kallend 1,345 #1 February 9, 2013 lifehacker.com/5982630/beware-of-the-ikea-effect-aka-being-biased-towards-your-own-ideas... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 876 #2 February 9, 2013 Hi John, Well, you did build your own multi-rotor craft. It is a manly thing, I think. JerryBaumchen PS) And if you do not believe in DIY then why are you teaching Physics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,345 #3 February 9, 2013 Quote Hi John, Well, you did build your own multi-rotor craft. It is a manly thing, I think. JerryBaumchen PS) And if you do not believe in DIY then why are you teaching Physics? I didn't say I didn't believe in DIY, just to be aware that objectivity is reduced when you do it. I do indeed enjoy making things and getting them to work.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 45 #4 February 10, 2013 That's interesting. I have 6 or 8 pieces of furniture that I put together Ikea style and I never gave it another thought and I take no pride in having "built" them. On the other hand, I have a rough stand up desk that I built from scratch that I think a lot of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 1,721 #5 February 10, 2013 Yeah, I recently built a bathroom vanity from scratch. It looks friggin' awesome to me, but I also know that the door isn't quite perfect (but because of the grain you can't tell), and the color is a little splotchy thanks to my following teh directions on teh wood conditioner. But no one will ever notice. AND I got to use several pieces of scrap lumber that were hanging around (always a plus). Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 36 #6 February 10, 2013 Am I the only one who's irony meter is deafening? lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 February 10, 2013 Quote Am I the only one who's irony meter is deafening? Nope, it crossed my mind the moment I opened this thread. It's hard to hear over the sound of how awesome he thinks he is.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 1,946 #8 February 10, 2013 >Yeah, I recently built a bathroom vanity from scratch. It looks friggin' awesome to me I often have the opposite problem. I'll put up a set of shelves and be 1/8" off on one side. According to Amy you can't see it - but I know it's off, and it bugs me. (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 February 10, 2013 Quote(And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 36 #10 February 10, 2013 QuoteQuote(And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb! Carpet is looking good right now?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,065 #11 February 10, 2013 Quote Quote (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb! Prior to college I was working in the maintenance dept of a hospital. Mgt kept getting the idea we could double as a remodeling dept. I swear there wasn't a single corner in that hospital that actually had walls meeting at 90 degrees."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 1,721 #12 February 10, 2013 Oh -- I know those things are there, but I got a good lesson a number of years ago. I was putting in a floor with an uncle, and a blemished board ended up right in a walkway. I wanted to re-do it, which would have been difficult given the glue and how hard we'd hammered it in. Uncle told me that I would be the only person ever to notice it. I do every time I walk by; no one else ever has. He was right, and if the overall appearance is pretty good, then people elide right over the defects. I have some bookshelves that I put up in a room with a grotesquely off-square floor-to-wall angle -- there's easily a 1" gap. Can't do much about it, so I've trimmed it out some, and no one has noticed it. So yeah, it looks awesome. Just as no one sees someone's self-doubts from the outside, most people don't see those defects, either. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,065 #13 February 10, 2013 Quote Quote Quote (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb! Carpet is looking good right now? I've heard it really tied the room together."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 5 #14 February 10, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb! Carpet is looking good right now? I've heard it really tied the room together. You're obviously not a golfer! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 5 #15 February 10, 2013 I swear there wasn't a single corner in that hospital that actually had walls meeting at 90 degrees. Quote For a couple of summers during college I hung drywall for a buddy in the business. There was one contractor that use to drive us nuts...nothing was EVER square. - a room would go from 8'2" to 7'10" in the span of 30 feet...one door way was 3" higher at one end than the other! If ya spilled a bottle of water on the floor it ran downhill like a mountain stream. We must have rocked 50 houses for that guy one summer...NONE of 'em was right. 25 years after I moved away from the area I was back visiting my nephew and his wife...their 'new to them' house REALLY looked familiar - sure enough, I'd hung the drywall 1/4 century earlier. I started pointing out some of the framing fuck-ups that I'd remembered...now the kid tells me THAT's all he SEES anymore! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #16 February 10, 2013 We use to succumb to cheap Ikea items, then we grew up and hired a contractor. Who has time for DIY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 February 10, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) While installing flooring in my children's rooms I found that the walls weren't all that straight. It was bad enough that I was having to use a roll of brown craft paper to cut out trimming templates. So we cut out a bunch of "blanks" out of the outline of the flooring material and I would use that to blank to cut down and fit a piece before cutting an actual piece of flooring. Prior to that I had never noticed how the walls weren't straight/flat, but now they stand out like a really sore thumb! Carpet is looking good right now? I've heard it really tied the room together. You're obviously not a golfer! This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind limber.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 2 #18 February 10, 2013 What I find fascinating so far in this thread is everyone is talking about physical objects. I think this idea also applies to mental constructions. I've heard many on this web site over the years that weren't exactly plumb.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 5 #19 February 10, 2013 Quote What I find fascinating so far in this thread is everyone is talking about physical objects. I think this idea also applies to mental constructions. I've heard many on this web site over the years that weren't exactly plumb. ...that's called havin' too much gravel & not enough cement! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #20 February 10, 2013 Quote Hi John, Well, you did build your own multi-rotor craft. It is a manly thing, I think. JerryBaumchen PS) And if you do not believe in DIY then why are you teaching Physics? If the people who wrote that article think that putting together an IKEA kit is "DIY", and somehow can't accomplish that task without it coming out crooked, then they should not attempt any of the things that Kallend does for fun or cash. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namowal 0 #21 February 11, 2013 I goofed on IKEA and the IKEA Effect a few years ago, before my "Skydiving Duck" days.My blog with the skydiving duck cartoons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,065 #22 February 11, 2013 Quote I goofed on IKEA and the IKEA Effect a few years ago, before my "Skydiving Duck" days. "I'm the kind of guy..." Huh!So who is using the Duck's account?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namowal 0 #23 February 11, 2013 Quote Quote I goofed on IKEA and the IKEA Effect a few years ago, before my "Skydiving Duck" days. "I'm the kind of guy..." Huh!So who is using the Duck's account? The schtick was I'd pose as a "guest blogger" who'd complain about his/her predicament. Some other examples: A vicious bully complaining he was being persecuted, a dog complaining about the mailman, the Sun complaining that nobody cared, a bigot insisting he wasn't a bigot, and so on.My blog with the skydiving duck cartoons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #24 February 12, 2013 Quote What I find fascinating so far in this thread is everyone is talking about physical objects. I think this idea also applies to mental constructions. I've heard many on this web site over the years that weren't exactly plumb. Hi Q Everyone is differentMost of the peeps that were "out of plumb" as you call it have either moved on, been banned,, or continue to post & lurk. There's new, younger, smarter peeps joining DZ.com. all the time. Some may even more out of plumb than us.Don't worry be happyOne Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #25 February 12, 2013 Quote>Yeah, I recently built a bathroom vanity from scratch. It looks friggin' awesome to me I often have the opposite problem. I'll put up a set of shelves and be 1/8" off on one side. According to Amy you can't see it - but I know it's off, and it bugs me. (And yes if I measured the rest of the shelves in the house they'd probably also be off by at least that much - but I didn't install them so it doesn't bother me.) this. I can always see every imperfection in my own work, to the point it is all I see when I look at it.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites