NightJumper

You may be right, you may not, it may be defensible and they "probably" as lawrocket said would not prosecute you, but do you want to be on the wrong side of that “probably”? Do have the time and money to fight it when you can just avoid it up front?

[Quote]Yes, of course, that is exactly what I am saying. YIKES! I don’t since an opinion is subjective! The fact is that when vibration and load testing was done the Dacron was damaged in the application that it was tested for. Destructive test and microscopic examination was also done, did you? What makes you think that the testing you did would be applicable to testing that I was involved in? Like I said before, to make a statement that two materials will ALWAYS be compatible could be very dangerous. If it works in the application that you are using, then great. Also, in all fairness I was wrong too since I made the statement “vectran cuts Dacron” which could be taken as an “always” implication which is not the intention as there are applications where is does work. And I still think it is wrong for anyone that is not a master rigger or the factory to recommend an alteration to gear that could affect how it works, do you?

It may or may not, but that is not the point. The point is to try and get people from posting bad information and inform others to be careful of what information they get and verify it. Most master riggers, instructors etc. do not make or recommend the common errors on the forums here that I am addressing and have been made by others. This is probably because of the obvious training, experience and certification that have given them the wisdom to know better. If you ask a gear question here on the forums, who do you want an answer from, a rigger, manufacture, gear store, instructor or someone who has none of the above? Which is more likely to be correct information? Who is more likely to put themselves in a libelous position and get someone hurt?

I have and when I worked at a factory we abandoned the use of the two for that particular application. Again, look at the whole context of the post. What works in one application may not in another. Or are you saying that it is always safe to do that no matter what the design or application is?

I will go ahead and notify Fire Rescue Paramedics that you will be there. God help all of the golf carts!

These are all good questions that would be good to bring up at the PIA riggers forum, are you going to be there? And to answer your question, who knows. I had a steering line question one time and called the local DPRE and asked if I could do the work and he said yes. Three days latter after the customer picked up the rig a different DPRE called me and said I couldn't. I contacted the manufacture of the canopy and they sent me a letter of authorization. I basically would only do repairs to the canopies that were from the manufacture that I worked for and sent anything else to the manufacture of origin. Besides, they can usually fix it better, quicker and cheaper anyway and that way I'm giving my customer the best service.

This WILL be the headline someday unfortunately. The article will read something like: After viewing the helmet and ground video and hearing testimony from witnesses including FAA master riggers and the factory that the skydiver was killed as a result of making changes to the gear following the advice given by XXXXX on DZ.com, the grand jury recommends criminal charges against XXXXX. This recommendation came after the prosecution showed that XXXXX had no FAA riggers certificate, factory training, and authorization from the same or any other professional experience related to the gear. The prosecution also sowed copies of the posts to the jury. The defense contends that XXXXX is a professional authority because they work part time on the weekends at a local drop zone as a tandem instructor (example only). The family has also filled a civil suit in circuit court. Get the idea of what could happen here? I have kept quite publicly for far too long and it is time someone speaks up. I have tried to address theses issues by PM’s from time to time with individuals to no avail. Over the last few years I have seen several post here asking questions about training, gear, rigging etc. Too many times the answers that are given are misleading or wrong to the point that it could cause injury or death. Routinely the people giving theses answers have no damn business posting and in fact should also be waiting for the answer too so that they can learn. If you are not a certified rigger, instructor, factory rep. or expert in the subject matter then take your fingers off of the keyboard and learn something for a change. There are too many new people on here that don’t know better then to ignore you. They see that you have been here a long time and have a lot of post so they think that you know what you are talking about when in fact you are as clueless as they are, or maybe you are just a new as them and they don’t check your profile. Just because you read, saw, witnessed, heard, have a picture, video or Elvis told you, does NOT make you an expert or a professional. One day when someone gets hurt or killed following your advise and you get sued or criminally charged because you were so smart that you put you wrong advise in writing on a public forum, maybe then you will stop and think before you hit the enter key, but then it will be too late for the poor skydiver that listened to you.

WRONG! No senior rigger can deviate (alteration) from a factory specification. Are you an FAA senior or master rigger? Have you actually made an alteration to gear for someone else or are recommending that they do? Just because it has been done does not make it safe, legal or right!

Then my question is, if it is a good recommendation (yours) to deviate from the original factory specification, then why was it not originally manufactured that way?(vectran/dacron) Any recommended deviation to a factory specification is best left to master riggers and the manufacture.

I wouldn't. You should replace the line with the same type. And vectran will cut through dacron.

Really, you have wool?YIKES!

My job rocks!

I don't think it really matters about the price rather than it is something that comes from the heart. That special something that catches your eye, that when you see it you know that it is the right thing for them. You know, like that black H2 that you want to get me.

Speaking of which, I still have Cassie's toga

There are a bunch of us in DeLand. By the way, when are you coming to visit?

Good dog!

Grab my dog and go jump!

If you were in Florida you could have a famous rum runner that I know about!

No! Maybe purple

Hell, I'll come just for that alone.

If you are asking will it work...Yes. Has and is it done....Yes. Will either manufacture authorize it....NO. If you have one of the old style racer harnesses call Jump Shack and get one of the new 2K3 tandem passenger harnesses and demo it. Hope this helps. Stay safe, Mike

72F and a gentle north east breeze here

Yes, I usually get her a couple of jump tickets.

Well, I guess that answers the did you get it question. And that is not even all of it, there is another ground package coming next week. As for the snow you can solve that problem by coming to Florida!

Contact John Eiff at [email protected]. If anyone knows, he does.