DB Cooper

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"It was LOCAL FBI knew very little about Cooper nor did they question why Duane obtained and how he obtained a legal Florida Drivers License under John C. Collins..."

back in the day, Forida as well as other states I'm sure didn't require picture ID for a drivers License, Birth certificate or S.S. card was enough, these could easily be changed
and the system was not up to date enough to catch these things. (100% Legal)

Duane moving around a lot tells me things were to hot in that area so he would move on. back then like you said yourself, each State might not know what you have done
in the past without a full check which could take long periods of time, so most didn't bother unless the crime was severe or valid enough to warrant the search. petty theft
and robbing little old ladies would not send the FBI out in a "Full Metal Jacket" looking for you.

Today it's a different story making it impossible to try a cover your tracks, you gotta get up pretty damn early to fool the screws today!!!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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All those stupid bikers crashing on a curve left me wondering if there was anything more ridiculous, which could be done on a motorcycle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-k0yD-c58&feature=fvwrel

Losing control on a two wheeled vehicle and crashing into a parked one is truly as stupid as one can get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbdJxFjRe6E&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Just like the old saying; Stupid people are like busses, just wait a little and another will come along and be bigger. Really, he lost control on four wheels and crashed into a group of motorcycles parked way off the road to be safe? I think the only safe place is in your home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlB-BT4S3o&feature=fvwrel

Wrong again. I even found another ‘Walter Mitty Easy Rider’ on a road from the east coast called the ‘Tail of the Dragon’. Much like Mulholland in California, it serves as an idiot magnet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6XT4B47vIU

OK, so I was wrong about the level of stupid, one person could produce earlier. This guy is an embarrassment to asshat wearing assclowns, from Astoria. What is the theoretical maximum for moronic behavior? Would it have helped if there was a cop car, with lights flashing, around a group of other cars, with people shouting and ummm….. how about a rock slide blocking the entire road for that extra, biblical, even God hates you touch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBmE92n5mEI

As the dust settles and the clouds part, behold the product of air bags, onboard computers, padded dashboards, ABS, seatbelts, On-Star, crumple zones, collapsible steering columns, inertial fuel shut-offs, energy absorbing bumpers, radial tires, disc brakes, head restraints, shoulder belts, laminated glass, un-leaded fuel and intermittent windshield wipers, which have collectively preserved the likes of this guy.

I hope these little videos will serve as a sort of visual salve to relieve the mental anguish resulting from reading about fingerprints which change, electric underwear that receives navigation signals, prison skydiving training, rivers that flow up-hill, FBI conspiracies, time travel, the inverse laws of Newton, vast global incompetence, hyperbole based bombast and the greater offenses due to appear in the next two pages of comments.

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RobertMBlevins recalls:

“On a more serious note, helmets are always a good idea. I did nursing home work for a while when I was in college. Saw this guy...six foot four, maybe 240 pounds, he could have been a pro football player. He got brain-damaged from crashing without a helmet. After that, he wore diapers and had to be fed and couldn't speak a word. And he drooled constantly. He was only twenty years old.”


Unfortunately, I’ve never seen anyone who believes their own bullshit when it comes to driver safety. But they sure worry about everyone else’s safety and health, while making it a punishable offense. I’ve always worn helmets, even before the law. I had a helmet stolen, while on a trip across country. On my way to a cicle shop, I passed a cop who naturally pulled me over for not having a lid. I explained what happened and how I couldn’t imagine someone stealing such a thing. He told me about the latest drug called meth, which has people stealing whatever isn’t nailed down, and sort of blamed me for not taking it into the restaurant. He then escorted me to the store to make sure I was going to do what I said. Gee, I wonder what sort of people he deals with all the time, imagine not doing what you say. Weird.

Number one expense relating to automobile crashes is….. head trauma. Yep, head trauma in a car is just as diaper and drool inducing as the trauma some helmetless idiot on a sled experiences. How many times do you or your ‘loved ones’ wear helmets in your cars? Feeling that tingle of duplicity rising up your spine? If helmets are always a good idea, then it’s always a good idea to wear one, but no one ever does (but they can PREACH). Not even the doctors who treat such horrendous injuries day in and day out wear one. In fact, the same profession (doctors) who decry the evil that is obesity and cholesterol, are among the highest percentage owners of McDonalds and Burger King franchises. Way to go guys!

The BEST and most effective treatment for crashes is avoidance. Do you really believe, in your heart of hearts, that the videos of motorcycles, helicopters and cars were examples of responsible vehicle operation? Would the same philosophy be followed regarding bank robberies, where customers are required to wear body armor, as a solution to preventing gunshot injuries, OR would the bank robber be removed from the equation? Oops, bank robbers aren’t motorcycle helmets and neither of them are DB Cooper, so none of this makes sense. Perhaps we should get back to the twenty six fingered suspect and his botched (read: not found culpable) investigation.

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If the helmet is a good idea in situation X, THEN it would naturally improve the outcome in all other situations, including taking a shower. Otherwise, you need to establish some criteria for your baseline of acceptable death and dismemberment. I notice that when someone dies of lung cancer, the papers typically mention how they smoked two packs a day. That is a strange thing to report considering how when a person is killed in a car, they don’t mention how many miles they drive a year. Cuz if quitting or reducing tobacco consumption is good for your health, cutting back on driving would be too. But people want to drive, so they behave piously about things they don’t do, like chew tobacco and ride. New York City has found the cure for obesity by outlawing large drinks. That should keep all the fat asses baffled as they inexplicably begin to slim down, and enter the domain of anorexia.

As far as the preaching, it can’t be escaped. When I would carry my brain-bucket in the grocery store, someone would often feel compelled to tell me a “I had a friend that rode those things, left half his face on the highway” fables, while all I wanted to do was purchase a few items and hit on the cashier.

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Duane has very distinctive age lines on each side of his cheek and above his cheek seems "puffy" the only picture where he looks like Cooper is your profile pic.

Duane had high cheek bones but his cheeks were NOT PUFFY. Of course he had age lines - what do you think the artist tried to show in the composite?

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Duane also would of been blind as a bat if he didn't have his glasses on.

Duane Weber was FAR SIGHTED!
Do you know what that means?
It means he had NO problem seeing things FAR AWAY - like an EAGLE. Being far sighted meant he could shoot a branch off a tree from quiet a distance.

Duane did NOT wear his glass all the time at home. The only problem that far sighted individuals have is judgement upclose of distance. Duane could function very well without his glasses and his drivers license did NOT require he wear glasses.
Except maybe in the last few yrs before he died - I would have to look at the old license to see what it says.

As for WA and OR - the ONLY time that was mentioned was when we went out there in 1979.

There was ONE mention of WA in 1978 - by his friend Ed Hurand. Ed was sick and asked Duane if we could stop by and make a run to the drugstore for him. While Duane was gone I asked Ed where he knew Duane from. He started to talk about helicopters and planes and WA.

I commented I never knew Duane was in WA. He realized he had said something he should not and was upset. He didn't just ask - he begged me NOT to mention to Duane what he had said. I promised and I did not ask Duane. Ed had told me that perhaps someday Duane might tell me about those times of his life.

Ed is the one whose last name I am uncertain of the spelling. We were at a meeting and I was taking pictures of people - I usually had a camera in my hand. At this meeting - the men all walked away and Ed was refusing to allow me to take a picture of him. Duane spoke to him and then Ed let me take the picture.

I asked Duane what he told him - he said he told him it was for our private photo album and no one would ever see it. NO one did until all of the Cooper stuff came up and I was trying to find out what Ed was talking about.

Note when I got downstairs I was told NO cameras allowed, but I had already taken some pics upstairs and some of the women.

Ed was the ONLY guy whose pic I got.

What do you read into those happening of events. It was after this meeting that Duane had to deliver a PACKAGE to an individual I now know had mafia connections. The package must have been an envelope and inside of Duane's suit jacket.

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The word "AFT" is a Navy, or nautical, term. While Duane may have worn a sailor's uniform for a short while, I seriously doubt that he would have learned much sailor lingo before he was discovered and booted out of the Navy. As I recall it, Duane didn't go to boot camp in the Navy. Non-nautical types would probably have referred to them as the "REAR STAIRS" unless they had read a book that used the term "AFT STAIRS".

WHERE IN THE HELL DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM? I HAVE DUANE'S NAVY RECORDS AND COPIES OF ALL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN HIS MOTHER AND THE OFFICIALS. WITHOUT PULLING THE RECORD. THEY GIVE THE TRAINING LOCATIONS AND THAT HE WAS THEN SENT TO JACKSONVILLE. HE WAS THERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS..

When you make a statement like that BE SURE YOU have YOUR DUCKS in a row because I will more than SHOOT you down!
If you know someone in my area who can get that file onto the DZ - I can make it available for them to do so. OTHER WISE STOP YOUR ATTACKS THAT HAVE NO FACTS TO BACK THEM UP. YOU ARE A SCOUNDREL IN THE LOWEST FORM.

Perhaps you meant to say when Duane was in the ARMY for a few weeks.

I have tried to be very honest and forthright and be a lady but you just pushed the WRONG buttons.

Then You ROBT go on to make the following statements!

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However, that is not the way the system operates.

I'll bet the FBI asked you for believable evidence that would tie Duane Weber, aka John Collins and several other names, to any crime. Unfortunately, you did not have anything other than decades old conversations and a dead suspect.

THEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE FBI OPERATES! The FBI NEVER ASKED me for anything until many yrs later when they wanted DNA in 2003 - 5 yrs after they had dismissed Duane with a letter that dismissed him on prints ONLY.

Robert99 - you are obviously not qualified to provide any such information because I have DOCUMENTS that dispute all YOU HAVE STATED. How much did YOU drink today? Please STATE YOUR QUALIFICATION to make the ABOVE STATEMENTS you made REGARDING DUANE's time in the NAVY and WHAT the FBI MAY and MAY NOT have required.

I HAVE ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE FBI AND THE NAVY RECORD! The likes of you WILL not stop me - the only thing you make me want to do is to GO PUBLIC again. With the ignorance you just displayed perhaps that is a pretty good idea! Especially if you represent the government in anyway what so ever.

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I’ve never heard of a person with 26 fingerprints, but that’s different now thanks to the always focused and logical DB Cooper thread.

At first I thought Duane would be the world’s fastest touch typist with a finger for every letter. But that distinction would only last until someone with 45 fingers came along who could handle the punctuation and numeric keys. Fortunately, I caught myself just in time there, cuz that could have been embarrassing.

Then because I had a day off and several friends over, I decided to take inventory of my fingers and was saddened to realize I’ve got but ten. After a few hugs and a lot of tears, I was reassured that having ten fingers, fit well within the national average for a person of my age, height and weight. What a relief, but why was nature so generous to Duane, and stingy with the rest of us?

Here’s a medical explanation which should demystify the subject, while preserving the thread’s honor and credibility and stuff.

Duane was probably born with an underdeveloped, parasitic twin who would have supplied ten more prints besides Duane’s. You see, the parasitic twin would lift lady’s purses, room keys and jewelry while Duane kept them distracted with his magnetic charms. That’s how Duane managed to get away with so many crimes and only spend a scant 17 years in prisons and jails. He was that good.

But hey, there were 26 fingerprints and I’ve only covered 20. Here’s where the story gets a little weird…. so I’m going to beg for a little indulgence for a moment. Duane’s underdeveloped, parasitic twin…. had an underdeveloped, parasitic twin with three fingers on each hand. The three fingered, second underdeveloped, parasitic twin couldn’t help with stealing from women on vacation, but his three fingered hands were perfect for tuning the Daka-Ware knobs, used on the receiver of electric underwear, which picked up navigation signals. It’s actually pretty obvious if you take the time to think about it.

Obviously one person with his underdeveloped, parasitic twins would account for 26 fingerprints, the successful body of crimes and the operation of the electric underpants. It’s not that much of a leap to see how he was probably DB Cooper. Now if the FBI would only take the time to investigate Duane’s 26 fingerprints, there is no reason there shouldn’t be 26 matches from Flight 305.

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"Duane Weber was FAR SIGHTED!
Do you know what that means? "

yeas I do, this means he would have problem to a certain extent inside a plane (close quarters) with having to concentrate on what he was doing.

I could be wrong but in several of those pics, those glasses look mighty thick.

"what do you think the artist tried to show in the composite? "
I only see the lines from the nose downward to the outer mouth on the composite, Duane's were further out on his cheeks.

I would try to get a hold of Florence Schaffner and see what she thinks of Duane? if she hasn't already seen pics of him, even Florence
has changed Coopers appearance, hair style is totally different!

"fingerprints were negative (all 26 prints) " was referring to 26 sets of prints.....sorry.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"It was LOCAL FBI knew very little about Cooper nor did they question why Duane obtained and how he obtained a legal Florida Drivers License under John C. Collins..."

Back in the day, Forida as well as other states I'm sure didn't require picture ID for a drivers License, Birth certificate or S.S. card was enough, these could easily be changed
and the system was not up to date enough to catch these things. (100% Legal)

Excuse me perhaps we are all speaking a DIFFERENT Language here.

It was 1990 when Duane obtain a drivers license under John Collins (forget the prior use of that name).

Duane had a FL drivers license issued to Duane L. Weber and yet he goes to the same office and requests a drivers license under another name. That was crazy. They refuse and he drives to the next county and gets the license - NOTE 1990! I have the damn receipt of the license and the license itself - bought the day before they went to arrest him at the shop for trying to obtain a license under that name in Santa Rosa on the same day he obtained the one in Escambia.

THIS is just too far OUT! I know I do not make myself clear, but I try. I do better on the phone if anyone needs clarification of what I am trying to say.

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Tommy Gunn
Tony Wong
Ray Griffin
Ex-wife

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Stella
Wolfgang
Four Eyes
Cheknee Canoe
Tonto!
Mrs. Quan
Hsaing Chan
Tommy Tooth
Betty Butt
Big Byrd
Rothstein
Gilbert the Golash
Terry 'Dog' Smith
Appendectomy
Marshall Stern
Lose Change
Vera
Minny
Molly
Barbara Grate
RobertMBlevins
Jane Fondu
Madolyn Monroe
Clara Arrow
Gadzooks Whale
Kollar Bone
Boner Smiley
Tipsy Toote
Tina Marvel
Betty Boop
Harry Schlam
Ralph Boeing
Jimmy G. History
En Surance
For Rum
Edith Message
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How much time did you spend thinking up all the names for that senseless list? Just wondering. And you expect people to take you seriously as someone who is 'investigating the DB Cooper case,' aka 'ALMOST' a member of the Citizen Sleuths Team?

Reality Check. You knew that was coming, right? The last time I brought up the Sleuths, you went off whining to Tom Kaye. Your credibility=ZERO.
No wonder they decided not to include you. Not a real surprise, you think?

If that doesn't get through to you, maybe you should just do THIS.

Failing that, there's not much else to say..

If I could play like Rick Nielsen, I'd die a happy man.

Oh it took about 15+ seconds - are you jealous?

As for your personal attack (now two years old,
Tom addressed that himself to you, right here on
Dropzone. Sorry you missed (or dismissed) it. So
address it with Tom again, ... or this time give Tom
a break and discuss it with your proctologist instead,
since you obviously have an inflammatory disorder
of the intestine.

As for the names I posted re- Jo's case, Jo has
brought forth numerous names in relation to her
case over the years. Surely you are awareof that and
the role they play - or maybe you missed that too.
Jo is a name inventor and name dropper. (Just as
you are a concept inventor and 'allegation dropper'.

Ive always thought there is a relationship between
you and Jo. A pattern of similarity. I am sure I'm
not the only one who thinks (or sees) that. So much
for your use of the concept: credibility!

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Do I speak for anyone else around here when I say this:

I would like to see the full names of some of the witnesses regarding The Life of Duane.

And people say I'm full of it sometimes...geez.

And you just came down on me for posting FAKE NAMES! ???

wOAAAAAH DO I SENSE hypo-cracy ?

Can you fit names into a canoe without tipping over!?

Lets start with "Geestman" !

And, "That Woman" - that's a name. (as you use it)

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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.

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The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

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The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

Priceless, again.

Hell will freeze over if they just expell enough
vapour and heat!

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The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

Yes, we are. There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference.

So doctor, heel thyself of no credibility!

Or see a proctologist, pronto. Medicare could deny
you for intentional procrastination -

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Yes, we are. There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference. It presents a record that can be checked.

I've answered questions aplenty around this village. But sometimes people cherry-pick, or go personal, or they don't really listen to what is being said. So sometimes I blow people off when they have no manners. Anyone who is really investigating the case understands that sometimes it's better to ask questions privately, rather than on the internet...

Wait...problem for you. That would mean identifying yourself. I forgot that part.

I'm not here to sell some book, or to try the case in public. The REAL reason I'm here is to help discover the answer. You know what? It probably ISN'T Christiansen. The simple odds are against it, considering the number of people who could have done it.

I'm also not the type to take time out of my busy day to research this point or that for a thread containing a lot of impolite folks (not you, Farflung) and then post up those things publicly. Look who hangs out here besides me? Or even you? Some of them do not have both oars in the water.

I only deal seriously with people I KNOW. I never liked one-way streets. It's kind of like my caller ID. If I don't recognize the name, I usually ignore the call and they can leave a message.

Seems like we both share a lot of frustrations with the thread now - all they do is pick on you or me. I do my share of picking on you because I am biased to my own suspect. BUT, what is going on in the thread right now with some of the guys - is just too much.

I can't reveal everything I know, but as of late I have told lots of things I never put in the open before, but NOT to the extent someone could sue me.

With the world the way it is - one has to watch what they say or how they say it.

Recently we have some individuals who for some reason are claiming this or that - regarding a suspect and what they are saying just is NOT reasonable. If they had been following the suspect or have read all of the post or were knowledgeable regarding the things they state - that would be one thing.

Example - glasses appearing to thick and that being farsighted would have hindered Cooper. That is just purely ignoring certain things and throwing out trivia that is NOT science.

Glasses used to be thick and far sighted glasses caused the eyes to look larger, but farsighted individuals usually do NOT have the problems near-sighted ones do. As for a far-sighted person not being able to function in an airplane cabin - these guy need to go actually talk to the old Optometrist from the 70's to 80's. They need to be aware of the thickness of the glasses of yesterday. Hell, if they could see an OLD pair of my glasses from 1980 - these guys would say I was blind. A lot has changed in the world of GLASSES in the last 30 yrs.

That is just one example of what I am experiencing. You get one smart ass popping off and then suddenly there is a chorus in the background.

Spooks and naysayer and whatever they are called in the world of the web. This is no longer a thread exploring the possiblities of suspects or the Cooper case - it is all about these guys who want to toot abilities to disrupt and corrupt a thread...with NO knowledge of what they speak of.

I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Well, I am not a straw-woman and I have my convictions and I know what I know and until someone with some REAL know how and inside knowledge presents something solid they can talk to themselves - expect that has been their goal for sometime now.

I am surprised Quade would allow the badgering that has been rampant lately. Mrsshutter might be an OK guy but he knows nothing about optometry or lenses. He doesn't understand the angles of photos or the concept of composites.

Wait until the Facial ID makes it statement on national TV. Also some of the posters are showing me what they are for real. Everyone knows the composite done for a TV program was NEVER approved by the crew - one I will call the Mayfield composite. Florence was in complete disagreement with the composite that they made and used (the one for the TV program) not the official composites.

It is time for me to do what some parties have been wanting me to do for a long long time. I like my privacy, but what has to happen is LONG over Due. Just exactly how I am going to do this I do NOT know - one guy has been working on this for a long time - and I have been balking - so NOW - I am going to give him a free REIN....and I am going to do the UNSPEAKABLE.

Yea, it is UNSPEAKABLE and something NO one thought I would ever do - I didn't think I would. Now I am tired of waging this battle and someone else will do it for me.

Am I walking away - definitely not after all I am NOT a STAW woman, but I am not made of steel.

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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.

Jo, What is the source of your claims that Duane never used a gun or violence in a robbery?

So Duane was a thief with a heart of gold? After sleeping with his victims, he robbed them? I don't think he has any qualifications to claim "a heart of gold".

I have heard the term "a hooker with a heart of gold". If there is such a person, I guess they operate on a higher moral level than Duane did.

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FAR FLUNG - those 2 words of your post are the only words that need repeated from your post.

You are the biggest GOOF BALL on the thread bar none. Definitely you do NOT need to be encourage to continue to barrage the world with your nonsense....and naysayer attitude!

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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.

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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.

Robert99

Everyone who has ever tried learned long ago (15
years ago!) that trying to reason or debate with Jo
is like ... impossible. Same with Blevins. They have
an agenda. Its as simple as that and nothing will
penetrate it -

That they are still free walking among us to continue
their litany says something - not sure what. But its a
common occurrence in cults.

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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.

Jo, What is the source of your claims that Duane never used a gun or violence in a robbery?

So Duane was a thief with a heart of gold? After sleeping with his victims, he robbed them? I don't think he has any qualifications to claim "a heart of gold".

I have heard the term "a hooker with a heart of gold". If there is such a person, I guess they operate on a higher moral level than Duane did.

Robert99

What is YOUR Source OF INFORMATION Robert99? You have NONE!


You are the one who said "heart of gold" - what is your source?
The things I have learned about Weber's past are horrible and definitely NOT anything the man I knew would have done, but the BAD STUFF really happened.

Did it ever occur in your overloaded negative mine that perhaps something happened to Weber that caused him to change? Why would a man whose life had been taking from others make a complete turn-around? He supposedly even stole from his own mother.

Perhaps that is the BIG question you and others who claim to have so many "abilities" and "knowledge" should be asking themselves. What would cause a life time criminal to reform himself? One of the arguments has been age, but it took more than that to change him into the man he became and the man I knew.

Strange that Duane touched so many hearts and did so much good during his last yrs! Strange that in 1977 he seemed to AWAKEN. The crime happened in 1971, but something took over Weber's life - the woman he was married to until 1977 - thought he was a horrible person, but I never knew that horrible person.

Yet, his friend (he met in 1973 is still a friend to me to this day). He and his wife have stood solid with me and what I believe and the strange life I had with Duane and his confession. Duane and I even flew from CO to GA for their wedding). Duane touch the hearts people (all who knew him) - this man who we all found out was an excon with 17 yrs in prison. The friends, his employers, myself, my daughter, my family, casual and work aquaintances - no one could believe this man had spent 17 yrs in a prison - much less 5 prisons or more.

At first when I told some of them that he had been in prison - NONE of them could believe it. To his best friend, Duane did mention he had something in his past, but never spelled it out.

Duane had NO enemies in the yrs I knew him - everyone liked him and he was very generous with his time and money to help others. He was sweet, lovable, generous, kind, loving - I saw nothing of the horrible person I have been told about. Remember Tina called Cooper a "very sad man".

Frankly I think that was the turning point. He was desperate and strangely he survived - but he also changed. Was the change out of necessity to keep from being found out or did he really change deep down? Did what happened that night finally awaken in him the man he could be?

I cannot explain the fingerprints or the DNA. Was Cooper actually someone who Duane was with and a buddy he cared about. That thought has always been in my mind because of that one thing he said in WA "Maybe I was the one on the ground" 1979, but 11 days before he died he said "I'm Dan Cooper"1995. Twenty-two yrs and the only times that Cooper was mentioned during all of that time.

If he had been laying some elaborate story - he would have talked about "other" things - not just those 2 phrases. He tried in the hospital, but I had forgot about the remark he made on the trip. I did NOT know Dan Cooper was D.B. Cooper - my mind just could not wrap around something like that knowing he would be gone in a few days.

I don't have the answers, but I do know that if he was not Cooper that he damn sure knew who was - perhaps the other person buried in that old graveyard....and that he may have felt responsible if the skyjacking was his suggestion.

Right now I cannot remember the 2 names he mentioned withing a couple of hours of each other - and I have never found the connections between Duane and either of these men - but they both did exist and did live in the area. One in Washougal and the other in Bigg, OR. Coincidence!

I know that after the money find in 1980 that Duane quickly exited the area after doing some very unusual things.

Just Jo repeating her memories and trying to understand them.

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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.

Robert99

Excuse me! A "troll living under a bridge" I don't remember saying that - are you sure it was me?
If I said "moron" it must have been deserved! SEVERAL YEARS?

You have not been on this thread for SEVERAL yrs? If I said both of those things over a several yr period of time - you can bet you had me pissed off big time!

You would NOT want to know the things I call you after I get off the thread and before I chill out. If my written word was as sharp as my tongue I would have been band from the thread in a New York minute.

In a private moment of anger I am NOT a lady, but I stay in control or try to with the written word. I am sure I have "thought" every word one could apply to a man when I have been opposed.
A wimp I am not.

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so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Felix Baumgartner appeared earlier today on the Today Show on NBC. He "confessed" that he did not enjoy the jump, which proves that he is sane.

The Today segment had video from his body cameras during the wild spinning. The segment and video link can be found at "http://www.nbcnews.com" in the "Lifestyles" section.

The National Geographic Channel is planning to air a special on his jump on Sunday, November 11, titled: "Space Dive".

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I have to violently agree with everyone else that all the latest photos of Duane look nothing like the Cooper composite. He would be blind as a bat trying to tie knots or look at money in a bag since he was verified as farsighted by doctors and people with big ass titles. He would need those coke-bottles in the airplane to find the aft stairs. No argument there.

The only thing that makes any sense is the ‘Electronic Underwear’ that Duane wore to receive navigation signals through some sort of vibrating device, which I don’t completely understand. Too complex for me and several amateur radio licensees, one with a double ‘E’. I’m afraid Duane probably took that secret to his grave, unlike his other confessions where he was hijacking Kool-Aid from every store and pantry he entered. Oh, yeaahh!