Gawain 0 #1 May 1, 2008 I have a few basic items that nay help, a little. Not enough to make you say, "Who cares about the cost of gas" but enough to get an extra 25-50 miles or more out of a tank of gas. This is lengthy, so bear with me: 1. Maintenance a. Air pressure in the tires: keep the air pressure in your tires per the spec sticker on the drivers side door within 1-3 psi. b. Air filter: check, clean, or replace the air filter. If you don't have a K&N, then consider one or just clean/replace your factory one at worst every 30K miles +/-. c. Oil: change it at a minimum to your manufacturers recommendation. You don't have to deviate from the type or SAE ratings. d. Fuel: if you car doesn't recommend premium, don't throw your money away. Very few cars require premium (mostly high-performance/compression or turbo charged motors). There is no mileage benefit if the engine is properly maintained. 2. Driving a. Don't use cruise control: I know this seems contradictory, but I have never achieved higher MPG on the highway using cruise control versus a steady foot on the gas pedal. Whether in my wife's 2001 Camry (avg 33mpg hwy) or my RAV4 V6 (avg 26mpg hwy). I believe this is because the cruise control units are not intelligent enough to know uphill/downhill scenarios...they just know speed, not engine throttle. b. If you have an automatic transmission keep a steady foot on the gas pedal: If I weren't missing body parts, I'd be in a manual tranny for sure, but the sad fact is that most of us are lazy...so we put in "D" and "GO". Problem is, too many people apply too much throttle then let up to maintain speed, even around town. Change your driving habit with your right foot to keep it steady on the throttle, and don't keep going "up-and-down" on the pedal. c. If you have a manual transmission, don't always short-shift: over stressing the engine in high-gear around down only shoves more fuel through the system and risks knocking, wasting fuel through inefficient combustion. Lighter throttle, with a normal shift pattern means less stress on the engine, less increase in fuel flow as revs rise. d. Evaluate speed and traffic: My commute is along country roads...easy to drive 70+mph on any given day. However, I always give myself enough time, and in a 55mph zone, I'll keep a steady 55-60. There is no time benefit unless you kick up at least 20mph or more. Also, safe following distances, and groups of cars traveling together will gain a little better mileage on the highway. Your mileage will vary and it's not an "end-all-be-all"...but it's what I've seen from my direct experience.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #2 May 1, 2008 Good points! I see too many people on the highway tailgating the person in front of them. So they alternate gas/brake over & over again in order to hang onto the next car's bumper. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #3 May 1, 2008 The biggest improvement I've seen was when I started making a conscious effort to be VERY gentle with the throttle. It was during a gas delivery strike in the UK, and by doing that, if memory serves me right, I probably had a 30% increase in mpg (I normally a much more aggressive driver)Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #4 May 1, 2008 A good one I've been using for at least a year or more is putting my car in neutral when I can, as I have a manual. What I mean is I coast when the terrain allows. There are places in routes to and from work that allow me to coast for a mile. It may not be that big of a deal, but every little bit helps.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morrison79 0 #5 May 1, 2008 You have some good points but i would disagree with you on the issue of cruise control. I just got a new car it it will give you average MPG or you can view the instant MPG. When I am using the cruise and viewing the instant MPG, once i start going down a hill you can see the MPG shoot up signifigantly. Obviously when you start going up a hill the MPG goes down. The other reason for using cruise in certain newer cars is because of the engine control something. I don't know the name of it but my car will switch from 6 cylinder to 3 cylinder during cruise speeds. If i am not using the cruise it keeps bouncing back and forth between a 6 and a 3. But when I am in cruise control it will be stay in 3 cylinder mode until you hit a large hill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iflyinmydreams 0 #6 May 1, 2008 Hey, thanks for the tips! I heard somewhere that if you crack your windows about an inch you can get better mileage. Has anyone else heard anything to that affect? Do you know if that is true? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #7 May 1, 2008 QuoteHey, thanks for the tips! I heard somewhere that if you crack your windows about an inch you can get better mileage. Has anyone else heard anything to that affect? Do you know if that is true? I doubt it, but I have no evidence. My argument, though, is that any open window disrupts airflow over your vehicle, adding drag, therefore reducing mileage. Sounds about as likely as putting a magnet next to your fuel line to "align the gas molecules" for better mileage. I shut off my engine at long lights and train crossings. BTW, it doesn't take a minute's worth of fuel to start a modern, fuel injected engine. That's another fallacy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shepp 0 #8 May 1, 2008 QuoteHey, thanks for the tips! I heard somewhere that if you crack your windows about an inch you can get better mileage. Has anyone else heard anything to that affect? Do you know if that is true? By my logic, I think that would probably reduce your mileage if anything. By cracking your windows, you alter the intended aerodynamics of the vehicle and add drag.Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shepp 0 #9 May 1, 2008 Ah dang, ya beat me to the 'Post Reply' button! Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 3 #11 May 1, 2008 Ride a motorcycle. My 750 gets 55 mpg. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #12 May 1, 2008 Quotec. Oil: change it at a minimum to your manufacturers recommendation. You don't have to deviate from the type or SAE ratings. And Find out what your ACTUAL Auto Manufacturers recommendation is. The 3000 mile thing is created by people the sell oil changes and is a complete waste for most vehicles. Most newer vehicles recommend 5000 to 7500 miles between oil changes. (Every 7500 miles for both my Honda Accord and Dodge Ram 1500 according to the owners Manaual) Read your owners manual and go by those recommendation, not what the oil change guys are telling you. Of course they want you to think you need to change your oil twice as often as you really need to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 May 1, 2008 Quote Quote c. Oil: change it at a minimum to your manufacturers recommendation. You don't have to deviate from the type or SAE ratings. And Find out what your ACTUAL Auto Manufacturers recommendation is. The 3000 mile thing is created by people the sell oil changes and is a complete waste for most vehicles. Most newer vehicles recommend 5000 to 7500 miles between oil changes. (Every 7500 miles for both my Honda Accord and Dodge Ram 1500 according to the owners Manaual) Read your owners manual and go by those recommendation, not what the oil change guys are telling you. Of course they want you to think you need to change your oil twice as often as you really need to. I wanted to say the same thing, but it does no harm to change the oil every 3000 miles. Just costs money. So, if people are into that, who am I to pee in their Cheerios... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #14 May 1, 2008 Quote I wanted to say the same thing, but it does no harm to change the oil every 3000 miles. Just costs money. So, if people are into that, who am I to pee in their Cheerios... Long as people know that it isnt really needed, If they want to waste their money.. Hey.. It IS their money. More power to them. Sadly most people have been led to believe that 3 Month or 3000 miles is what they are supposed to be doing. That is generally not true. RTFM People. RTFM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidB 0 #15 May 1, 2008 40-50 years ago, 3000 mile oil changes were necessary for a number of reasons, the least of which are; oils didn't contain the detergents they do today, & engines were not near as efficient, or machined/assembled as well (as tight) as they are today. If you're feeling adventurous, over-inflate your tires (never exceed the pressure printed on the tire!) to reduce rolling resistance. Beware!!! If your tires are more than half worn it could get quite "interesting" in the rain! I ran my truck (04 Colorado) 2600 miles last year on vacation. Factory says it should get 14-23MPG (3.5l, auto trans, 4WD, extended cab, 3.73:1 gears). By over-inflating the tires 5psi, keeping the windows closed (one was CRACKED open maybe 1/2"), using the A/C about half the time, using the cruise control when practical (not in heavy traffic or in the mountains), & (MOST IMPORTANTLY!) keeping a light right foot, I averaged 25.8MPG for the trip! Trouble is, I can't say how much of this is due to the gentle driving habits & how much is due to porting the factory air box & playing with the timing in the computer. All I know is in my usual short-trip driving (2-4 miles round trip) I average around 17-19MPG.When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #16 May 1, 2008 Carry as little in your trunk as possible, for every 100 lbs of 'junk in your trunk' it reduces your gas consumption by 1mpg.The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #17 May 1, 2008 I think Straight Dope did an article where they showed that windows/AC didn't make much of a difference. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 0 #18 May 1, 2008 While I agree with less weight improving mileage, 1 mpg/100 lbs isn't true. For one thing my work van would be rated in gal/mile. You think having an extra person in your vehicle will reduce your mileage by 1.5 or more MPG? Anyway effects from one vehicle to another will vary widely, not to mention variation in the same model due to differences in maintenance. Learn to be happy. You can't be there for anybody else in life if you can't learn to be there for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #19 May 1, 2008 QuoteWhile I agree with less weight improving mileage, 1 mpg/100 lbs isn't true. For one thing my work van would be rated in gal/mile. You think having an extra person in your vehicle will reduce your mileage by 1.5 or more MPG? Anyway effects from one vehicle to another will vary widely, not to mention variation in the same model due to differences in maintenance. I stand corrected, that should have been 1-2% not mpg... my badThe only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #20 May 1, 2008 Also, if you have a pickup truck, keeping the tailgate closed v. down/open is better for mileage. If left open (what I always thought), a massive burble is made just behind the cockpit adding mucho drag...... Saw it on MythBusters! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akjmpplt 0 #21 May 1, 2008 Quote My argument, though, is that any open window disrupts airflow over your vehicle, adding drag, therefore reducing mileage. Well, if if you have the fan on high perhaps it will increase mileage by reducing drag...kind of like a "blown wing" concept. SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #22 May 1, 2008 Quote Well, if if you have the fan on high perhaps it will increase mileage by reducing drag...kind of like a "blown wing" concept. Hmmm.Umm, I think that's highly unlikely, but interesting stretch of hypothesis. How about vortex generators all over the roof to keep your flow attached? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,410 #23 May 1, 2008 Quote Quote Well, if if you have the fan on high perhaps it will increase mileage by reducing drag...kind of like a "blown wing" concept. Hmmm.Umm, I think that's highly unlikely, but interesting stretch of hypothesis. How about vortex generators all over the roof to keep your flow attached? And a fresh wax job to cut down that parasitic drag."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluepill 0 #24 May 2, 2008 QuoteA good one I've been using for at least a year or more is putting my car in neutral when I can, as I have a manual. What I mean is I coast when the terrain allows. There are places in routes to and from work that allow me to coast for a mile. It may not be that big of a deal, but every little bit helps. That may work where you dont need to reduce speed, but when slowing down in a manual it is ALWAYS best to have the car in gear. This is beacuse when the throttle is not applied when the car is in gear, NO fuel is used. Hwoever, if you stick it in neutral whilse slowing down then the engine will use fuel on tick over, which can add up to quite alot. BP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #25 May 2, 2008 Quote Ride a motorcycle. My 750 gets 55 mpg. Walk. My feet get 5 miles per meal. Ride a bike. Bikes get about 10 miles per meal. Food is cheaper than gas... for now anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites