had it wrong for thousands of years. My motor vehicles are means to kill things. Most of the tools and equipment in the garage is means to kill things. The tie my wife gave me is means to kill things. The pen my father gave me is a means to kill things* Sorry, knives can go in the list with rockets. What about fallen branches. Dont they make clubs. Clubs were definately designed long ago to kill things. Boomerangs too.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #345 August 15, 2013 turtlespeedClubs were definately designed long ago to kill things. Boomerangs too. silly, you can't kill a boomerang with a club ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #346 August 15, 2013 QuoteFor the record, I own several guns and I have never shot nor killed anyone. Nor have I.... I guess our guns must all be defective. And that is strange since I own more than one semi auto with detachable magazine and even a few machine-guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #347 August 15, 2013 QuoteHey I can dream of a day where the majority of America isn't crazed, gun loving, violence mongering psychos. And we can dream of a day when people stop blaming the objects for the actions of people. And we can dream of the day when people who are afraid of an object do not show that fear by calling for the elimination of that object. When their real issue is the actions of a few people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #348 August 16, 2013 DaVinciQuoteHey I can dream of a day where the majority of America isn't crazed, gun loving, violence mongering psychos. And we can dream of a day when people stop blaming the objects for the actions of people. And we can dream of the day when people who are afraid of an object do not show that fear by calling for the elimination of that object. When their real issue is the actions of a few people. I can't control peoples actions. I can try and control their access to weapons. It's really not that hard to grasp unless you are being intentionally obtuse. You can try and twist my words, but it isn't effective. I don't "blame" the gun. I can simply realize that when you cannot control peoples actions, the next best thing is to limit their access to the TOOLS they use. Let them go about their actions, with 280 million less firearms. Armed with boomerangs, clubs, and pointy sticks. I realize you all think just as many people would be murdered. I don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #349 August 16, 2013 I'm a little curious here. What gives you the right to decide what other people have access to? Nevermind the ridiculous assumption that those 280 million guns will miraculously cease to exist. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #350 August 16, 2013 rehmwa ***Clubs were definately designed long ago to kill things. Boomerangs too. silly, you can't kill a boomerang with a club I see what you did there. Lol But you can. You can smash it to bits.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites