Keith 0 #201 March 27, 2002 QuoteBut really, he was a great dad . . . It was sad really. His kids are still messed up due to the trauma they went through when they found out. Now tell me again how great a dad he was?Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #202 March 27, 2002 Hello gang. I am at work and have only had time to read a few posts but I thought I'd add my two cents to this one:1. I personally believe the majority of men and women who claim to be gay did not choose to be so. I believe they were born that way. However, younger kids may think it's "cool" or a new trend and might jump on the bandwagon and "choose" to do so. I am Christian but unlike a lot of Christians who criticize gays and lesbians, I do not feel it is my place to judge anyone, it's Gods. Because I believe gays are born that way, I do not feel it is a sin. Yes, I have read the part in the bible that says...blah, blah, blah....the bible is open to interpretation. Some people may interpret it as a sin. I do not.2. I'd rather see a child grow up in the care of a loving and stable couple than see them live the first 18 years of their life in foster care. Personally, I feel our current foster care system is more damaging to a young child than being cared for by a gay couple. The American Pediatric Association has made it legal for gays to adopt. Just like any other heterosexual couple wishing to adopt, these couples must undergo extensive reviewing, ect. before they are allowed to care for a child.My two centsMuch love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #203 March 27, 2002 QuoteIt has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Interesting. You really believe that huh?Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #204 March 27, 2002 Great response!!! Thanks.Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #205 March 27, 2002 I don't believe people are born gay.. I believe it is something they learn to be or something they grow into by circumstance.Rhino Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #206 March 27, 2002 How have you come to this conclusion? Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,470 #207 March 27, 2002 >hey billvon, how would you know this? Have you personally done a metaphase> spread on Jamie Lee Curtis's chromosomes, or do you know a reputable source> that has? Nope, just the one article from the Baltimore Sun. I have seen no other evidence for or against, beyond the circumstantial (i.e. she wanted children and adopted; XY women generally cannot get pregnant.)-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #208 March 27, 2002 QuoteI don't believe people are born gay.. You've said that at least once before in this thread. There is no reason to repeat yourself each time someone says that they believe differently. I think by now we all pretty much know where everybody who has chimed in stands on this issue....pull & flare,lisa"But our reality is in fact entire illusion!"-Gregory Benford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tee 0 #209 March 27, 2002 Quote If my son comes home with another man and says he loves him he is in BIG trouble. Please remember that when you were a child, you didn't wake up one morning and decide to like girls. No...it was just part of you...it wasn't a choice. The same goes for gay children. They live for years feeling like there is something wrong with them because they are not attracted to the sex society says they should be. This feeling can even go on into adulthood. Today society is slowing learning more acceptance for homosexuality and that is allowing gay people to feel safer coming out (if they ever do), that is the only reason we see more of it today then we did in prior years. Homosexuality is not a choice...the only choice gay people have is to either live a lie their whole lives and never come out because society forces that upon them (how would you like to be forced to live with only a man your whole life?) or to come out and be treated as half a person without the same rights as the rest of society.Please remember, we didn't chose our sexuality.Tee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #210 March 27, 2002 LOLNice try.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pammi 0 #211 March 27, 2002 QuoteI don't believe people are born gay.. I believe it is something they learn to be or something they grow into by circumstance.That's a hard one really. I believe that, for the most part, they ARE born gay, or not. Like someone said earlier, it's a hard life, why would you choose that? However, I have known or known of some people that I wonder if circumstances kind of 'lead' them in that direction. Only they can know if they were unhappy being straight and found where they truly belong (after they 'switch' so to speak) or if they were so unhappy from a relationship they are scared so are trying something they consider 'safer'. A woman I know of dated men as a teenager and young woman, then later decided she was gay. She'd been sexually abused in the past by a family member and had always been scared to let a man touch her. These sorts of circumstances are deeper and individual. Then there are people whom I feel truly do feel attraction to members of both sex. Even some gay people think THEY are wrong and should 'choose sides'. I, personally, have been attracted to both men and women. I wouldn't have cared where I found my soulmate. If I was physically attracted to them, mentally attracted and stimulated by them, and truly loved them, it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were a man or a woman. New pin jewelry! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Keith 0 #212 March 27, 2002 No, really, how did you come to this conclusion? What causes you to believe that homosexuality is chosen? Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #213 March 27, 2002 I wasn't aware their was a rule about responding in a like manner more than one time.. You keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Rhino Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #214 March 27, 2002 QuoteHomosexuality is not a choice...I sincerely hope it is........Billions of people living out their lives..Oblivious.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #215 March 27, 2002 What causes you to believe they are born gay? There are allot of reasons that someone could decide to be gay? Fear of rejection by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more? Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #216 March 27, 2002 QuoteI wasn't aware their was a rule about responding in a like manner more than one time.. You keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Basically, it is just rude. We shouldn't have to have "The Official Dropzone.com 10 Commandments" or something. Our community depends on people being civil to each other. Some things you learn by watching before posting, and others you learn when a moderator gently mentions them to you. By the time a moderator asks you something in a non-gentle fashion, you've probably annoyed many more people than that by the same behavior.I'd humbly suggest you try learning from Lisa's comments rather than bristling at them in a uselessly hostile manner.Of course, I'm not the website owner, nor a moderator. This is just my $.02.Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 259 #217 March 27, 2002 QuoteYou keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Rule? No. Common courtesy? Hmmm...You are abusing not only HH's bandwidth, but many others time - time that could be spent reading other threads and posts rather than reading your opinion _again_.pull & flare,lisa"But our reality is in fact entire illusion!"-Gregory Benford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #218 March 27, 2002 I'm not being rude.. Give it a break.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheMarshMan1 0 #219 March 27, 2002 QuoteWhat causes you to believe they are born gay?What causes you to believe they arent?"If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,470 #220 March 27, 2002 >There are allot of reasons that someone could decide to be gay? Fear of rejection> by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? Well, all the above could be applied to you to explain your attraction to women - fear of rejection by men, tired of shit from them - all of which drove you to choose women over men. Is that the case? If you'd had a slightly different set of circumstances in your upbringing, would you now be gay?-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #221 March 27, 2002 I'm not abusing anything.. When you say something to me I have the right to respond.. If you guys want to keep wasting more bandwidth keep responding to me if it makes you feel better.Give me a break...LMFAO!!!! Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pammi 0 #222 March 27, 2002 QuoteTired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more?Oh my..have you seen the way some gay people treat one another!? I've actually read an article by a woman who talked about how catty and hateful gay women can be to one another. Unfaithful a lot of times, devious...and I know gay men who are very harsh with their critiques and treatment of their partners. And experimentation doesn't make you gay :) New pin jewelry! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheMarshMan1 0 #223 March 27, 2002 QuoteFear of rejection by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more?I HIGHLY doubt that those are reasons that someone would "turn" gay. I have one friend who is openly gay, and he will say that its not something he just all of the sudden "chose" to do. He did not wake up one morning, and decide he was going to be gay. That is a rediculous theory. "If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #224 March 27, 2002 Nice try.. Nope.. Not gonna play this one...Men are disgusting.. Women are beautiful.. Pretty simple to me.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #225 March 27, 2002 At least that is what he tells you.. You have to decide if he is telling the truth or not..If he feared rejection or if his penis was 2 inches long do you think he would tell you?? 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rhino 0 #210 March 27, 2002 LOLNice try.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #211 March 27, 2002 QuoteI don't believe people are born gay.. I believe it is something they learn to be or something they grow into by circumstance.That's a hard one really. I believe that, for the most part, they ARE born gay, or not. Like someone said earlier, it's a hard life, why would you choose that? However, I have known or known of some people that I wonder if circumstances kind of 'lead' them in that direction. Only they can know if they were unhappy being straight and found where they truly belong (after they 'switch' so to speak) or if they were so unhappy from a relationship they are scared so are trying something they consider 'safer'. A woman I know of dated men as a teenager and young woman, then later decided she was gay. She'd been sexually abused in the past by a family member and had always been scared to let a man touch her. These sorts of circumstances are deeper and individual. Then there are people whom I feel truly do feel attraction to members of both sex. Even some gay people think THEY are wrong and should 'choose sides'. I, personally, have been attracted to both men and women. I wouldn't have cared where I found my soulmate. If I was physically attracted to them, mentally attracted and stimulated by them, and truly loved them, it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were a man or a woman. New pin jewelry! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #212 March 27, 2002 No, really, how did you come to this conclusion? What causes you to believe that homosexuality is chosen? Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #213 March 27, 2002 I wasn't aware their was a rule about responding in a like manner more than one time.. You keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Rhino Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #214 March 27, 2002 QuoteHomosexuality is not a choice...I sincerely hope it is........Billions of people living out their lives..Oblivious.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #215 March 27, 2002 What causes you to believe they are born gay? There are allot of reasons that someone could decide to be gay? Fear of rejection by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more? Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #216 March 27, 2002 QuoteI wasn't aware their was a rule about responding in a like manner more than one time.. You keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Basically, it is just rude. We shouldn't have to have "The Official Dropzone.com 10 Commandments" or something. Our community depends on people being civil to each other. Some things you learn by watching before posting, and others you learn when a moderator gently mentions them to you. By the time a moderator asks you something in a non-gentle fashion, you've probably annoyed many more people than that by the same behavior.I'd humbly suggest you try learning from Lisa's comments rather than bristling at them in a uselessly hostile manner.Of course, I'm not the website owner, nor a moderator. This is just my $.02.Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #217 March 27, 2002 QuoteYou keep pointing that out to me. If I want to respond to every post in here I will.. Unless there is a rule that says I can't?? I'm not abusing anything.Rule? No. Common courtesy? Hmmm...You are abusing not only HH's bandwidth, but many others time - time that could be spent reading other threads and posts rather than reading your opinion _again_.pull & flare,lisa"But our reality is in fact entire illusion!"-Gregory Benford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #218 March 27, 2002 I'm not being rude.. Give it a break.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #219 March 27, 2002 QuoteWhat causes you to believe they are born gay?What causes you to believe they arent?"If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,470 #220 March 27, 2002 >There are allot of reasons that someone could decide to be gay? Fear of rejection> by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? Well, all the above could be applied to you to explain your attraction to women - fear of rejection by men, tired of shit from them - all of which drove you to choose women over men. Is that the case? If you'd had a slightly different set of circumstances in your upbringing, would you now be gay?-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #221 March 27, 2002 I'm not abusing anything.. When you say something to me I have the right to respond.. If you guys want to keep wasting more bandwidth keep responding to me if it makes you feel better.Give me a break...LMFAO!!!! Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #222 March 27, 2002 QuoteTired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more?Oh my..have you seen the way some gay people treat one another!? I've actually read an article by a woman who talked about how catty and hateful gay women can be to one another. Unfaithful a lot of times, devious...and I know gay men who are very harsh with their critiques and treatment of their partners. And experimentation doesn't make you gay :) New pin jewelry! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #223 March 27, 2002 QuoteFear of rejection by the opposite sex? Tired of shit from the opposite sex? Experimentation? I'm sure I could think up a few more?I HIGHLY doubt that those are reasons that someone would "turn" gay. I have one friend who is openly gay, and he will say that its not something he just all of the sudden "chose" to do. He did not wake up one morning, and decide he was going to be gay. That is a rediculous theory. "If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #224 March 27, 2002 Nice try.. Nope.. Not gonna play this one...Men are disgusting.. Women are beautiful.. Pretty simple to me.. Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #225 March 27, 2002 At least that is what he tells you.. You have to decide if he is telling the truth or not..If he feared rejection or if his penis was 2 inches long do you think he would tell you?? HELL NO..LOL Semper Fi ..... http:// www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites