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Hi buzz That crap works on virgins. Aren't you part of your DZ family, a DZ team player, and a member of the skydiving brother hood? The team concept varies greatly from DZ to DZ for various reasons. Just got to find the right DZ with the right vibes. And you will achieve more. Wrong DZ, established clique wrong gender, connections, different management style, priorities unrealistic expectations, . Whatever, nothing personel business is business you can always do solo's or jump somewhere else. FWIW I've never actually seen the "wrong DZ" might be a urban legend. R.I.P. R.I.P.

Hi Mr B My boss (the wife) witnessed a very similar situation with a much happier outcome. Big suit guy dressed to the 9's can't wait for plane to pull into gate so starts answering "emergency cell phone calls. Fight atttendent: Sir please........ Suit Ignores the FA. Unknown person from first class walks back and asks the big suit to please follow the FA directions. Big suit Stands up towering over the unknown civie and tell him to buzz off

Hi T Cell phones

Hi NB I will be as soon as i can pick up my multi million dollar check thats waiting for me in Nigeria. The prince mumbo jumbo has assured me its a done deal. Im not greedy anyone want half my share for $5 (in advance).

Yikers...as of a phone call a few hours ago, they will be here TOMORROW at noon!! ...and it's gonna be 4 weeks now. Oh wells, I love them!!

Hi SP We joke about getting a shoe salesmen job in a high end exclusive womens shoe store for the benifits Then checked what it was going to cost us, Shave face daily, wear suit and tie daily, shined shoes, buffed finger nails, pinky ring, gold chain and shower in smelly water and commute during rush hr. Scratch head scratch butt, Scratch head scratch butt. In my situation the percieved job benifits weren't worth the costs. Any guy's here have experience working in a womens shoe store in the real world.

Hi SP Congrats First time shame on him, second time shame on you Hope the next one turns out a lot better for you A good marriage is very very good and even gets better the longer it lasts.

Hi RB No reason to flame your temp comfort range or choice of gear. Different strokes for diff folks.

What wrong with either of these things? Color bands make sense - easier visibility. 3 buzzers can correspond to b/o, pull, oh shit altitudes. I only had mine a couple months before the forced timeout, but it seems like the right design to be worth the cost and hassle factor of an added piece of gear. Alti? The yellow before the red IMO is band aid. Red is Red ignor it and you might hurt yourself real bad. If you need yellow to tell you that red is next in 5 sec's talk to your instuctor The three buzzer deal IMO is a great unit and there's nothing newer thats better i highly recommend it The dig is the cypress came out before the 3 bell audio alti. Tandem guy's FF students etc need a AAD. Unless you've been knocked out in FF or otherwise and you don't pull after the third bell IMO you should not be jumping. If a jumper is knocked out and has to land a open reserve on autopilot The reserve will increase their chance of jumping another day, but shit happens: water, Bldg, power lines, down winder, Mcnasty ect ect. Review the incident statsfor no pulls with you instructor: What happened? why did it happen? how many times has it happened? What type of jumping am I doing Whats the cost to benifit ratio of a cypress that for my type of jumping is a triple or quad redundent safety system that may add 20% to the cost of the Brand new best state of the art safest gear money can buy. Does a swooper need a cypress? Nothing wrong with swooping if that what you want to do but IMO the cost of a cypress might be better spent learning from a pro how to swoop. BTW Old stuff the debate has been going on for ages. R.I.P.

Hi Bozo You know the deal better than I do but ITSOC to keep this thread going....... Being a very very old skydiver is a good thing.

Congrats, that's the most ignorant post I've read in ages, and I was reading the Titusville thread. Never insult a man's wife, motorcycle or rig. Hi Mr T Cyber space, no profile etc, opinions are like A-holes except better more entertaining

Hi Andy Only if it worked. And you got the pics or logbook to prove it If a persons going to fudge their jump numbers no telling where the notches on your gun came from. Ho ho Ho

Hi Mr T Jumping the same canopy for 10 yr's, 1500 jumps under severe conditions in SA. What ever happened to getting a new canopy every year

Spending 2-4 yr's in college and not being able to afford to jump is wrong. Might be time to reconsider your career choice. It takes $$$ and time to do a lot of fun things. lack of funds/time for jumping may be a wake up call for a career change.

Hi lucky aka (SS) What DZ did you say you jump at? I could help you out on your lucky streak, before it happens for real. These days I'm hoping all the DZ's have or will get closed circuit camera's to incourage the bad folks to play nice. Lots of drunks accidently fall into the fire pit. Karma is a bitch at the wrong DZ. R.I.P.

Hi H Thanks for the pic. Is this the meet where they had 110 ten way teams competing? Thats a bunch of folks were they able to drink Z-hills dry, befor the meet was over? I hadn't heard about the canuck getting hungup on exit but thats exactly what the other picture you posted looks like. Did his team request a rejump? My luck I would have slid off way to low to do any good. R.I.P.

Hi MIH IMO the significant increase in A liscense was due to marketing by USPA and the GM DZ's. Win Win for them. A increase in folks not renewing their liscense or gettting out off the sport? It might be interesting if we could plug in age groups to see if thats another reason for the dropout rate. Some baby boomers are slowing down, or are tired of playing second fiddle to the to the gravy train $$$. Maybe some of the old farts are tired of paying dues to a trade organization USPA/GM DZ's that have failed to take action to prevent the the serious injuries from failing to land a perfectly good parachute. (Why have a minimum opening altitude and anything goes for anyone under canopy?) WAG: 10 DOA/yr due to bad landings x 15 yr's = 150 dead peeps. Minimum opening altitude is very old school due to severe consequence's of no pull/low pull(DOA). For some reason that factor of safety was not incorperated into landing a good canopy, and the annual stats reflect it. To bad we don't have stats for broken pelvis's and hips for same reason as the DOA's failure to land a good canopy. This has been a very good year for the reduction in fatal incidents in the US

Hi J SAY WHAT!!!!!!!!! Do you really expect a response from USPA, Or a gentle reminder from USPA to titusville to play be the "rules" with a CC to you

Hi T Lesson learned: when paying with cash get a reciept or pay via CC or check. We got a call after a weekend at a out of state DZ claiming we forgot to pay befor leaving. We paid the first time in cash and via check the second time. After that whenever we visited the same DZ always paid by check. Also had a problem at the local DZ onceshowed up next weekend and at the end of the day got a bill for the previous weekend. No problemo check #xxxx got a copy of the check for proof of payment. A DZ is not going to stay in business cheating their customers but when their dealing with lots of $$$, have new employees, bottom feeding jumpers etc shit happens having some Paper as proof of payment is nice way to clean up the mess.

Hi Jraf IMO this whole thread has been very entertaining (LMAO) My only regret is that a specific DZ was mentioned and the PA on the manifestor. This lack of pro service is the direction of a lot of industries not just DZ.s Some people are "no" people (power and control) We stay away from them because we already know the answer

Hi C Do a word search on DZ.com (Jesus string) and you'll learn everything you want to know about the "last hope rope" even pictures.

Hi K Shut water off and find a convenient motel. Good news your a renter not the owner. Contact the owner and tell them you need what and when. Start making a list, keep reciepts notes etc in case you have to go to small claims court.

Ruger Mark II Before spending the $ on the ruger mk2 have the dealer show you how to breakdown and clean the gun. IMO It's a Major PIA, check out another manufactor the ruger reminds me of a zip gun. If anyone is driving thru Wa state and wants to pick up a slightly used Ruger get in touch. R.I.P.

Wonder how much income the city, chamber of commerce, makes from the prison industry. If the DZ is a little fish the city may have other plans for the airport. The lawyers alway win R.I.P. R.I.P.