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QuoteDo us all a favour will you? Show this thread to your family and make them promise not to come on here after you kill yourself. Furthermore make them promise they will not get upset that we are here talking about how you were an arrogant fool just like the other ones who came on here and announced that they were so much better than average that the standards of prudence didn't apply to them. You see we will dredge this thread up when you kill yourself and the way it usually goes is the mother or the sister comes on these forums and calls us a bunch of heartless bastards. Sometimes they threaten to call their senator and shut our sport down, but the common thread is that they are really hurt, so do them the favour and tell them not to come hear after you bounce.
Really? Just shut up
QuoteYes, you ARE saying that you are awesome ( I can handle a 150 perfectly, ........) - which is both Arogant and Cocky.
If your profile jump numbers are correct (29) , you don't even know what you don;t know about handling a canopy - get a grip and FAST
I didn't mean it in the sense that I've mastered it, know it in and out, swoop with it.. I simply mean that for the time being, aka landing straight and nothing high performance, I can handle it. Meaning there is room for me to improve, which is what I want.
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I didn't mean it in the sense that I've mastered it, know it in and out, swoop with it.. I simply mean that for the time being, aka landing straight and nothing high performance, I can handle it. Meaning there is room for me to improve, which is what I want.
If landing straight is all that you can do relatively good (in all conditions) then there's crap loads more to do and improve on with your current canopy. Or if you want to switch due to bad fitting into the container, don't go anything lower than 150 and nothing higher performance than the intermediate canopies like Pilot, Sabre2, Safire2, Pulse, Spectre, Storm etc..
When you think about it, it's really surprising how much you actually don't know of what you don't know (goes all too well for me).
P.S. Take my advice with a grain of salt.
QuoteYes, you ARE saying that you are awesome ( I can handle a 150 perfectly, ........) - which is both Arogant and Cocky.
If your profile jump numbers are correct (29) , you don't even know what you don;t know about handling a canopy - get a grip and FAST
I didn't mean it in the sense that I've mastered it, know it in and out, swoop with it.. I simply mean that for the time being, aka landing straight and nothing high performance, I can handle it. Meaning there is room for me to improve, which is what I want.
I hate to sound like Dave and all the others but you simply do not know how to handle your canopy yet.
In time you will master those skills and then you will understand.
In the meantime if you carry on jumping something that is beyond your capabilities and with the attitude that you are displaying then you are dangerous to yourself and to others.
Over the years several very experienced jumpers have been killed by much lower experienced jumpers whilst under canopy.
As you have said - we were all inexperienced like you once - I certainly was and it's not until something goes wrong that you really think 'i should have listened to those guys' - but at which point it's too late as it's actually happening right there and then!
I know that you are not likely to listen to the advice that has been given, but to re-itterate Dave's point - in all likelihood most of us here will never meet you face to face but there has been something like 60 posts where concerned experienced (and some inexperienced) people are trying to advise you to SLOW DOWN.
Whether you take the advice or not is up to you - but in my seven plus years of jumping i have had two close calls where someone else has nearly killed me with their stupidity / lack of skills and judgement.
Please find a local decent jumper who has reasonable canopy skills and plenty of patience or go on as many canopy control courses as you can.
It will help you.
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QuoteTry a 170? No thank you. I jumped a 170 after my 4th jump on AFF. I can handle a 150 perfectly, it's just the different canopies and their characteristics I'm trying to learn about. Yes, my instructors are ok with this, yes I talked to them when purchasing my rig. So if you don't know the situation, don't comment thinking you know everything? In addition, my instructors wouldn't have put me on a 150 finishing my aff.
Thanks for those with positive comments.
Just because its not what you want to hear dosnt make it not positive
Getting / trying a 170 was a positive comment !
Baksteen 84
QuoteIn addition, my instructors wouldn't have put me on a 150 finishing my aff.
This snippet has me confused.
What does this comment mean? Why is the word 'instructors' italicised?
~mom
Chrisky 0
From the edge you just see more.
... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ...
wmw999 2,122
That might have to be one of the dz.com quotes of the year.QuoteJust because you may have found some jumpers you superior to, those might be the dumb guys you're hanging with.
Wendy P.
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QuoteI simply mean that for the time being, aka landing straight and nothing high performance, I can handle it.
Any jumper who thinks that is an acceptable rationale for jumping a canopy way over his skill set is a fool.
In my life experience, people who tend to be reckless in one area tend to be reckless in others. I hope I never have to be in a pattern with you.
QuoteHaha, k..
I'm not stupid. Thanks though!
You may not be stupid but you are ignorant.
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Alot of you guys have great advice, how about you give it in a less-asshole of a way?
Because you are not listening.
wmw999 2,122
There's a difference between a freely-expressed ignorance and arrant bullheadedness. Ignorance can be fixed with information; bullheadedness generally takes an injury. I'm hoping for the first of those.
And, um, 8888888888? Sometimes asking a question in person is better than on dz.com. But you do get the wider range of opinions. If your skin is reasonably thick, there's a lot of good information in this thread.
Good luck. And I'd still recommend a canopy that fits as easily as possible into your container. Because then you won't spend all of your time packing it thinking about how much better life will be as soon as you downsize...
Wendy P.
ufk22 32
Sorry, kid, but you are a stupid, ignorant, arrogant, asshole. The fact that you are slightly less stupid or ignorant than some others you know is more than made for by your arrogance.
You will end up dead or severly injured, or worse you will kill or severly injure someone else.
Not totally your fault, even I don't understand how a Sabre 150 at 1/1 has become a conservative canopy choice for someone with under 50 jumps.
QuoteWhich hey, means hopefully they'll break a leg before me right?
Key word: BEFORE.
They will also have probably more fabric over their head to slow them down before they hit.
I had about twice as many jumps as you, with about 20-30 in the previous few weeks, under a sabre2 190, horrible landing that I almost couldnt limp away from. Took me out of jumping for a while, hell, getting in and out of a chair hurt. Couple trips to the doctor and physical therapist later, still hurts sometimes.
Its just not worth it. Not that you care. BTW: There is no fucking way you can land a 150 perfectly with as many jumps as you have. I have more than double your jump numbers on just my sabre2 190 and Im still working on it every jump.
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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QuoteThey will also have probably more fabric over their head to slow them down before they hit.
That time with the fabric over ... has passed along with round canopies. You have an airfoil, a flying wing. Not only size matters, but also the shape.
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If landing straight is all that you can do relatively good (in all conditions) then there's crap loads more to do and improve on with your current canopy. Or if you want to switch due to bad fitting into the container, don't go anything lower than 150 and nothing higher performance than the intermediate canopies like Pilot, Sabre2, Safire2, Pulse, Spectre, Storm etc..
Do you guys not understand that this is exactly what I'm doing?
Yes, I'm staying 150, not going any smaller. And yes, I'm staying on the more conservative canopies. Did I say stiletto in my title? Yep, did I want reinforcement to help me choose not to go that way? Yep.
QuoteQuoteThey will also have probably more fabric over their head to slow them down before they hit.
That time with the fabric over ... has passed along with round canopies. You have an airfoil, a flying wing. Not only size matters, but also the shape.
Sorry, I meant it like a larger canopy.
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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Yes, you ARE saying that you are awesome ( I can handle a 150 perfectly, ........) - which is both Arogant and Cocky.
If your profile jump numbers are correct (29) , you don't even know what you don;t know about handling a canopy - get a grip and FAST
(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome
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