billvon 2,400 #26 January 7, 2011 >>The First Amendment says that we won't pass any laws with respect to >>them, though. >Where's that in the amendment, again? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 January 7, 2011 Quote>>The First Amendment says that we won't pass any laws with respect to >>them, though. >Where's that in the amendment, again? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" So, you agree that Fed.gov taking over a Veteran's Memorial on Mt. Soledad *isn't* a violation of the separation issue, then - that's a start.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #28 January 7, 2011 >So, you agree that Fed.gov taking over a Veteran's Memorial on Mt. >Soledad *isn't* a violation of the separation issue, then - that's a start. Provided they have a policy of acquiring and operating "veteran's memorials" that are mosques, statues of Allah, Stars of David and Buddhist shrines - then no, they are not violating that part of the law. I suspect you would scream bloody murder if they did that, though. And since they do NOT have that policy, it is indeed a violation of the First Amendment to support Christian monuments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 January 7, 2011 Quote>So, you agree that Fed.gov taking over a Veteran's Memorial on Mt. >Soledad *isn't* a violation of the separation issue, then - that's a start. Provided they have a policy of acquiring and operating "veteran's memorials" that are mosques, statues of Allah, Stars of David and Buddhist shrines - then no, they are not violating that part of the law. Good thing that the Veteran's Memorial isn't any sort of church, then isn't it? You know, tht whole church and state thing. QuoteI suspect you would scream bloody murder if they did that, though. And since they do NOT have that policy, it is indeed a violation of the First Amendment to support Christian monuments. Good thing it's a Veteran's Memorial and not a Christian monument, then. And no, I wouldn't scream about it - then again, I've seen the Star of David, Muslim Crescent and other symbols in national cemeteries - I guess Fed.gov is a bit more tolerant. That's twice now you've tried to pin some sort of fundamentalism on me, Mr. Moderator - care to try for the third strike?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #30 January 7, 2011 Quote>So, you agree that Fed.gov taking over a Veteran's Memorial on Mt. >Soledad *isn't* a violation of the separation issue, then - that's a start. Provided they have a policy of acquiring and operating "veteran's memorials" that are mosques, statues of Allah, Stars of David and Buddhist shrines - then no, they are not violating that part of the law. I suspect you would scream bloody murder if they did that, though. And since they do NOT have that policy, it is indeed a violation of the First Amendment to support Christian monuments. Are you for or against them replacing ALL the headstones at all miltary grave sites or not?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #31 January 7, 2011 QuoteAre you for or against them replacing ALL the headstones at all miltary grave sites or not? I'll take one for the team and answer this wonderfully worded question. Yes.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #32 January 7, 2011 >Good thing that the Veteran's Memorial isn't any sort of church, then isn't it? Well, neither is a mosque, or a statue of Allah, or a Star of David, or a Buddhist shrine. (If you're going to play word games at least you should be consistent within your own games, eh?) >Good thing it's a Veteran's Memorial and not a Christian monument, then. The Easter Cross is a veteran's memorial? Cool. I assume you will also support the memorial to the Muslim WTC victims currently being considered for construction in downtown Manhattan, then. >then again, I've seen the Star of David, Muslim Crescent and other >symbols in national cemeteries - I guess Fed.gov is a bit more tolerant. Yep. See, there they do not pass laws respecting any one religion; they support them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #33 January 7, 2011 >Are you for or against them replacing ALL the headstones at all miltary >grave sites or not? Absolutely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #34 January 7, 2011 I just read up on Head Start.. Ever imagine if the animal kingdom had a headstart program? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #35 January 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteAre you for or against them replacing ALL the headstones at all miltary grave sites or not? I'll take one for the team and answer this wonderfully worded question. Yes. Ok - Then write the check.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doughboyshred 0 #36 January 7, 2011 pure comedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #37 January 7, 2011 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10363/1113996-192.stm Or just use the public dollars which may be used to fund backwards thinking Christian ideals, like above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #38 January 7, 2011 Quote Here ya go "honor bikers" - defend this one. No wonder motorcyclists are treated with mistrust and suspicion; they better clean up their own house before they can expect anyone to treat them as law-abiding citizens. ============== Jury gets biker case By Frank Green Published: December 16, 2010 Jury deliberations are under way in federal court in Richmond in the trial of five men on racketeering-related charges stemming from the Outlaws motorcycle club's move into Virginia — a state said to be under the control of their bitter rivals, the Hells Angels. Of the 27 people indicted this year in the case — most of them members of the Outlaws — 17 have pleaded guilty. In a trial last month, a jury convicted one gang member, acquitted two and could not reach a verdict on the Outlaws' national president, Jack Rosga, 53, of Milwaukee. . . . . The government's evidence included the attempted murder of a Hells Angel in Maine; the beating of an innocent man in a Fredericksburg bar; and a carefully planned assault on members of a gang aligned with the Hells Angels at a bar in Petersburg. ================= Nice job of staying on topic...Nice job of setting an example too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #39 January 7, 2011 Hey dude, just leave the punks out of this. We just want to get drunk and fuck!Have you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #40 January 7, 2011 Hey now... I'm down with the latter part- but this punks been straight edge since '04 ;) Don't sport the Minor Threat ink for nuthin'! But you're welcome to take my share of the alcohol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #41 January 7, 2011 WooHoo!!! free booze!Have you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #42 January 7, 2011 Quote>Are you for or against them replacing ALL the headstones at all miltary >grave sites or not? Absolutely. Bill, once again, we agree or disagree or not.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #43 January 7, 2011 QuoteHey dude, just leave the punks out of this. We just want to get drunk and fuck! Sorry about that, I should have stuck with assholes...My apoligies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 78 #44 January 7, 2011 QuoteI struggle with tbe whole "Cake or Death?" thing. Uhhh, cake please. Well we're all out of cake!Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #45 January 7, 2011 Quotehttp://www.debbieschlussel.com/31392/christmas-leftover-muslims-get-santa-banned-forever-from-mn-school/ I'm not sure whether your very weak attempts to score points are sad or funny. Probably both, actually. You strike me very much as someone who needs to see the world as black and white (liberal and conservative). It's as if you don't have the cognitive processing power to see the world in anything other than those terms.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #46 January 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteI struggle with tbe whole "Cake or Death?" thing. Uhhh, cake please. Well we're all out of cake! We only had three bits, and we didn't expect such a rush!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #47 January 7, 2011 QuoteWe only had three bits, and we didn't expect such a rush! What are my choices, then? "Or Death???" I'll have the chicken.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #48 January 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI struggle with tbe whole "Cake or Death?" thing. Uhhh, cake please. Well we're all out of cake! We only had three bits, and we didn't expect such a rush! We had to eat gravel, and were pleased to get it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #49 January 7, 2011 Quote We had to eat gravel, and were pleased to get it. Was the grumpy old guy a Dana Carvey character? Anyway, that's what that line reminded me of-funny stuffYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #50 January 7, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.debbieschlussel.com/31392/christmas-leftover-muslims-get-santa-banned-forever-from-mn-school/ I'm not sure whether your very weak attempts to score points are sad or funny. Probably both, actually. You strike me very much as someone who needs to see the world as black and white (liberal and conservative). It's as if you don't have the cognitive processing power to see the world in anything other than those terms. Then you fail the cognitive power see what is happening in the world around you! Really sweet worded PA though, you did gain points for that, (whoda fuck ever is keeping score) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
