MrHixxx 0 #1 June 7, 2002 Hey swoopers,I am looking for a cool system/design for the colar of my jumpsuit for wrapin up my slider. Anyone have any slick methods they want to share?thanx, Hixxx"Woman... Wu -mon... Whoa - man! She stole my heart and my cat" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 June 7, 2002 Think CAREFULLY before you decide to somehow tie your slider to your jumpsuit.If you collided with another jumper under canopy and had to cutaway, would you be able to?quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #3 June 7, 2002 QuoteThink CAREFULLY before you decide to somehow tie your slider to your jumpsuit.Good question Hixxx, personally, I have a single kill line collapsable slider, and have been tucking the line in between the reserve risers on the right side after rolling until tight. I'm pretty sure if I chopped it I wouldn't have a problem, but am interested in hearing what the experienced people might say about this. I'm guessing it might not be good. My other idea is to have my rigger install some tabs facing downwards on my risers so when I pull the slider down the tabs will lock it down until I pull the grommets back over the tabs for repacking. I'm not sure if both kinds of riggers would be able to do this or what, just an idea I had floating in my mind. If you don't understand what I'm talking about I could sketch a pic. If it sounds like a horrible idea, I'm open to suggestions.--Dude, where's my raft? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #4 June 7, 2002 I do not like the idea that you attach your slider to your neck collar. Two years ago, I saw a canopy collision during the final approach. One parachutist had to cut away her damaged main. She was less then three seconds under her reserve and she had no time left to unstow her brakes.Every second counts. You do not need something that slow downs or prevents you of cutting away your main.I just collapse my slider, bring it behind my neck and open my chest strap as far as possible. It works very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #5 June 7, 2002 I have seen the velcro on the collar thing.. But I am hesitant not knowing if the velcro would release if I had to cut away under my main. Then again you could use one stitch or something on the velcro to your collar? That would break.. The slider does seem to be a pain in the butt.. The further I get my chest strap undone the more it seems to stay down.. Blue Skies ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #6 June 7, 2002 I've made and used a velcro attachemnt that slides under the top reserve flap. It's nice for two reasons, 1) it is always w/ the rig regardless of what jumpsuit you are wearing and 2) if for some reason you have to cutaway after stowing your slider and if the velcro didn't release or open the reserve top flap and slide off (I find it hard to believe that it wouldn't) activating the reserve would allow the slider keeper to slide off the reserve top flap.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #7 June 7, 2002 Too bad I have a racer?? Can't do that? Any other ideas?Guess I need a new rig.. lol Blue Skies ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #8 June 7, 2002 I've seen it done w/ a racer, rigger installed during reserve re-pack, but I wouldn't do that, of course I won't pack racers.Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #9 June 7, 2002 I make things exactly like Derek describes on both of my rigs for times when I am not wearing a jumpsuit, but I also have slider stows on all of my jumpsuits. The "rig" ones slide on and off the top reserve flap easily, but don't slide around. They take me about five minutes to make. My jumpsuits all have a 1.5" x 1.5" piece of pile velcro sewn to the collar which has a three inch piece of binding tape connected to a same-size piece of pile. Many swoopers like to sew something just like that to the yoke of their rig. That would be fine on a racer or Reflex. Don't think your slider will release? Check it in a cutaway harness; I did and it did not slow anything down. ChuckMy webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #10 June 7, 2002 Slider-catchers.Sounds like Mr. Spy is trying to re-invent slider-catchers.Sandy Reid invented slider-catchers back when F-111 was in fashion and I built a few while working at Rigging Innovations.They look like dive loops except for two changes. First slider catchers are sewn on much lower, almost at the crotch.Secondly, slider-catchers incorporate plastic stiffeners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #11 June 7, 2002 QuoteThink CAREFULLY before you decide to somehow tie your slider to your jumpsuit.If you collided with another jumper under canopy and had to cutaway, would you be able to?Agreed Paul! I like the train of thought that Derek and Chuck are following... It is nice to have peers just a click away!thanks, Jon"Woman... Wu -mon... Whoa - man! She stole my heart and my cat" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
webracer 0 #12 June 10, 2002 I have a velcro tie-off on my jumpsuits. I use a 1.5 x 2 section of hook (mounted 2 wide, 1.5 high), with a 3.5" piece of 3/4" elastic sewn under the hook. On the end of the elastic I have a 3/4 x 1.5 piece of loop (mounted 1.5 wide, 3/4 high). This holds the slider pretty securely, but lets go on occasion (maybe 2-3% of time). I can just grab my slider at the grommets and pull it up the risers and the attachment will let go. I am positive this will not interfere with cutaway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #13 June 10, 2002 How easily does the slider stay behind your head without anything to keep it down? Wynona's got herself a big brown beaverand she shows it off to all her friends .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #14 June 10, 2002 saw some people playing with some new riser contraptions as you described, but they didn't seem to work out to well for one reason or another (the people in question have very easy access to RWS and PD) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookit 0 #15 June 10, 2002 QuoteHow easily does the slider stay behind your head without anything to keep it down? I used to use one of the slider stows which Derek made however it started beating the bejesus out of my neck on headdown jumps once I began jumping with a tshirt & pants rather than full jumpsuit.So...now I just pull the slider down behind my head and, if I loosen my chest strap all the way, it stays quite well for me. Now my main concern is the latch on the back of my Half-Rak camera helmet. I've had the slider catch on that latch once or twice as I was looking around under canopy and I don't like the thought of it catching on that latch in the event I have to cut the main away. Has anyone else with a Half-Rak or Bat-Rak experienced the same?-Trey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #16 June 10, 2002 Mine doesn't unless It comes all untucked on the plane.It's that Javelin rig of yours ramon"wee girls on a skydive road trip on big bikes...... yikes, dykes and bikes kinda thing...... ", David McKelvie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookit 0 #17 June 10, 2002 QuoteMine doesn't unless It comes all untucked on the plane.Your what doesn't what unless it comes untucked on the plane?Are you saying the stow doesn't flap horribly against your neck unless it comes untucked? Into what are you tucking it?QuoteIt's that Javelin rig of yours Probably so! I'll likely go with a Vector 3 for my next rig. 'Cause that's what all the really cool people at my dz have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #18 June 10, 2002 I tuck my excess velcro strap underneath the strap that holds it on my reserve flap. No biggie just keeps it more compact instead of a big loop of material sticking out.I can still reach it with my hands when I am settled under canopy.I love that 'stash' that flappy ass slider would never stay down and would get in the way of trying to grab dive loops etc.."wee girls on a skydive road trip on big bikes...... yikes, dykes and bikes kinda thing...... ", David McKelvie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #19 June 10, 2002 "Cause that's what all the really cool people at my dz have. "yeah, right!......Glad you escaped databse hell on Sunday and made a sweet one.....Still on for wednesay nite?....CyaDGR# 37Remember how lucky you are to see and touch the sky; the blind may only dream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookit 0 #20 June 10, 2002 Quoteyeah, right!......Sorry...I should have said 'All the really cool people WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DAVE'......my mistake...thanks for catching it!QuoteGlad you escaped database hell on Sunday Unfortunately the escape was only temporary...I spend most every Monday through Friday stuck in db hell...it's rough but at least it keeps me jumping on MOST weekends!Wednesday night is a definite go! See you there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #21 June 11, 2002 Removeable slider is nice. Pull the tab and tuck the slider in your shirt or jumpsuit. Takes longer to pack and you need to be sure it is assembled correctly when packing.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #22 June 11, 2002 I seem to be missing something... I pull my slider down, pull my googles round my neck (I wear no helmet) and roll the slider up in the goggles. I jump a 100 Heatwave loaded to 2.0 to 1 on a DZ 5500ft ASL.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
