on the fence on who to vote for?

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Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyKiOE78yU

[Amazon 7]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you look at the other videos by BUBBASLUVA???

http://www.youtube.com/user/bubbasluva


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

To think you would use something like this to try and persuade voters....

Here is one of his "rebuttals"

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bubbasluva (2 weeks ago)
Crazy, After you get passed the age of 20 and have done all your homework and have finished school and some college, you may understand what a socialist states looks like and what a capitalistic economy looks like. I really dont think you have the ability to understand it at this time. Suffice to say, your man obama is a socialist. Our country became great by capitalism, not socialism. The depressed ecomony of russia which fell apart in the 80's is the result of socialism. Communism is a bit more extreem form of socialism. We do not need to overthrow our current form of government but reform it. What obama proposes under the guise of reform is really an overthrowing and undermining of our current system of capitalism.

Did you ever see the movie "Idiocracy"?

Please note the bolded text.. that is just funnier than shit.. Mark... is this you posting these videos on Youtube??

Queue the Twilight zone music...

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So translated, you have NOTHING to refute the facts stated in the video.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

[Amazon 7]

Why for.. all the true believers will swallow it..

They have gotten far better than Monica Lewinsky at swallowing over the last 7 years.

[alw 0]

You know, I was on the fence during the primaries. This has been a real "none of the above" year for me. But we're down to two and even if it's the lesser of two evils some logic is better than no logic. This time around I still choose to vote for one candidate rather than against the other but ideological belief has very little to do with it.

I've lived under socialist democracies, benevolent dictatorships, and communist capitalism. I've seen the democracies swing to the left and back to the right. What seems to determine which is the calendar. Last time I lived in England the conservatives held the government and the voters couldn't wait to get rid of them and get labor back in office. This time it's just the opposite. So it is in the USA. I'm pretty sure that if we have a bomb proof senate and house with a Dem in the White House it won't last, just as the Republicans didn't. Choosing CHANGE as a slogan - what a no brainer. Trouble is people don't want change. When they say they do they mean they want you to change. Oh Well, whatever works for you.

My main concern this year is none of that. I live in the world as a whole and deal with businesses around the globe. It is getting to be a very dangerous place. We are on the edge of the abyss, but not Islamic Radicalism - that's just a catalizing agent. We are nearing a shift in global driving economic basis. The age of energy is beginning to emerge. Energy is the currency of this change. One candidate is not significantly different than the other here. The issue is foreign policy. The danger is unpredictability.

People love or hate Bush but one thing is certain, he is predictable. McCain, for all the maverick talk is predictable. Obama is a wild card, unknown. The rest of the world likes what he says but doesn't trust him because he is not predictable. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan strategically place American focus in that region, but they aren't the primary focus. Wavering economies and security of energy resource supplies have a tendancy to grate on the national nerves. Add to that food production exacerbated by ethanol (energy) production and weather and you have a very interesting situation.

Who you gonna trust? It's all a matter of degrees and I like to play the percentages. If I wasn't basically lazy I'd say go for it, but I'm getting old and tired and it will be a lot easier if we just have a hiccup instead of an embolism.

So gang, what's your story?

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[billvon 2,400]

We "just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."

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I can't be bothered to watch that whole video. Can you sum up what the point of it is? (If it's something important, I'll find something to read about it; that video is just too annoying to watch.)

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I can't be bothered to watch that whole video. Can you sum up what the point of it is? (If it's something important, I'll find something to read about it; that video is just too annoying to watch.)

It points out several times with verifiable evidence that it was the democrats that caused our economic mess....

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My main concern this year is none of that. I live in the world as a whole and deal with businesses around the globe. It is getting to be a very dangerous place. We are on the edge of the abyss, but not Islamic Radicalism - that's just a catalizing agent. We are nearing a shift in global driving economic basis. The age of energy is beginning to emerge. Energy is the currency of this change. One candidate is not significantly different than the other here. The issue is foreign policy. The danger is unpredictability.

People love or hate Bush but one thing is certain, he is predictable. McCain, for all the maverick talk is predictable.

And that, sirs, is why I'm voting for Obama. Because predictability has helped to get us into this mess, and I don't think it's equipped to deal with a world that's changing.

Demographics say that we're not going to be the overwhelmingly strongest country for much longer, particularly since many Americans have gotten so used to getting our way. We expect to have things that folks in many other countries consider to be luxuries. That's nice in a way, but it means that we will work to support those things, rather than considering them to be a lagniappe.

It's time to reconsider a lot of stuff from the ground up, and someone who doesn't consider hte ground to be sacred is, to me, the right way to go. It might be a mistake, but if it is, it'll end in 4 years. I'm more certain that voting in something close to the status quo is a mistake.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I SUPPORT THE SEPARATION OF LIBERALS FROM GOVERMENT...

Mama, dear --
a. Liberals have just as much right to vote and be a part of government. It's part of what makes America what it is. Conservatives, too.
b. You don't really help your cause by misspelling government.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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It might be a mistake, but if it is, it'll end in 4 years.

Or less

Obama has zero executive experience and Pelosi as the Speaker of the House has a 9% approval rating, the worst in history.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

[wmw999 2,123]

What exactly do you think could happen in less than 4 years that is the "fault" of the President? As the chief executive, he sets the tone and makes proposals, but he still has to get a whole lot of people to go along with him. No way a president, single handed, will get a constitutional amendment passed (not that I think he'll go after the second amendment, but if he were to, it'd be low on the likely tree for it to pass).

We're probably heading for some sort of political meltdown; the parallel with Tammany Hall is, while not exactly dead on, a little more apropos than I'd like it to be.

All we can do is vote long-sightedly. What's in front of our noses will be passed as soon as we take the next step.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I SUPPORT THE SEPARATION OF LIBERALS FROM GOVERMENT...

Mama, dear --
a. Liberals have just as much right to vote and be a part of government. It's part of what makes America what it is. Conservatives, too.
b. You don't really help your cause by misspelling government.

Wendy W.

Thanks for pointing out my typo, I type very fast and occasionally make mistakes.

I understand we all have the right to vote, and we all have the right to freedom of speech, which is what makes America so awesome.... only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this.... After all it was those of the Muslim faith that killed so many 7 years ago....

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What exactly do you think could happen in less than 4 years that is the "fault" of the President?

Ask your fellow travelers (in the political sense) that - in their eyes, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault!

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After all it was those of the Muslim faith that killed so many 7 years ago....

...and it was those of the Christian protestant faith who wiped the Jews out of Europe.
Your point is?

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[MikeForsythe 0]

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What exactly do you think could happen in less than 4 years that is the "fault" of the President? As the chief executive, he sets the tone and makes proposals, but he still has to get a whole lot of people to go along with him.

Guess again. Have you heard of "Presidential Executive Orders' etc.? And the whole idea of Pelosi having a rubber stamp just scares the hell out me. Not to mention the he has zero executive experience of anything and a commander of nothing. If you think that I want to give Obama this kind of power, guess again. The other reason that I want someone else from the controlling congressional party as president is check and balance.

Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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Not to mention the he has zero executive experience of anything

How much executive experience does McCain have?

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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...only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this.... After all it was those of the Muslim faith that killed so many 7 years ago....

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Wait one second.... "Christians" did not do that! A dictator hell bent on his ways did. Hitler did not like religion at all!!! Come on.... Christians, especially Catholics have really screwed up in the past. Use one of those debacles not some random statement that is not even close to truth.

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.... .... only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this........
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There is a muslim applying for the presidential chair? What's his name?

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.... .... only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this........
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There is a muslim applying for the presidential chair? What's his name?

Do some research, you will find that it is obama.... he is simply playing christian too loook good...

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.... .... only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this........
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There is a muslim applying for the presidential chair? What's his name?

Osama bin Hussein Barack, of course.
Ah, but The Maverick's caught him consorting with terrorists. It's all coming out now.

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only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy. I simply don't understand why people (Americans) can't wrap their heads around this.... After all it was those of the Muslim faith that killed so many 7 years ago....

My God.

Seriously: you are embarassing yourself.

[billvon 2,400]

>Obama has zero executive experience . . . .

Good! Perhaps he will refer to the Constitution to see how to do his job instead of just doing what the last guy did.

>and Pelosi as the Speaker of the House has a 9% approval rating, the
>worst in history.

Wow. Good thing she's not running for president. Unfortunately for McCain, who votes with Bush 90% of the time, Bush also has the lowest approval ratings in history.

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only problem is, if we elect a muslim into office, we will have bigger problems than the economy

Holy crap, that's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. (That, and the other thread where some guy said he wouldn't vote for Obama because of the evil look in his eyes.) But I guess we're all entitled to our opinions.