DougH

If the jump tickets were cheap enough they would get plenty of jumpers. Wouldn't be the first time skydivers cozied up with terrible oppressive regimes. You know, because "fuck you, I am going to get mine". Probably way less beer at the bonfire, but way more child brides.

If you pick the right brand it is also minty fresh.

"We're wary about people going out to hunt the jararacussu around Brazil, thinking they're going to save the world ... That's not it!" said Giuseppe Puorto, a herpetologist running the Butantan Institute's biological collection in Sao Paulo. "It's not the venom itself that will cure the coronavirus." Something tells me that this will be missed by many. Wishing good hunting... to the snakes.

No argument. Bleach also showed effectiveness in similar contrived lab testing. Go figure, bleach in the petri dish destroy virus particles. If doctors are prescribing ivermectin more than the recommended human dosage then they should lose their medical licenses for malpractice. People that are obtaining non prescription ivermectin and are overdosing are idiots. They get what they get, and I don't really care who gave them the idea or supported it, they chose to follow that advise instead of more qualified medical advice like get your vaccination, and don't take horse de-wormer. Fuck 'em. I grow increasingly less sympathetic and increasingly more resentful of these people day by day.

I like Joe Rogan from an entertainment standpoint, he has a talent for conversing with people. But it amazes me how many people find him to be intelligent and well informed on all types of issues. I can't recall where I heard this quote, but it hit the nail on the head... Joe Rogan is the real life representation of what an idiot believes an intelligent person is like. RE Ivermectin, from what I have read it is safe with minimal or no side-effects at the acceptable human dose. It just so happens that it hasn't shown any efficacy at treating COVID at those dosages. The only evidence was in vitro, in a petri dish. So if they are taking acceptable doses it shouldn't harm, but it also won't help. If they are taking livestock dosages all I can say is play stupid games win stupid prizes. Have fun shitting out the lining of your intestines'.

He didn't realize that Delta and most major corporations self insure for their health plans, I wouldn't hold your breath on his legal analysis.

Oh cool! Now you know more about health insurance law than the entire legal department at Delta Airlines. This is my shocked face. Go google wellness incentive programs. It may not be the most clear cut area of health insurance, but is far from "specifically illegal".

I am anti-insurrection, but I would totally be down with the representatives fighting *each other* in a MLB styled bench clearing brawl.

Kind of like the last year of cumulative forum posts on the subject from certain posters.

You reap what you sow. The citizens of California have enabled this asinine process. Does anyone know what the approximate cost is to the state and municipalities to administer these recall elections?

Why should we have a Federal power grab when your private (I assume) employer in the health care space won't make their own mandate? Health insurance companies should lean on employers, and employers should lean on employees. Mandate for your employees or your group insurance rates quadruple. Get the vaccine or your stupid ass gets fired. 100% pro-vaccination but we have given enough power to the Federal government recently, and it isn't very effective at using the powers it already has.

Why do you care? Does one of your doomsday prophesies speak of future unrest in South Africa as one of the harbingers of the end of days? I found it interesting that our resident prepper and isolationist would be looking for updates on current events in South Africa. The world is larger than America, but one has to wonder why this is a topic of interest for Ron.

I will be very surprised if this doesn't become the norm. I think some health insurance companies have already started working this in to the premium calculations, and they should. They should also factor in obesity and being sedentary, but I won't hold my breath.

Maybe, maybe not. Trump also repeatedly demonstrated potentially impaired mental capacity, in addition to sever character flaws, and a possible amphetamine habit. The difference to me is that Trump surrounded himself with yes men that doubled down on his frequent errors and miscalculations. Retractions by his staff were frequently walked back, his staff were skewered for trying to correct his errors, because his actions and initial comments were never wrong.

Sorry I should have said MD's. I wasn't trying to lump quack Chiropractors in there when I said Doctors.

Exactly. Doctor's have been telling people to eat better, lose weight, and exercise. Do you really think individual Doctor's don't want healthy patients? The population at large doesn't care, and is often willfully ignorant. The medical community overall is focused around treatment and not prevention, and Doctor's aren't well trained in nutrition, but this is a systemic issue, not some grand conspiracy to keep people sick so individual MD's can get more pennies on the dollar after they get the insurance haircut. It isn't the fault of individual doctors that the USA is filled with pre-diabetic fatties that can't moderate their fast food intake. You can't get a large percentage of these people to take the easy button, with the vaccine, and yet you think these Mc' dumbasses are just sitting there thirsting for nutritional and medical advise that will require discipline and hard work, as if they would be healthy if only these Black Hat doctor's weren't keeping that information suppressed. What a joke.

I just spit my coffee out. Good one DZ mods. Rest assured all of us would go to the hospital cafeteria lady that chain smokes for medical advise before we relied on any of the drivel he posts.

My son was about four months old at the start of the pandemic. He hasn't been sick yet. That is all due to a greatly reduced risk of exposure. He didn't go to stores or restaurants we may have taken him to if it wasn't for the pandemic, and my wife and I had a lower risk of exposure ourselves, which is probably how most flu and cold transmission happens with infants... parent to child.

It doesn't sound very enlightening to me. It sounds like you found a crack pot to talk to who had at one point earned a medical degree, but is now riding full steam ahead on the bullshit train. It only takes a minute of actual research to evaluate and dispute the claims that this guy made, but you already knew that.

You have to wonder how his tenure would have turned out if it wasn't for 9/11. I thought he had a goal of streamlining the military before those events unfolded.

Completely torched. And they managed to break down an unlocked antique wrought iron gate (which was probably just a piece of shit and in disrepair prior to the protest). https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53891184

I agree with all of what you said. I flew recently, while fully vaccinated, for work. Mask use in the airports and on the planes was and is still mandated but actual compliance was lack luster. From what I witnessed the airport personnel and flight attendant teams aren't doing much about it other than reminding people of that mandate in their boarding announcements and safety briefing before take-off. Maybe it varies by airline and team, but it looks like we are at the point where many people/companies/etc. are just going through the motions to check the box on their own legal or employer requirements.

We don't need to have a national system, and we probably won't get one due to political bullshit and government ineptitude. The drug companies should figure something out instead, they got us this far already. I assume that they are receiving demographics, or at the very least they are tracking the distribution of vaccine batches and vials. I filled out a form with each shot, that information went somewhere. Setup a system on their website where you can enter your date of vaccinations from your card, the location, and the vial/batch numbers. They validate that information, and they issue you a digital validation of some sort. Wala! A vaccination passport without needing to deal with the fucktard politicians. That being said I don't expect it to have any real relevance for US residents outside of international travel. The US travel and entertainment industry doesn't really care if people are vaccinated or not, their primary concern is about butts in seats, and trying to return to business as normal to the greatest extent possible. Here we are with restrictions being lifted on both state and federal levels, so I wouldn't expect any of these large private companies to institute their own vaccination mandates, that would be in conflict with their goal of butts in seats.

What do you define a reasonable person as? That is our sticking point. I don't deny that some people have apprehensions and fears about the vaccine. I don't think that the majority of those people have taken the responsible next step of evaluating their feelings, and challenging them with the information that is available. A reasonable person makes their decisions through a logical framework, they don't base them on feelings alone.

That 1 is me.