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No need. I think there is a very affordable building lot, once you disregard price, near the new DZO's dream business. And Bandon is just an hour away in one of his new Caravans.

Possibly. But maybe one close to where Tiger Woods hangs out like the golf course at Bandon Dunes.

Maybe now is the time to pitch him on owning a DZ?

Ron 24:7 Verse 1 Verily, all those who walk the world in darkness, meaning Democrats, Unbelievers, Luciferians etc. praise God and celebrate his Birthday for soon he shall cast your sorry asses into eternal flame and the world shall not know peace until Hillary is jailed. SHTF. Amen.

Even Luciferians?

You were perfectly clear. jakee just enjoys arguing for the sake of it.

So have I. House break in while I was sleeping. Managed the situation with a .300 Savage that was not loaded when I took it off of the wall. No clue if I could have done the same with a ping pong paddle.

That they ain't my peeps?

Jumpin' Jehosophat! It's rumored that newly minted Senator Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) may be Trumps boy in the Senate on January 6. Seriously, Tuberville? We're gonna get Tubered?

That's the spirit! I knew I could count on the South Africans to see the fun possible. The Canadians here are all with the it's not legal and the rules say no so we can't (I worked there, they really are that way) but who cares? They're only rules if you follow them, right? It's the New American Way.

Um, er, well, the thing is.... never mind.

Seriously? You think there are rules?

Wouldn't that just top off 2020 if Trump won a Senate seat in Georgia.

I'm to blame for the thread drift here. The bottom line is that no matter what I think about Heller we now have an individual right to keep and bear arms in America. Bill gave indications he's a bit centrist; I wanted to develop that because I think that's where most gun rights supporters really are. Sorry for the hijack.

He answered that sufficiently a few posts above, I thought. He's willing to forgo open carry as unnecessary and accept concealed carry with robust controls. Accepting that gun ownership isn't going away, what's not to like about that?

Oh, he's all about "all Americans" just not the likes of you and me. Hope whatever you want about Ron at one time in the past but the reality is that leopards don't change their spots. Do you recall a couple of years back when he said he was "given permission to kill communists"? Think about that. Some people think for themselves, others just wait for permission.

Why? He was a kid mouthing words. Ron doesn't care a rats ass about the US Constitution or our democratic processes.

What proof is there that the vote counts in those states were fraudulent? Just because a bunch of crooks and cronies who love being in power want a different outcome doesn't mean any way of achieving it is fair or right. In fact, without provable and legitimate reasons it is treasonous.

Proof, Ron. Not pictures, proof. What do you know for a fact that 59 judges and the Supreme Court did not?

You are better than this.

Anything other than the results of a fair election, right? Right here and now, Ron, if you have proof that the election was turned on fraud lay it out. Otherwise just admit that you'd take treason over Biden.

If you are into otherism it's the polar opposite, I guess. Maybe if you guy's, and I'm not blaming Canada even if it appears to be obvious, would send down some multicolored snow with the next polar vortex attitudes would change.

I'm with you on open carry and concealed carry. Large capacity clips might be solved with permits and controls. I am opposed to using semi automatic rifles for game animals; a poorly aimed first shot is rarely followed by a properly aimed second. For birds I'm good with semi-auto shotguns. I think anyone who converts guns to automatic or some form with bump stocks, rotary gizmos etc. should be guilty of a federal crime that is enforced. If guy's like Brent who has lot's of real training, experience and range time wants to shoot AR's at tin pots at the club who cares? But they shouldn't be allowed in the public square where the only purpose is to prove that armed speech is superior to unarmed speech. Also, I might be more relaxed if they weren't scary black instead of hot pink and banana yellow.

The sad reality is that now that hunting is a sport with defined playing fields that hold prescribed numbers of participants it is as unavoidable that players will be injured and killed as it is that the target number of animals will be harvested or mortally wounded and left unfound.

I get it that this is the Stupid Accident thread. However, here is an instance of common ground that might yield something. I also do not want my guns confiscated and I also am not in the no gun control crowd. Obviously, the degrees of control and the reasons will remain contentious but when the topic is guns in America any agreements between the sides warrant a touch of the pause button, methinks. So I'll ask: where would you draw the lines? Brent wants free access to suppressors etc. I think not. I also see no reason to sell guns that look like they were designed to kill people in modern warfare. I say no to open carry but agree that reasonably controlled concealed carry should be allowed. Where are you?