Slyde 0 #1 June 15, 2009 Say you want a revolution. Well you know. We all want to change the world. Ask me for a contribution. Well you know. I keep doing what I can. But if you go carrying pictures of Jay Stokes know, you ain't gonna make it bend over like Randy O And you know it's gonna BE eDo, eDo yeah And you know it's gonna be eDo Edo yeah!A Peace Prize within minutes of Bombing the Moon. Coincidence? "Beware the Military Industrial Complex." You GO Ike! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #2 June 15, 2009 ?????????????????????????????????????????? 59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #3 June 15, 2009 You haven't seen any of his posts and know the story? He was kicked out of USPA and now has an ax to grind. I thought he had been banned, I guess it was only temporary. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #4 June 15, 2009 Someone please tell me what eDo means."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #5 June 15, 2009 i think it's a fast food japanese noodle place. they're in all the big malls in canada. mmmmm, edo."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerRoo 0 #6 June 15, 2009 love the avitar (I.C.D#2 VP) ""I'm good with my purple penis straw" ~sky mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #7 June 15, 2009 Is there a hidden meaning or a message that supposed to make sense? Or just rambling, someone saying "I am here, pay attention to me"? O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedude325 0 #8 June 15, 2009 how dare you defile that song?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 June 15, 2009 QuoteIs there a hidden meaning or a message that supposed to make sense? Or just rambling, someone saying "I am here, pay attention to me"? O POWER TO THE PEE POLE!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerRoo 0 #10 June 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteIs there a hidden meaning or a message that supposed to make sense? Or just rambling, someone saying "I am here, pay attention to me"? O POWER TO THE PEE POLE! figured you were going to say peep hole (I.C.D#2 VP) "<3 ..Looks like breasts coming out of an ice cream cone. Mmmm."~John Mitchell "I'm good with my purple penis straw" ~sky mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #11 June 15, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Is there a hidden meaning or a message that supposed to make sense? Or just rambling, someone saying "I am here, pay attention to me"? O POWER TO THE PEE POLE! figured you were going to say peep hole But i don't HAVE one of those!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #12 June 15, 2009 QuoteHe was kicked out of USPA and now has an ax to grind. I've seen his posts. Why did he get kicked out? And what the fuck is eDo onward? Taurochomy isn't the answer I'm looking for."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #13 June 15, 2009 Slyde has issues with jump pilots being required to undergo backround checks if they're flying above the TSA limit of 3500' above a public gathering. Seems he voiced his opinion a bit harshly to TSA, FAA, USPA and who knows who else, but someone got their dander up & banned him for "conduct unbecoming a skydiver." Search his posts for a clearer picture.A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #14 June 15, 2009 See my reply to DJL A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #15 June 15, 2009 Quote See my reply to DJL Got it ... I'm still working on finding my way around O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,341 #16 June 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteHe was kicked out of USPA and now has an ax to grind. I've seen his posts. Why did he get kicked out? And what the fuck is eDo onward? Taurochomy isn't the answer I'm looking for. You have to go back to the first Thread in this whole soap opera. If you jump to Post #54 you can see he was investigated by the FBI for apparent threats against the FAA. Post #54 includes his (claimed) signed statement to the FBI. The whole mess got less and less coherent from there. Although the Alice's Restaurant references were kinda cool."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #17 June 15, 2009 QuoteAlthough the Alice's Restaurant references were kinda cool. Except that in this case it's not "The Man" going off the deep end, losing their marbles, having their cheese slide off the cracker."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pontiacgtp00 0 #18 June 15, 2009 these threads are great, we love you slyde Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 June 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteAlthough the Alice's Restaurant references were kinda cool. Except that in this case it's not "The Man" going off the deep end, losing their marbles, having their cheese slide off the cracker. But are there any color glossy photographs, with a paragraph on the back of each one?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #20 June 15, 2009 >Someone please tell me what eDo means. it means; Frustrated to the point where made up acronyms are typed so that the little people have to waste their time trying to figure out what genius is being communicated cuz it's THAT IMPORTANT. -only in the authors completely self absorbed worldshit did I type that out loud Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #21 June 15, 2009 I think you belong in an institution Well you know We're all fucked up in the head You tell us it's the constitution Well you know You better free your mind instead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #22 June 15, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Although the Alice's Restaurant references were kinda cool. Except that in this case it's not "The Man" going off the deep end, losing their marbles, having their cheese slide off the cracker. But are there any 8 x 10 color glossy photographs, with a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was? Fixed it for you!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #23 June 15, 2009 QuoteSomeone please tell me what eDo means. Here you go, in Slyde's own words:I wrote immediate via email to my national organization for assistance, to the USPA Director of Government Relations, to a man who I thought was my friend. He clearly is not my friend. His name is Randy Ottinger also known as Randy O. The subject line on that email (attached) is “Screaming Pissed.” I believe it is important to note here that Randy and I were novice jumpers together in 1979 and very proud members of the Pelican Skydivers of Ridgely, MD, home of Pelicanland Skydiving. The Pelicans at that time were the oldest skydiving club in continuous existence on the planet. Their members included very many legendary parachutists, most notably the late Mr. Bill Ottley. Bill passed recently. (It was my honor to push him in his wheelchair for a time at the Kitty Hawk celebration for the Wright Brothers Centennial where we performed a display of 100 skydivers descending at once.) Ottley served approximately 18 years as Executive Director for the USPA. There is additional reason that I feel, or used to feel of Randy – “the little O” - as my friend. Here are some of those. The little O was recently hired by USPA as director of government relations. His predecessor in that role is Ed “Eddie” Scott. (Combining “Ed” and “o” I invented the watermark on this statement. A short poem I wrote is known only to Eddie and Randy’s peers – make that employers – on the board of directors in that volunteer organization.) Ed Scott was promoted to the position of executive director and is tasked with hiring or firing his little O, or any subsequent director of government relations.So, "edo" is a reference to Ed Scott and Randy Ottinger, who have been or are in charge of USPA government relations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #24 June 15, 2009 Thanks, JR. It's like fuckin' Davinci Code, unravelling all these mysteries."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #25 June 15, 2009 He explains why he got kicked out like this: Yes, I will elaborate. What I did to get thrown out was write more than 70 emails complaining with increasing audacity and ferocity about the behavior of the USPA headquarters staff, beginning with the new Director of Government Relations. Government Realtions is a service of importance to skydiving entertainers because we have allowed USPA to become recognized as the experts in the field and worthy of respect from the aviation industry in general and FAA in particular. Today I'm ashamed of that reality. I work with more than 30 FAA offices in an average season and have written thousands of documents and hundreds of letters to make the red-tape that come with skydiving performances easier for both the performer and the FAA safety inspector who must process the documents. Our previous Director of Government Relations knows this is true and knows of my wide raport with FAA wearing many hats including DPRE for more than 13 years. Undergraduate studies at Purdue taught me much about FAA. My BS degree is in Aviation Technology. I hold A&P and pilot certificates and was admitted to Master's Degree too at Purdue in technology teaching pursuits. The original issue that touched off this campaign is that TSA (Transportation Security Administration) has agreed with me THREE times that a pilot does NOT need a background check if he will not penetrate a TFR during a jump flight over a major sporting event. The jumper DOES need the check. No argument there. Last season, FAA took over final vetting of the TSA Waiver process. They did so rather clumsily with a new "BETA" website for applicants to apply. Clumsy means there was no transition between the established application process and the new "BETA" process. Beta means in general terms "almost ready for prime time but still up for review or repair." The new site is easy to use and the process efficient, BUT. When the new BETA system refused to allow my waiver without subjecting my pilot to a background check I SPOKE OUT instantly. Here we go for the FOURTH time on this issue, I thought. When I called FAA, I was scolded by a belligerent pair at FAA Security named Kerry Fleming and Brian Throop. Once scolded, I was angry and turned to USPA for help. Not only did the new director, nor his boss, nor any member of the board have a clue what the problem was, but the new director, a 30-yr. friend and peer in the industry replied but once in insultingly curt language and then immediately stopped all service or replies thereafter. Research will show this is not uncharacteristic for your new representative. We have a problem here. When so called industry leaders chose to ignore the most experienced and professional experts and then spend substantial resources and time - your dues money at work - to undermine and discredit the expert in order to mask their own ignorance ... well, we just aren't getting anywhere, gang. We are moving backwards. I flamed out on this guy and I will stop when he quits this job or gets a clue. It is the least I can do for the common good. We simply cannot play the way this staff plays now. We are a tiny, tiny swarm of gnats in the big aviation eco-system. Until we play nice and start sharing our crayons, using all the tools for productive progress, we will remain a spoiled bunch of cry babies who deserve to be regulated out of existence. Share your crayons, boys & girls. It makes a nicer picture. Child's play comes with temper tantrums. I have staged one for entertainment using grown-up straight-from-the-packing-area get-down-and-get-nasty call-a-spade-a-spade language. It is language we would scarcely notice with more than a guffaw on the DZ. When you get a new business card or a brass plaque on your desk, should you stop allowing your friends to treat you like they always would before? I think not. And please, tell your Regional Director that USPA needs all the help it can get. Tossing out a full-time professional skydiving entertainer who writes prolifically and who will have no choice but to spend the next few years explaining to dozens of FAA offices that the professional weakness of the USPA became unbearable ... well. Why NOT pay higher dues in this economy? USPA is voluntary. Do we have enough experts to form a recognizable splinter group. A think tank perhaps? A watchdog? Several have said "so what?" "Why not just check your pilot?" Try producing 75 performances per year? Then you will know. Try producing one 500-way performance. Then 500 of us will know. Today it seems, only me and a bunch of aviators who fly at big events can see how blind your leadership stubbornly insists on remaining. Something is really wrong here. Do you REALLY need Uncle Sam telling you how to skydive? Does Uncle Sam even know how? Ask your local demo expert whether Uncle Sam knows anything about skydiving. Ask your jump pilot whether Uncle Sam knows anything about skydiving. Ask your LOCAL FAA office whether THEY know anything about skydiving. On the local level, the department of your Federal Government that is grudgingly tasked with dealing with skydivers is known collectively as the FLIGHT STANDARDS Division. There's ONE guy in the whole division who has knowledge on demo jumps. One guy. Here's the link: http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/ You can find your local FSDO very easily here. That stands for Flight Standards District Office and we ALL pronounce it Fizz Dough. (More on dough later, Jay.) You can call them up. Try this. Look up your local FSDO using the link above. When you call, you will have to negotiate through a call tree and you want to get to the "Operations Supervisor on Duty." When you find him or her, be polite, and ask if there is a person there who "usually" handles parachuting issues regarding parachute "OPERATIONS." (Not jump aircraft. Aircraft issues are handled by the "AIRWORTHINESS" guys. Then ask them anything that comes to mind ... like ... oh ... say ... "What can you tell me about the US PAyrachute Association? Do you think they know what they are doing?" In a flat world, in a wink-ee-peed-eee-ahh type environment ... we don't need no stinking government telling us what to do. We just need to pay the salaries of the chosed few. Right Ed? Right Randy? Right Lee? Right Jay? Right Glen? How bout a little bj among friends, Randy? Bend over members. You have a new director masagging your uncle's heads. His name is not Peter. Hope that helps. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
