Can I Jump Out Of An A/C With A BASE Rig?

[Zennie 0]

Legally?
I thought you had to have a TSO'd reserve in your rig. But I've had one person tell me that there's nothing that prohibits it.
And yes I have something in mind.
"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense."

[TheMarshMan1 0]

I have nothing to back this up...but I would guess the answer is no. Although, maybe you could get a DZO's permission or something? I dunno...interesting question....

[mnischalke 0]

Like a helo jump from about a grand?
mike
...red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me...

[lummy 4]

Zennie,
An AC? You want to jump out of an air conditioner?

[skymedic 0]

I know when morpheus guys test there base rigs at Zhills..they have a tso approved belly reserve on...otherwise they couldnt be allowed to do it....
marc
"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape"

[thrillseek 0]

that would have to be the hardest damned opening i have ever heard of!!! (if at terminal, of course) If it were me, i would definately have a belly mounted reserve...but then again, i AM known as captain cutaway at my dz!

[indyz 1]

If I recall correctly, the FAA requires that anybody making an intentional bailout use a single harness system with a reserve.
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Brian
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[Aviatrr 0]

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Legally?

No. See below
Sec. 105.43 Parachute equipment and packing requirements.
(a) No person may make a parachute jump, and no pilot in command of an
aircraft may allow any person to make a parachute jump from that aircraft,
unless that person is wearing a single harness dual parachute pack, having at
least one main parachute and one approved auxiliary parachute that are packed
as follows:
If you want to read all of FAR Part 105(which you could read in the SIM, also), check out...
http://www.chutinggallery.com/services/safety/far105.htm
If you want to strap on a belly mount reserve, sure you can jump a BASE rig..
Mike

[quade 3]

FAR 91.307(b)
FAR 91.307(c)(1)
FAR 105.43
No, you can't take just a BASE rig and jump legally out of an airplane.
It -may- be safe to do so, but it's not legal.
quade
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[riggerrob 558]

You could probably do it and live, but the FAA would tear up the pilot's license if they heard about anyone jumping out of an airplane wearing a BASE rig.
Even if you wore a TSO'd chest mounted reserve, the FAA would give you grief because you are not wearing a TSO'd harness.
Even if you don't hold any FAA licenses, they can still slap you with a nasty fine for violating an FAR.
Remember that Steve Magnuson got slapped with a $500 fine the second time the FAA caught him repacking his own reserve.

[lazerq3 0]

Hey zennie look at it this way most base jumps arnt legal anyway so what the hell go for it what ever your up to!!!!!!
jason
just be safe about it!!!!!

[skyhawk 2]

Steve Magnuson who is he???
(o)(o)

[riggerrob 558]

Steve Magnuson is an old-time jumper who lives in Southern California.
Steve claims that he had a bad experience with a rigger many years ago.
Ten or fifteen years ago he got caught for repacking his own reserve without a rigger's license.
In 1997 Steve took his reserve to Master Rigger Al Frisby for a repack. When Al found a cracked stiffener in the reserve container and several burns on the (round) Phantom reserve, he called the last rigger whose name was on the packing data card: "Dead Ted." Ted reviewed his logbook, then denied having repacked Magnuson's reserve.
The local FAA Designated Parachute Rigger Examiner was called in.
Eventually Magnuson admitted to having a reserve ride, repacking his own reserve and forging Ted's signature. The FAA fined Magnuson $500.
We are not sure which mis-deed made the FAA more angry: repacking a damaged reserve canopy, or forging a signature.

[skyhawk 2]

ok thanks
(o)(o)

[3fLiEr 0]

Why do an aircraft when you can do a B or A or S or E........where is your thought going on this???........... check out ABA there is a discussion about it...........
bsbd

"In a world where we are slaves to gravity I am pleased to be a freedom fighter"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"And yes I have something in mind. "
Zennster, if you just want to play with the canopy, you could always rig it into your 'regular' vector....Or maybe I am away up the wong track here? Spose it depends what you you have in mind....Maybe get that low hop n pop as long as the pilot lets you out , after all we hate getting on the plane then having to land don't we!!!
Cya
D

[Zennie 0]

Hehehe... OK here was what I had in mind. It's something I've been toying with in my noodle for a wihle...
I've wanted to do BASE. Problem is, if I get caught by my wife -- especially if it's a call from jail -- I'm toast. So I got to thinking, what if I just did a heli/balloon jump but got out low (like 500 feet) with a BASE rig on? Sort of "practice" BASE if you will.
My main reason for askingthe question was that if it were legal, I could probably do it any weekend they had a balloon or heli out and not worry about getting busted.
Since it isn't legal (which is what I suspected) if I stap a BASE rig on, it may as well be for real.
And yeah no way I'd do it out of a plane. One, you're not getting the straight down fall, and two the opening would be a bitch! I was even a little iffy about a heli, cuz I'm not sure what effect the prop wash would have.
Thanks all! "Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense."

[jfields 0]

Zennie,
I would have thought Blinc or some other base board would have a whole forum on "Potential BASErs whose spouses don't approve". It can't be uncommon.
Justin

[Zennie 0]

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would have thought Blinc or some other base board would have a whole forum on "Potential BASErs whose spouses don't approve". It can't be uncommon.

I may have to bop on over there and ask. I'm sure I'm not the first to go through this either. Hell, they prolly have a whole dang Howto manual on the subject.
I just don't like asking questions like that on Blic cuz some folks get kinda testy.
"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense."

[sunshine 2]

I'm planning on doing a BASE jump this summer. In preparation for it, an experienced BASE jumper i know is putting his canopy in my skydiving rig so i can get familiar with the way the canopy flies. He wants me to do a few hop n pops out of the plane to get ready for my first jump. After I do that, he's putting the canopy back in the BASE rig and taking me for my jump.
Cowboy take me away, fly this girl as high as you can into the wildblue ~ Dixie Chicks

[skycat 0]

Hey Zennie, even us understanding SO get a little not so understanding. I know when he is going, I've even ran ground crew, but it still worries the heck out of me.
On the other hand it is sooooo not fair when I say I wanna go and make a BASE jump and all he says is.....NO. No lets talk about it, no well my gear wouldn't fit you, and you are to small for anyone elses I know, no I'm an industrious rigger I'll figure something out...just a no way in hell are you going BASE jumping....
Damn men
Kelli

[jfields 0]

Kelli,
You're right. That is damned unfair. You can come to Maryland and BASE jump all you want... right off the headboard into the bed. I wouldn't even care about the size of your rig.
Justin

[freeflir29 0]

Justin....isn't your wife in the landing area though? I think that definately constitutes a hazard..."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"
Clay

[skycat 0]

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right off the headboard into the bed

Oh is that what B in BASE is standing for these days.

[jfields 0]

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right off the headboard into the bed
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Oh is that what B in BASE is standing for these days.

Well, DUH! Of course that is what the B stands for. And the S is for the sofa.

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Justin....isn't your wife in the landing area though? I think that definately constitutes a hazard..

Yes, it sure would. And since she is now 7 months pregnant, there ain't as much of the bed left as an LZ anyway. Did I just say that?
[disclaimer] Before any of the ladies vow to castrate me if they ever meet me, I'm only joking. I think it is great that my wife is pregnant and I don't give her any shit for getting bigger. She has a baby in there, not bonbons. [/disclaimer]
Justin