Withdrawal

[Calvin19 0]

ok, after 4 months on Oxicontin, (essentialy, heiroin) i want off of it, doc said he would perscribe something that will help the crave/other stuff, but i told him to go fuck himself (for the 3rd time) so, does anybody have any help on this CRAZY shit im dealing with? now im down from 80mg a day, to 20, in two doses. been that way for 2 months.
help?
im on this cute little 'ween' program, so none in the morning, only 10mg at nite.
help? please?

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ok, after 4 months on Oxicontin, (essentialy, heiroin) i want off of it, doc said he would perscribe something that will help the crave/other stuff, but i told him to go fuck himself (for the 3rd time) so, does anybody have any help on this CRAZY shit im dealing with? now im down from 80mg a day, to 20, in two doses. been that way for 2 months.
help?
im on this cute little 'ween' program, so none in the morning, only 10mg at nite.
help? please?

What happens when yo go cold turkey?

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[Calvin19 0]

tried that 2 weeks ago. i shot somebody.

[popsjumper 2]

Cold turkey or stay with the program

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[NWFlyer 2]

You told the medical professional to go fuck himself and you want advice from us?

Good luck with that.

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[Thanatos340 1]

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You told the medical professional to go fuck himself and you want advice from us?

Good luck with that.

In THIS particular case...
Dealing with Addiction and Specifically Long term Use of Pain Killers... (many people here have been busted up and on Pain meds for an extended time..)

Here.. Just might not be such a crazy place to look for help/Advise.

I too would listen to those that have been through this more than a Doctor that just read about it.

I havent been down this road personally, But I have been around those that have. It is a Tough road. You can do it, but dont expect it to be easy. I wish you the best of luck.

[weegegirl 2]

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tried that 2 weeks ago. i shot somebody.

i really hope you aren't serious.

[turtlespeed 212]

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tried that 2 weeks ago. i shot somebody.

i really hope you aren't serious.

I believe it was figurative - ok - solution - pack up all you can and send them to me.

Problem solved.

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[Jaden 0]

Stay on the program or deal with withdrawal. It will definately be paranoid & uncomfortable. You may need an IV drip to counteract dehydration. This is worth your life. Everyday you continue to kill yourself you crawl deeper into the hole. You can do this... just try. IMO. Good luck, be strong!

[billyg23 0]

Try Narcotics Anonymous, they at least can give you some on hand advice and support. If you are not comfortable with their style then i am sure they can offer other avenues of support.

In the UK they can be found in the Yellow pages, i don't know what you have over there.

Turkey is turkey dude.......there is no escaping it...we all gotta pay the price sooner or later for taking that stuff, be it due to an accident or through your own choice. There are some things that 'help' but you are gonna have to be prepared to deal with some shit. Trust me...its worth it.

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[flyinghonu 0]

I cannot believe that doctors are still legally allowed to prescribe this shit! You must have been really messed up (catastrophic accident, limb loss, etc.) to have gotten it in the first place. I know that it can do wonders for some who suffer from MAJOR chronic pain but the addictive characteristics are similar, if not exactly the same, as heroin.

Honestly, go to detox. NOT your own program of detox and not some unmonitored program of detox. You need someone to watch you, and, if necessary, force you to detox.

I'm very sorry that you're doctor put you in this position. Good luck. Please do all you can do get off it...NOW.

"Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix

[ExAFO 0]

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Withdrawal...

...is not a reliable method of birth control.

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[bob.dino 0]

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I cannot believe that doctors are still legally allowed to prescribe this shit! You must have been really messed up (catastrophic accident, limb loss, etc.) to have gotten it in the first place.

Well, he spent three months in hospital after a nasty paragliding accident that included serious brain injuries, so I'd say that counts as really messed up.

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I'm very sorry that you're doctor put you in this position.

Sometimes it's necessary.

[racer42 0]

Do as your Doctor says, you'll be OK. I had a nasty compound fracture a few years ago and was on all sorts of stuff for nearly 9 months. They weened me off of it slowly over a period of a few weeks. The only side effects I had was about three sleepless nights. Yeah it sucks but you don't wanna go cold on that stuff.

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[sunshine 2]

Stick with the detox program. Going off an addictive drug cold turkey sucks. I was a mess when i tried to do that a few years ago. Gradually weanning yourself off is the only way to go. And even then it will be rough. Wish i could help, but it's a tough road.

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[Calvin19 0]

yeah, i told all 5 of my doctors to go FUCK themselves, at one point or another
see my quote

these docers took away my patient rights legaly, started me on drugs that i NEVER would have been on had i not been in a coma.
I even threatened my Orthepedic dude.
I was being wheeled to surgery, he told me there is a VERY small chance they will have to amputate my right leg. I told him if he wanted to see christmas, i would wake up with that leg. he laughed with me, and knew that i was serious, because i was.
I still have my leg, for one reason or another.
My orthepedic surgeon is the only doctor i trust, at all. that and the trauma guys that dealt with my first day, and coma shit.
but i HATE drugs. All Drugs. I dont smoke at all, VERY rarely drink, and i have gotten myself successfully off 17 different drugs in the last 126 days.
so, i will deal with the medical feild in whatever way i deem necessary.

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[Calvin19 0]

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I too would listen to those that have been through this more than a Doctor that just read about it.
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[NWFlyer 2]

Fair enough.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one as we seem to have different ideas about the medical establishment.

[soulshine 0]

I spent 2 months on morphine due to some medical problems. I stopped cold turkey and ended up in the hospital for 4 day because I was such a wreck. I would not wish that on a soul. Follow the "weening" program that you're on, the consequences if you don't are horrible. If you want more details then pm me.

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[d_squared431 0]

You need to be referred to a pain management specialist. Be very careful about just stopping and taking other drugs to help with the crave. CAll your PCP and have a talk about your concerns. I know he will get you the referral.

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[flyinghonu 0]

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I cannot believe that doctors are still legally allowed to prescribe this shit! You must have been really messed up (catastrophic accident, limb loss, etc.) to have gotten it in the first place.

Well, he spent three months in hospital after a nasty paragliding accident that included serious brain injuries, so I'd say that counts as really messed up.

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I'm very sorry that you're doctor put you in this position.

Sometimes it's necessary.

Thanks for the reiteration. Actually, I disagree that it is necessary...and so do many physicians, hospitals and other medical professionals. Hence, a national initative to recall OxyContin due this exact problem and the fact that many pharmacies simply refuse to carry the drug anymore due to another national epidemic of pharmacies being robbed at gunpoint to get the drug when doctors refuse to prescribe it to their patients anymore or when patients have turned into junkies and cannot get the same high from any street drug available.

From what I understand (and unfortunately witnessed), it is next to impossible to ween yourself off the drug. Please get help from medical professionals knowlegeable about detox and withdrawal of the drug - not just your primary care doctor.

"Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix

[Calvin19 0]

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From what I understand (and unfortunately witnessed), it is next to impossible to ween yourself off the drug. Please get help from medical professionals knowlegeable about detox and withdrawal of the drug - not just your primary care doctor.

Thanks. Several times have i completely defyed the medical feild. Im supposed to be a "3" right now, (1 is vegtable, 10 is all of us) im a 9 at the moment, was discharged from the craig hospital for severe brain injuries a month and a half early. my doctor said that it will take me 8 months to walk at all, 4 months after my crash, i was walking. (with a bad limp, ill never get rid of that ) These bastards took away my drivers liscense, my pilots liscense, any future ability to become a proffessional pilot, and gave me drug cravings that are beyond horrible. so, read my quote below. all im asking is for ideas on how to deal with my anxiety better. already this week i have packed and unpacked my BASE gear, 7 different ways. so, ill be off of this Heiroin shit on my own, never again will i go to a doctor for ANY drug at all. i guess, i didnt this time either, just the coma kinda halted all cognitive and executive reasoning in me.
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[Calvin19 0]

And of course, im not crushing the pill, snorting or injecting it, im just taking it.
so im not that worried about it, this is day 8 of only taking it at night, im still packing BASE gear, but hey, thats all i got right now.
I found out that there is a huge difference between Addiction and Reliance. I am Reliant, not addicted. Addiction would mean i need Oxicontin mentaly, im just withdrawing physicaly from it.
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[flyinghonu 0]

You have an incredibly optimistic perspective. The fact that you were discharged that early for something so horrific also shows VERY CLEARLY how strong your will is. Remind yourself of that, over and over and over. You know what you have to do and it sounds like you are doing your best. The person I witnessed addicted to this drug was not nearly as strong as you and ended up turning to other drugs....she then committed suicide.

It's clear your life has been turned COMPLETELY upside down. I don't know how you feel about concentrating these efforts on helping others (or if that might even work) but do you think it's something that might be able to pull you away from the focus of withdrawal? It's clear that your life before you were put on this drug was one that people may envy (pilot's license, BASE, paragliding, etc.). I believe people are generally more willing to listen to those who have made such accomplishments, had it taken away and are fighting to get their life back.

May be the last thing you feel like doing at this point (along with a list of many other things) but it also may be a way to continue to gain the knowledge you need about what is going on, how to fight it and while doing so, inspire others who may be going through something similar. You sound adamant about your feelings toward the doctor who prescribed this. Many people believe their doctor's opinion is golden - you know it is not and have experienced why. I would have killed for that information from someone like you awhile back.

As you know, those of us who have only witnessed this can only try help.

"Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix

[wmw999 2,121]

Work on a more reliable pilot chute system. Design it, sew it, have your friends test it from airplanes. See if you can get a better snatch force, a better throw, that is quantifiable.

Learn how to build a BASE harness/container. The first one will be shit, but you'll learn just from building it. And it'll keep you busy as you mess with the geometry and the like.

flyinghonu is right -- you have an incredible willpower, and need to do something with it. Volunteer work would be good for part of the time, but a project that you're fascinated with that keeps your hands busy, and your mind busy with something concrete might just help.

Or you can begin planning a movie about recovery from a devastating brain injury. Something that's not from Hollywood.

Good luck, dude. You might need it, but it sounds like you're making a whole lot of it, and making sure you're ready to take everything you find and use it. That's how people get lucky.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)