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Bob,

You are an expert in injection molding. You've done some work putting huge engines in tiny cars. What was it that made the dark ops guys choose you? Why on earth would a shady covert op even WANT a record keeper? Records can be discovered.

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In 1968 I was a college drop-out with a draft notice. I refused the draft. I was drafted for the ops by my investigator, Mac. Mac wanted a witness to support his activities as official. I was not called for his trial, he didn't talk, neither did I. I was ordered to participate by Commander John Anderson who later ran for President. Same guy.

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Me Telling MY side
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Jo has a story to tell about that conversation and I guess I should have posted it that night, but I didn't want to hurt his feelings.

WELL, I played Dangerous Dan.....:D:D:D



Well, you've just had any sympathy evaporate.
More games, teases, and let's be honest, bullshit from you. Either you were "playing" him as you say, or you weren't and are now trying to cover it up. Either way, it's pathetic.

As for your sudden claim of "fiftyish"... for years on this thread we have spoken about forties, even sometimes considering people in their late 30s. You've never disputed the age as being 40s before. All of a sudden you decide to add another ten years?

I hope Green Elf (a welcome, reasoned poster) manages to stick around through all these yards and yards of rubbish (and no Jo it's not just you - Blevins too. Miles and miles of NOTHING OF VALUE.) I can't say I was over the moon to see Knoss posting again, but at least he keeps his posts mercifully short.

Can you believe it - I have just made a statement that puts Knoss in a positive light, even if only a relative basis. Maybe it's time I took a break. [:/]
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FBI transcripts taken immediately after the crime say Fiftyish.



Really? Prove it. Show us one from your well-kept files. It must at least be easier to prove than your claim that Duane was anything more than a two-bit thief.
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I’ve heard of phony as a 3 dollar bill but never as a two dollar bill.

Is this like RobertMBlevins use of a block of Swiss cheese to illustrate how full of holes a story can be when in fact blocks of Swiss cheese have no holes? That’s right, blocks of Swiss cheese have bubbles made from yeast farts I think. Anyway, the only time the holes become apparent is after you cut the cheese.

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Really? Prove it. Show us one from your well-kept files. It must at least be easier to prove than your claim that Duane was anything more than a two-bit thief.



A two-bit thief that could be trusted who made a deal for his life. MKUltra insured his loyalty. This I can testify to.

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Bob,

Why do you get nasty so suddenly? I am referring to the title of your post. Try to stay civil, its not so hard.

You sure were an obedient boy. You refuse the draft, but obey orders from a "Commander"?

So they take a draft dodging kid and order him to be the record keeper for a very secret and sinister covert illegal domestic op... is that logical? Couldnt they find someone a little more qualified and aligned with their goals?

And McCoy goes to prison rather than call you as a witness who will exonerate him?

McCoy hated prison enough to die trying to get out and stay out. If he could have avoided it by exposing your program why didnt he do that?

Ted Braden got out of an AWOL/desertion case and dodged a dishonorable discharge by playing some card, why wouldnt McCoy?

Why would the govt let McCoy be imprisoned if he was part of a program?

When you burn an operative by putting him in prison you sure increase the chances that he will rat out the program.

So many logical inconsistencies in your story Bob, including your impractical unworkable ideas about Duooper's (Duane and Cooper merged) parachutes.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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A two-bit thief that could be trusted...



Excuse me Bob, TRUSTED? You must be kidding.

TRUSTED to do what? More two bit thieving and screwups that would lead to an arrest and conviction?

TRUSTED not to steal $200,000 in cash if by some miracle he got his thieving hands on it?

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As for your sudden claim of "fiftyish"... for years on this thread we have spoken about forties, even sometimes considering people in their late 30s. You've never disputed the age as being 40s before. All of a sudden you decide to add another ten years?


This information came from some communications with the plane when the crew informed the tower they had a skyjacker aboard. Some one actually posted the minutes of that event and inquired regarding the age of the jumper - Fiftyish was the reply from the stewardess.

It was in this thread, but I do not know who posted it - probably Sluggo or Georger or someone else who had access to the minutes taken by the tower and the plane and then the journalist as the crew was being escorted for questioning. BUT IT IS THERE SOME PLACE AND NO I DID NOT IMAGE THIS.

Perhaps when someone finds it they will realize there are things I do not forget - I just can't file them in an organized way in my mind. I remember what I see, but not always the details unless it stands out to me for a reason.
I read this not too long ago. I was thinking it was while Cooper was on the plane and the ground wanted to know what ever the stewardesses could tell them about the skyjacker.
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Bob,

McCoy hated prison enough to die trying to get out and stay out. If he could have avoided it by exposing your program why didnt he do that?
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Why would the govt let McCoy be imprisoned if he was part of a program?

When you burn an operative by putting him in prison you sure increase the chances that he will rat out the program.

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Not MY program, Mac's program. After 2 yrs he DID force an agreement. He became an undercover US Marshall who caught a fugitive who was allowed to escape (Walker). He was 'eliminated' as Richard McCoy and was renamed 'Tommy Gunn' as an undercover. He made several famous arrests (one as 'Captain Tommy Gunn' on a river cruise with numerous underworld kingpins) and was one of the best in the business. He was the only person to ever be rehired according to the CIA. This stuff is too far out to make up. It is what happened and JT should know it. Lots of us know it. It is no secret, just hushed up. Mac was 'on loan' from the Pentagon his whole life and served in many roles.

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I’ve heard of phony as a 3 dollar bill but never as a two dollar bill.

Is this like RobertMBlevins use of a block of Swiss cheese to illustrate how full of holes a story can be when in fact blocks of Swiss cheese have no holes? That’s right, blocks of Swiss cheese have bubbles made from yeast farts I think. Anyway, the only time the holes become apparent is after you cut the cheese.



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A two-bit thief that could be trusted who made a deal for his life. MKUltra insured his loyalty. This I can testify to.



You "testifying" to something is not proof.

Come on, Jo, find it. Prove it. You've demanded for years that other people "prove" stuff - now it's your turn, and this is a lot easier than proving someone wasn't Cooper. And while you're at it, explain why you have never before disputed the forties age. You can't prove Duane was Cooper so show us that you can at least prove one of your claims. Incidentally now you say "someone posted it", but I would prefer primary source proof.

PS 377 - "Duooper" - I love it. Pronounced "dwooper" I presume....it's absolutely perfect. Onomatopoeic.
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I Will! Ya'll are gonna kick yourself when you see the answer to this mystery. You were that close to it the whole time! It's like one of those "I coulda had a V8" commercials. I think ya'll stood so close and looked so hard that nobody ever stood back and looked at the big picture. I will include an example video here to help illustrate. Watch the video very close and pay very close attention to the basketball players wearing the white shirts. They pass the ball. A truly genius Cooper sleuth can count the correct number of times the basketball is passed on the first viewing of the video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=player_embedded

Now you know what I mean?

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I will include an example video here to help illustrate. Watch the video very close and pay very close attention to the basketball players wearing the white shirts. They pass the ball. A truly genius Cooper sleuth can count the correct number of times the basketball is passed on the first viewing of the video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=player_embedded

Now you know what I mean?



Spill the beans then... Who's the gorilla? Until you do you are no better than Jo.
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He was 'eliminated' as Richard McCoy and was renamed 'Tommy Gunn' as an undercover

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For Heavens sake - Knoss you never even heard of Tommy Gunn when I first started talking to you - then you INVENT Tommy Gunn several months later - I have the Emails to Doug that prove this if and when anyone needs them.

THis is all I have to say to you so please do NOT reply. You alone have been the most damaging piece of crap regarding Weber and you alone are why the FBI walked away from further investigation into Weber. YOU introduced Conspiracy versus Weber and the FBI was NOT going to go there.

[BLUE]THE END! DO NOT REPLY THIS ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU.[/BLUE]
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377: The best thing to do is just ignore Bob Knoss. He has nothing to say that could even be mistaken as important to this case. He believes in George Nuttells theory and is using his book for a lot of his claims. This man eats to much chocolate . Jerry



Nuttall is only half right and Jo is half right. Combine the two and you might be 3/4 right. If my info matches George's, that's George's good guess. I don't listen to George. He rattles on forever and will not consider any other thoughts. Kind of a common Cooper trait. Can't eat chocolate, Jerry.

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THis is all I have to say to you so please do NOT reply. You alone have been the most damaging piece of crap regarding Weber and you alone are why the FBI walked away from further investigation into Weber. YOU introduced Conspiracy versus Weber and the FBI was NOT going to go there.

[BLUE]THE END! DO NOT REPLY THIS ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU.[/BLUE]



Now I'm laughing. First because Jo you kept on saying everything was Jerry's fault. Now it is Knoss's. I'm tempted to tell you to look in the mirror for the most damaging person to Duane's case. But the truth at the end of the day is simply that there is no proof, none whatsoever, not one shred of evidence, that Duane was Cooper. Duooper is simply the result of wild conjecture and leaps of logic, no more, no less.

I do wish Dan would stop playing games, give us the gorilla and then we can actually debate it properly. I have no idea if he has a real suspect or some Knossian version of one.
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Man Orange1 is ON today. I mean she usually (code for always) stays calm and avoids shrill behavior with knowledge and superior reasoning. Two things abhorred on this thread.

Looks like some people picked a bad week to give up NOT being a Bullshitter.

This both frightens and oddly excites me at the same time.

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For Heavens sake - Knoss you never even heard of Tommy Gunn when I first started talking to you - then you INVENT Tommy Gunn several months later - I have the Emails to Doug that prove this if and when anyone needs them.



McCoy told me his favorite TV show was Peter Gunn. Someday he was going to use the name 'Tommy Gunn' because he thought that was a really neat name. This was in the summer of 1968. I would think it safe to assume this was before I met you, Jo. Your information is incomplete. Sorry to anger you, that was not my wish.

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