The Pilot canopy and bad/hard openings

[Thanatos340 1]

I only have about 130 Jumps on my Pilot 188 (Loaded at +/- 1 to 1) but all of them so far have been Soft, Staged, Predictable Openings.

Every Pilot Owner that I have talked to has said the same thing. The Canopy is Known for GREAT Smooth, Soft openings.

[Fab 0]

With 850 jumps I won't blame packing .

Have around 150 jumps on the pilot and I have never had a hard opening regardless how fast I packed. Maybe the slider wasn't all the way up??

I just jumped a sabre2 for the first time and had the softest/slowest opening ever. I heard people saying that this chute (SA2) can open rather quickly.

Did you have any hard openings on the pilot and if so..how many?

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[HydroGuy 0]

My only real slammer was on a Pilot 168...not sure if it was packing or bad luck. Other than that one insta-canopy, no complaints.

Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary

[billvon 2,404]

>I just jumped a sabre2 for the first time and had the softest/slowest opening ever.

Yeah, I have had good luck with the S2 as well. From anecdotal evidence, though, it seems a bit more prone to 'rogue' openings.

[skreamer 1]

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From anecdotal evidence, though, it seems a bit more prone to 'rouge' openings.

What, they open so hard they make you see red?

[pincheck 0]

none yet

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[NelKel 0]

No, I own a Pilot 132 and have never had a bad opening, I chose the canopy because I jump camera, and have about 400 jumps on Sabre2 150.
I find the Pilot to snivel a bit longer/ big slider. I not interested in longer swoops, or harder dives. I am happy with the performance of the Pilot, but was courious because of the other thread Sabre2 vs. Pilot. I wanted to start another thread away from the heated controversy, and ask if anyone had ever had a bad opening. The answer is yes, but they all attribute it to there own packing. Thanks every one.

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[lilchief 0]

First: i S U C K at packing my Pilot 210. It still has only 38 jumps on it and I sometimes call it a B****.

Anyway, I've had several off heading and a couple of hard openings. All my fault due to lousy packjobs. However, a detail I discovered last time i jumped was the the mid-3-ring that is supposed to reduce the cut-away force on the cables, tend to shift 45 degrees when I'm taking my rigg of. It took me only 20 jumps to realize that! That's probably why I got so many off heading openings.

The times I had some one else pack my pilot, the openings felt like cream

God I'm stupid

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[nathaniel 0]

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considering how huge the slider is.

I've got about 2 jumps on my new pilot and no issues yet. The slider is HUGE. Much larger than the slider on my old Sabre-1 that's 2 sizes bigger, and which always opened briskly but not painfully, except once before I started jumping a wingsuit Also the slider on the pilot seems relatively long / thin compared to the shape of the slider on the sabre-1. I wonder if that contributes to on-heading openings.

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

[freakyrat 1]

Not at all. Great openings on my 124.

Chris

[Feeblemind 1]

Just one, but it was due to poor body position. The rest have been truly awesome.


Phil

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[GQ_jumper 4]

I've put about 200 jumps on my pilot and had two slammers, one was because i didn't fully come out of my track, and the other i have no clue what caused it, but just after it started to snivel one side of the canopy slammed open and spun me around pretty quick.

other than those two i love the openings on my pilot.

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[RossDagley 0]

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Its the best opening canopy that I have ever jumped, and it doesn't burn up a lot of altitude.

Agreed with the opening, but interested to hear you say it doesn't burn up a lot of altitude. What are you implying *is* a lot? I get about an 800ft snivel (IE, throw at 3k, in the saddle at 2-2.1k).

The nicest openings I've ever had were hop and pops from 3k - sub terminal if it wasn't for the rustling above my head, I'd not know I was slowing down its that soft

[Zoter 0]

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Has anyone ever experienced a bad/ hard or unusual opening on Aerodyne Pilot, Thank you

When its been Staff Packed.....yes I have had a few 'brisk' openings that spun a little.

When I have packed it pretty much on heading and soft openings....
In the pro pack...when its time to cacoon the packjob
I grab all the seam tapes for the nose 'twist my wrist ' inwards to just turn the nose inlets inwards and then let it hang...and close up the packjob....

I have experimented with other variations in packing the nose.....this one gives me the most consistant results

[proswooper 2]

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Yah, my first jump on a demo pilot was the worst opening i've ever had,slmmed open,4 line twist and slight diving turn. closest to cutting away as well. I think it might have been really bad packing after that it opened alright.

Generally if a canopy opens hard consistently you can blame the canopy. if it opens hard once in a blue moon you could attribute it to some other externality. I have a few hundred pilot jumps on various sizes loaded from 1.2 - 2.3 and have had only smooth consistent openings. I also have several bird man jumps and they also have been nothing but pleasant. Hope this helps

Blue ones

Paul

[GQ_jumper 4]

In the pro pack...when its time to cacoon the packjob
I grab all the seam tapes for the nose 'twist my wrist ' inwards to just turn the nose inlets inwards and then let it hang...and close up the packjob....

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I've always found the rolling the nose didn't do much of anything on my openings with the pilot, could just be the way i do it though. Personally my trick for really making the openings nice is when i roll the cacoon it and go to roll the tail i use two hands, one about halfway down the canopy and the other right at the top, where the lines dissapear into the packjob. i i give it 3-4 good twists at both places then with my lower hand pull the twists down so they are tight. my openings have been so smooth since i started doing this, almost to the point o being too slow when i'm opening sub terminal.

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[phoenixlpr 0]

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In the pro pack...when its time to cacoon the packjob
I grab all the seam tapes for the nose 'twist my wrist ' inwards to just turn the nose inlets inwards and then let it hang...and close up the packjob....

I leave the nose where it is and pull the slider a bit in the direction of the nose. I had just soft openings.

[tazidog 0]

I have about 80 jumps on my Pilot 210. I've one really hard opening. Arch, reach, throw...HELLO canopy. It snapped me so hard that I thought I had broken my back...couldn't move my neck for about 3 days. Now that I roll, and roll, and roll it before stuffing it in the bag, there's no problem. I used a packer a couple of weeks ago in Florida. Not quite enough rolling, so the openings were a bit snappier than I liked!

[MikeGerwig 0]

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No I only have 50 jumps on my 168

[phoenixlpr 0]

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I've one really hard opening. Arch, reach, throw...HELLO canopy.

Do I get it right? Was it a low delay hop'n'pop?

[MikeGerwig 0]

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No..............but I only have 50+ jumps on mine However they are " Just get it in the bag " pack jobs. My 168 Pilot has 100+ jumps on it now and it's going into a 135/150 bag for a Javilin J2 container. so ever one is an experence for me. I've had line twist but no hard openings