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I'm going to disagree, but only on the order not on the points. The single largest prohibition is environmental/land use. There are pooling deposits that would be economical to recover but there are mineral rights issues and evironmental issues that are blocking it. In an emergency those could be swept away. No emergency exists. The technology is relatively recent. Exxon and Total have both been very successful with them in Venezuela, but the technology is beyond most companies abilities to implement it wide scale at this time. i.e. not cost effective. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Of course there is, Bush/Cheney held extensive energy policy meetings during their transition. Of course, they kept it all SECRET so no-one knows what it is. I was at some of those meetings. I would beg to differ with your assessment. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Thought it was JFK who said that? /Marg My grandmother said it before he did. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

The market seems to have equalized with ROW (rest of the world) but is hanging in there - for now. Watch commodities - they are falling too, even gold. I think i is a rection to Japan and UK monetary issues along with other factors. UK sterling lost 6% overnight. Good for me bad for the British. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

There seem to be VERY large discrepancies between the claims in the chain email and the USGS report in the link Mike provided. There are discrepancies between a number of reports. Some are based on a report conducted by Price and LeFever in 1994 and using earlier technology for recovery. Others are more recent reports using more recent recovery methods. None of them addresses land use and mineral rights. It's a shame that we aren't more focused as a nation on the potential and overcoming the potential problems. The reality is that there is an abundance of energy sources in CONUS + Alaska but there really isn't any energy policy to address it. I can name only two countries that actually have a national security/energy integrated policy. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Well, yes and no. At the end of this post are two links to articles I've written on the subject. Yes, Bakken is promising as is Green River Basin. Both require new technology, but the technology exists although it is not readily available in abundance. (Fracture Mechanics and Horizontal Drilling Techniques) Also known but not wll publicized are huge natural gass reserves in the Appalachian Basin http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-009-03/FS-009-03-508.pdf. All of these resources are avialable but would face regulatory, technological, and environmental challenges. On top of that, the peg point for oil to make it worth the while is about $60 a barrel. As I stated in the article "Fix the Roof While the Sun is Shining" we can do it. We have to agree that it represents a second chance (remember the rhetoric "Drilling now won't produce results for years"? That doesn mean we shouldn't look at alteernatives as well. More wind means we have to build more wind turbine factories. There are three blade factories in the US now for large units and they are loaded for the next several years. We should create land grants for solar. We narrowly dodged a bullet with Solar One and Solar Two http://www.stirlingenergy.com/projects/solar-one.asp this year. Congress (that would be the Democrat Congress) only reluctantly allowed land use to progress. It's still up in the air a bit. And even large scale biofuel from non-food feedstock like algae http://www.algenolbiofuels.com/advantages-weutilize.html will take land use legislation. So before you invest in any of these technologies or "Huge Oil Finds" make sure to do your homework. But rest assured there are eyes on this stuff. I know the McCain Campaign has this information and I am in agreement with their methodolgy of approach. I am not quite as enthusiatic about Obama's because of the environmental lobby debt he owes on his campaign finances. Which ever one wins, it will take a very strong lobby to move this off the dime. OBTW the two leaders in development of these resources are Sheel and Exxon. Cut their R&D and the projects slow way down. http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2008/10/09/energy-regulation-and-your-future/ http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2008/10/10/fix-the-roof-while-the-sun-is-shining/ --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Good link. Bush approval rating 25%-30% McCain agreed 90%-95% Dem Congress Approval rating 13%-17% Obama agreed 96%-97% The link also points out that "Obama told a local TV interviewer recently that "the only bills that I voted for, for the most part, since I've been in the Senate were introduced by Republicans with George Bush." But it also points out that that was a lie. Geeze he even lies about stuff that wouldn't hurt him. Thanks again for the link! --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

It was the third thing I noticed when we moved back here (American Expat living in UK, again). The first was the number of big cars on the road, the second was the number of houses being built and sold. Back in the 1900's they just threw acid in eachothers faces. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

There was a good article a few weeks ago about this subjet. I don't hav the link, but it referenced some economic statistics that supported the economy does better when one party holds the presidency and another the congress. Over the past 50 or so years, the best mix was a Democratic president and republican congress. The worst was a Democratic president and democratic congress. The reality of the last 2 years was not factored in the report because no one, not even msnbc, has enough data to figure it out yet. You might do some searching on Wall Street Journal or Financial Times. I think this particular article was in the Economist. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

But seriously . . . I do see this mentality a lot in Europe. The Socialist Democrat governments have used this mentality as a means of manipulating elections and it has worked fairly well for them. We can now see the governments in Germany, France and soon GB I think turn to a more conservative leadership. I can see in Germany at least a lesser focus on "jobs for votes" and a greater focus on productivity and trade. It is too early to see if they make any progress. I do think that the USA is going to move more to that model and fall into a European model. This will also have the effect noted in this thread. As the EU banded together in early 90's to form a traiding block the were able to artificailly support thier higher cost models against world markets. The downside was trade deficits. They allowed their militaries to atrophy. It isn't that they don't want to be more participative in global military event. It is that they can't. T. Roosevelt understood the importance of maintaining the ability to project power. Maybe the time has come to allow the USA to take its rightful place on the world stage as a participant rather than a leader. I don't claim to know the right answer. I only know what I prefer, and I prefer the USA as it is to any of the many countries that I have lived and worked in. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

You're right there. Take a look at Holy Loch, Subic Bay, or Hamilton Air Force Base in CA. It took years to get to some semblance of normal when the base closed. While we're at it let's pull all the government contracts from local contractors too. Let the military handle it and just hire all the out of work people directly into the military. Then they could get the medical care and educational benefits and housing assistance. We could take a lesson from the Chinese and use our military as human traffic cones. What a great idea. How many soldiers can you hire if you just cancel one aircraft carrier? Yes I think we might be on to something here. We could use the Corp of Engineers to build roads and pipelines and the Sea Bees to drill for oil and gas. SEALS could take over for Baywatch and Delta could take over for SWAT. The Marines could secure our borders. Just pull the Reagan into Galveston Bay and let her generate electricity and desalinate water and house all the Hurrican refugees. Shut down the Red Cross and Salvation Army, let the Real Army do it. Kick those liberal bastards out of college administrations and make their campuses West Point, Annapolis, and Air Force Academy extensions. Think of all the factories we could build just to replace the goods we get cheap from overseas. Sure our standard of living might take a hit initially but once the military has taken over everything we won't have to worry too much about variety. I happen to like olive drab. This could be a great idea. Something Powell could really sink his teeth into. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Some people may be fooled by the numbers game being played. While Dems say 98% of small businesses won't get a tax rise (hot dog vendors, Avon salespersons, the lunch diner in Creston, Iowa) the other 2% number roughly 500,000 and create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Step back from that and look at what is going on right now in a cool and collected manner in the boardrooms of multi-national production companies. These are the ones that produce products like coal, gas, oil, wind, hydro, solar, and tidal power generation equipment. They are the ones that the likes of Barney Frank yell at at congressional hearing without "Hearing" what they are saying. What will a multinational do? Will they build that new wind turbine factory in the USA with higher tax factors or will they build it in Poland? You can't legislate that type of business decision you can only provide or remove incentives. It's easy to go after an Exxon Mobile because their balance sheet is huge. They spend more on local infrastructure like roads and harbors in certain areas than the local governments do. They give more to charities and support educational grants that do a great deal for education. Their educational assistance program is much better than anything Obama has suggested. You heard how much they made when oil was $100 bl but will you hear what their downside balance sheet performance is with it less than $70 bl? Why did the economy grow under Clinton? Not because of Clinton. It grew because with a Dem in the White House and the GOP in control of Congress government was prevented from getting too much in the way - they did what government should do - very little. I still think the golden rule applies here. The person with the gold makes the rules. They may prefer one candidate over the other but they are going to keep making money either way. They didn't get where they are by letting a little thing like a presidential election stand in their way. If you think Ol' Barry and Joe the Quack are going to change that, even with a cooperative congress you're going to be very disappointed. I remember what our previous CEO said before the German elections. "Chancellors come and chancellors go. We have a responsibility to our shareholders and we will deal with whatever the elections bring." --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

and not just another Big Foot costume. It might ,ead to $5 jump tickets a 1 minute to altitude. http://www.newser.com/story/40550/turkish-ufo-video-deemed-genuine.html --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

You win.

Thanks but I can't claim the credit, just check the link. Send me your last three tax returns and I'll consider it. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

I've pasted this in bt included the source url at the end. It just strck me as one of those things that deserves to be shared, even if it does come from a conservative website. In conversation from one guy to another: "Today on my way to lunch, I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed." "Once in the resaurant, my server had on an 'Obama '08' tie, and again I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Can you imagine the coincidence?" "Too funny!" "When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistibute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need - the homeless guy. Boy was he upset!" "I can imagine. I would be too." "So, I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside. I told him I thought he could use it more than my server. He was pretty excited and thanked me." "Dude, did you really do that?" "Yeah, you bet! So, at the end of my rather unscientific redistibution experiment, I realized that the homeless dude was grateful for the money he didn't earn, but the waiter guy was REALLY upset that I gave his money away that he earned. But I thought the homeless dude needed it way more than the waiter." In the end, redistribution of wealth is great for some, but a joke to others. http://conservativebadlands.blogspot.com/2008/10/wealth-redistribution-simple-way.html And then this comment: "I think this is about the best example you can give. It really lays it out in an easy to view fashion. The waiter might be O.K. with this happening once, but imagine if EVERY customer re-distributes HIS wealth." --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

what's to remark about? A selective misreading by some doesn't warrant much of a response. More koolaid please. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

I'll start Bayh's will be Bayh's --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Neeeeeeeeeddddd moooooore Kooooolaid --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

. . .WHEN they are elected. First Barry's Freudian slip with the plumber now Biden's warning. Here's your sign. Quick libs go get a glass of Koolaid and then share with us how this inspires you. http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/biden-if-elected-the-world-will-test-obama-with-a-crisis/ --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Reminds me of a really really bad version of Gilda Radner's "Emily Litella". Buts that's what happens when you try to recapture past brilliance second rate talent. We miss you Gilda --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

Release the records, answer the questions, remove the doubts. What you are is where you were when. Make it all go away with transparency and truth or perpetuate doubt. "Tell me the truth" is not a racial smear. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

I wouldn't be. Spend some time inside the beltway and you'd understand. I sure Palin does. She's been dealing with it fot at least 4 years. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

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Here. You might get some more ammunition from this article. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/Story?id=6047360&page=1 My first instinct was to point out how this guy has been attacted for his views by assailing his name, registration status, professional bona fides, anything but his views. What hit me about this whole dust up is the simple fact that here is an American who didn't ask for this 15 minutes of fame. He asked a question and expressed an opinion. The fact that he doesn't make $250,000 and that he is likely a benficiary of Obama's welfare program and STILL disagrees with him ( as we've found out from this crazy opposition research being conducted ). If we wait a day I'm sure the Daily Kos will attack his kids too. Somehow I think he's up to the task. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.