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Are you sure it's not in South Carolina just south of the NC border? It sounds like you may be describing Skydive Carolina in Chester. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

I actually edited my post as I'm not certain the manual states what I suggest. However, I would still do it. Once you have climbed 150 feet in elevation (the drive to the significantly higher take off zone) the Vigil enters "Airborne Mode" and stays in that mode until it gets back to "Ground Zero" (the location it was turned on). If I'm driving to a significantly higher take off zone it should not take very long to climb 150 feet. As long as I'm jumping over the landing zone the Vigil is set for that landing location. Maybe the better option would be to turn on the Vigil at the take off zone and set an "Altitude Correction" of minus the number of feet at the landing zone. I jump in the flat lands so I've never needed to give much thought to this. I think it's worthy of more research. Definitely not as easy as just setting your device to always add 300 feet to the firing altitude. The Vigil does re-calibrate for barometric pressure every 32 seconds. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

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In my opinion, that would be a really bad decision by those that designed the Vigil. It means that for some scenarios the unit will not be able to activate when it ought to be able to do so. If the landing zone is below the takeoff altitude, then the unit cannot fire at some altitudes where a save is still possible. There might be some other scenarios that could also have bad, unintended consequences. OK - I see your point. If I were jumping (on a regular basis) at a DZ with a significantly higher take off location than the landing zone I would simply go to the landing zone to turn on my Vigil. If it were only a once in a while situation (since most of my jumps have been without the aid of an AAD) I would simply take my chance that I could handle it. I believe that scenario is much less likely than an average skydiver taking off and landing at the same elevation, as do most of us, who simply wants to increase the "Activation Altitude" without affecting the 150 feet arm/disarm (aka "Airborne Mode") altitude. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

In my opinion, that would be a really bad decision by those that designed the Vigil. It means that for some scenarios the unit will not be able to activate when it ought to be able to do so. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mind expanding on that? To what scenarios are you referring? Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

The term offset came from the use of that word in relation to changing the activation altitude of a Cypres in this thread: http://www.dropzone.com/forum/Skydiving_C1/Gear_and_Rigging_F6/Changing_activation_altitude_on__Cypre_2_P4465101/. The term offset refers to changing a parameter to account for differences between takeoff and landing altitudes, while activation altitude refers to a parameter that solely controls the height at which the cutter fires. The Cypres has two different settings because if you were to change the offset parameter in order to increase the activation altitude, this would also raise the height at which the Cypres disarms. I understand that the Vigil and Cypres are totally different units, but the original question was trying to work out whether this was also the case with the Vigil. This is the crux of the question though... when it descends to 150 feet, is it expecting the landing zone to be a different height to the takeoff zone due to the altitude correction parameter?? If it is set to expect the ground to be 300ft higher at landing, will the Vigil now disarm at 450ft (300ft + 150ft) above the height of the takeoff area? It is my understanding that the primary use of the Vigil's altitude correction parameter is to compensate for a discrepancy between the altitude at which you are planning to take off and land. See the first attachment for a rough diagram I drew to try and explain this. In the diagram, imagine that you have programmed a +300ft altitude correction into the Vigil. You can see that if the landing zone were in fact 300ft higher, then the Vigil would fire at a minimum of 840ft above the landing zone, which equates to 1,140ft above the original takeoff altitude. All fine so far. However, you will also note that the Vigil would be programmed to disarm at 150ft above the landing zone. This equates to disarming at 450ft (300ft + 150ft) above the original takeoff altitude. My question is: if you program a +300ft altitude correction into the Vigil when the takeoff and landing altitudes are the same, will the Vigil now disarm at 450ft above the ground since it is expecting the ground to be higher on landing? Or in other words: if you were to change this parameter but are taking off and landing at the same altitude, does this affect the window within which the Vigil will operate? See the second attachment for an example of how the Cypres handles changes made to the activation altitude. You can see that it increases the size of the activation window itself, it doesn't simply shift the window up and down (which is what the offset parameter on the Cypres does). I'm trying to work out whether the Vigil increases the size of the window (as seen in the diagram) or whether it shifts the fixed size window up and down. My suspicion is that because the parameter on the Vigil is designed to compensate for differences in altitude between takeoff and landing, it will operate in the same way as the offset parameter on the Cypres. That is, if takeoff and landing are the same height, but you change the Vigil's activation altitude, it will also affect the height at which the unit disarms. 150 feet relative to what? Takeoff or landing? Remember that in my question the takeoff and landing altitude are the same, but from what I understand, the Vigil's altitude correction parameter is designed to tell the unit that they are different. Hopefully I've managed to make myself clear... I feel like it's a complex question, and I'm struggling to put the concept into words. This is as simple as I can make it. Your assumptions are wrong. The Vigil uses the location you turn on the unit as "Ground Zero". Once it goes up to 150 feet above "Ground Zero" it enters "Airborne Mode". It does not know where you are going to land. If you make an "Altitude Correction" you are changing the firing altitude and only the firing altitude. You are not changing some window that Cypres may or may not use. Try not to lump the two products together. They are different. The 150 feet "Airborne Altitude" never changes. Nothing you can do to the unit will change the 150 feet "Airborne Altitude" which also means that the disarm altitude can not be changed either because it is the same as "Airborne Altitude" - 150 feet. The only thing you change is the altitude at which the unit fires. It appears you are making this more difficult than need be. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Just because something is simple doesn't make it correct. The correct thing to do is change your settings the way the device was designed. Please do not advise people to set their AAD in Student mode unless they are indeed a student- jumping an appropriate sized student canopy. This is just not good advice. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

People, please do not use the Student mode in an effort to increase the activation altitude. This advice needs to be re-thought. The Student mode will activate (fire) once it reaches 45 MPH of decent (of course it needs to be at or below the activation altitude). It is very easy for any average jumper to hit 45 MPH during an aggressive canopy turn with today's faster canopies. It would be even worse with a Cypres. It only takes 29 MPH to activate the Student Cypres. If you want to increase your activation altitude, simply change it by using the control unit on your AAD. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

I'm not sure from where the term "off set" came. It is actually called the "altitude correction" in the manual and to my knowledge the manual does not use the term off set. The "altitude correction" is the method by which you adjust the activation altitude. Once you set the "altitude correction" it will stay in the Vigil until it is changed back manually by the user. Let's say you set the "altitude correction" by 300 feet higher (100 meters). Whenever you boot up the Vigil, from that point forward it will always boot up with the "altitude correction" in default. Assuming the unit is set to "Pro" mode, the screen will show "P + 300 ft" or, if set to meters "P + 100 m". This will show up in the LCD every time it is booted up until the user changes the "altitude correction" to something else. This only changes the activation altitude not the standby altitude. When the Vigil senses that it has climbed in altitude to 150 feet, it goes into "airborne mode" and stays in airborne mode until it descends back to 150 feet at which time it goes back into stand by mode. The 150 feet never changes regardless of any other setup changes. The answer is emphatically - "Yes". Setting an "altitude correction" does not affect any other parameters of the Vigil - only the activation altitude. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

There is one early April. April 4-6 Falling Gators in Palatka with a Skyvan. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Long range weather forecast is looking promising. Friday 04.04.2014 79 °F 61 °F 4 mph NE partly cloudy with low and high clouds Saturday 05.04.2014 75 °F 59 °F 4 mph N clear with low and high clouds Sunday 06.04.2014 77 °F 59 °F 3 mph SE clear with low and high clouds BTW - I come from the days of some serious throw down parties. Let's see how the youngsters do. Spread the word and lets get a good crowd out for this event. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

If I had a canopy that did that to me, I wound not be asking advice other than how much I should ask for it when I sell it. This sport is risky enough - just get rid of it. I know the Pulse gives good openings. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Not directed at anyone in particular > As long as we are opining in this tread. I really enjoy reading posts from most of the people listed in the last couple of pages. However, it is my opinion that this thread has been allowed to drift into any area which provides minimal help for the OP's original post and question considering his low jump numbers. Maybe there should be a thread about camera and demo snag threats and the subsequent use of RSL's. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Hasn't your dealer sent you the sizing chart? When I sell a Vector, one of the first things that get's sent to the customer is the attached chart. Your main canopy will be full fitting and the reserve will be standard fitting. Take a look for yourself. Be the canopy pilot you want the that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

For the big stuff you may need all that. Smaller records need very little. You can tell from the record forms what is needed. See Attachment. Sparky I'm not sure if anyone has sent in for an official Iowa record. We did a 60 way about 10 years ago but before they were official. Parachutist published an article and a picture but I suppose someone could claim a 2 way if they want. Who knows maybe they already have. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

If your heart is set on a 7 cell then take a good look at the PD Storm. Personally I would recommend a Sabre 2 or Pulse - both 9 cells. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Re-read the article....he was a she and she was jumping a borrowed canopy that was not compatible with her Skyhook system so it was left unhooked. Sparky I believe the OP is referring to the Feb issue with the 72 year old male doing a 4 way jump and then deploying his reserve too low after cutting away. This guy did not have an RSL installed on the rig (according to the report) The report in the last issue (March) is referring to the woman who was on the female world record tryout. She basically did the same thing as the guy after a spinning malfunction (cutaway and then did not deploy her reserve in time). A point of clarity: her rig did have an RSL and a Skyhook. She borrowed a canopy (with risers) that did not have an RSL ring on the right riser which is the side for Vectors. (she did not have a demo canopy from a vendor) Another point of clarity: A Skyhook does not have to be compatible with a specific canopy or risers. If a Skyhook is built into a rig it only needs to have the RSL connected for it to work. She made the mistake of not putting the borrowed canopy on her Vector risers - which takes a very cautious person less than 30 minutes. There are many people who will argue that an RSL can cause problems and even deaths after cutaways. Statics over the past 20 years supports just the opposite. RSLs save lives. Be then canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

I've been hearing about this boogie for years and I'm excited to finally be able to attend. I look forward to doing some cool jumps with everyone. Just a reminder: this boogie is not just for college students. I hope to see lot's of people come support the Falling Gators club at this event. A big thank you to Vigil for making this happen. Sandy Grillet Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

This is not only to the OP, so please don't take this the wrong way. This is actually aimed at everyone reading this. *********************************** As has been said, the OP is a low bulk reserve which allows you to put a larger reserve into a pack tray for a smaller, normal material reserve. It is also completely different from the PDR reserve - a different plan form and flight and landing characteristics. Having been around for a few years I've witnessed people break their backs while flaring to land what they thought was a good reserve canopy - more than one model from more than one company. These canopies were actually very popular because people didn't know it would kick their ass, until they actually jumped it and it "kicked their ass". TSOs say very little, if anything, about the flight or landing characteristics of a reserve. When PD first started touring and allowed people to demo their reserves it always amazed me, and does to this day, the number of people who passed on trying the reserve in favor of trying the newest and hottest main canopy. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think it's smart to demo your main canopy before you decide on which to buy. I know the money that PD spends on their demo program and I give them kudos for continue to do so. I also know that few people ever ask to demo the Optimum while PD is at the DZ. Why is that? Why would you want to open your reserve at a time when obviously shit isn't going all that well for you, only to realize you've never actually flown a 7 cell - F 111 type canopy? You have no idea how they fly, how they get back from a bad spot, which, according to Murphy, you will naturally have or how they flare for landing. Over the years, I've developed a pretty good ability to steel my nerves when shit hits the fan and I still have a lot of pucker factor when landing my reserve off the DZ in a pasture full of high trees. And that's after having made almost 20 demo jumps on my Optimum in normal conditions (as a demo). How about you? What is your reason for not demoing your reserve before you buy it? Is it the $7.00 they charge you for the last pack job after you've made a few jumps on it? Is it the fact that you may not look cool to all your friends who are demoing everything else? Are you concerned you may not actually know how to fly and land that type of canopy? Please don't let these things deter you from putting a few jumps on the canopy you expect to save your life. Just because it opens does not mean your safe. Don't be like the multiples of people I've seen leave the sport, with a limp, because their reserve saved their life- it just didn't save their "lifestyle". Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Congratulations Rook and team. I can't wait for that "Fireworks Display". Let me know how I can help. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Not sure if you were commenting to me in general or not. I'm also not sure what SWS means. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Try this. It's about the G2 but the opening process is the same as the G3. I recommend watching all of it but if you want to cut to the chase, start at the 4:00 minute mark. Once you open it correctly a few times it's really quite simple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32FFSo3biA Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

You might check with Kirk Verner. [email protected] If he can't help, try to track down John Leming. I think he shot the video and was part of the final production. You should be able to Facebook him. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

Have you tried any of the old Airspeed guys? It's their video. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

As a vector dealer, I must tell you that UPT (and I) suggest you should never put two full fitting canopies in the same rig. Too many people assume that when they need to use their reserve it will be after they cut away the main. When the main is out of the pack tray it relieves pressure on the reserve pack tray making it easier for the reserve to be extracted from the container. What happens when you're burning towards the earth at full terminal speed and discover you can't get your main pilot chute out, so you have to go to your reserve? Hopefully you won't panic and be able to remain calm and not lose stability. Do a search on here about reserves that would not come out of the container - some pretty interesting reading to say the least. Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. . Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.