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bozo 0
QuoteQuotehow much.....what colors ?????? :o)
Jeebus.. I spose you are gonna jump it too
i got a PC for LP too.
Ive jumped stuff other people thru away.
bozo
bozo
Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars.
JerryBaumchen 1,048
Hi Mark,
To know where the term 'cheapo' comes from you have to go farther back than any commenter so far.
Back in the early-mid '60's there were really just two canopies for sport use, a 1.1 oz 'cheapo or a 1.6 oz Lo-Po. The '1.6' (as we called it) was just like a 1.1 (28 ft flat canopy) except that it was made of a 1.6 oz material that had been calendarized (flattened) in a pressing-type of procedure to reduce the porosity and to (hopefully) make it come down slower.
Hence, the 'Lo-Po' which derived the 'cheapo.'
School is out for today,
Jerry
To know where the term 'cheapo' comes from you have to go farther back than any commenter so far.
Back in the early-mid '60's there were really just two canopies for sport use, a 1.1 oz 'cheapo or a 1.6 oz Lo-Po. The '1.6' (as we called it) was just like a 1.1 (28 ft flat canopy) except that it was made of a 1.6 oz material that had been calendarized (flattened) in a pressing-type of procedure to reduce the porosity and to (hopefully) make it come down slower.
Hence, the 'Lo-Po' which derived the 'cheapo.'
School is out for today,
Jerry
A 7TU made from a C-9 28 foot flat military canopy.
See attachment
Bozo,
B-4 with a sleeved 7TU, chest mount container with a 24' flat, a Pioneer double zipper jumpsuit and a pair of French boots. The jumpsuit and the boots fit.
$125.00
(Gary Hatenswiller grounded the reserve)
See attachment
Bozo,
B-4 with a sleeved 7TU, chest mount container with a 24' flat, a Pioneer double zipper jumpsuit and a pair of French boots. The jumpsuit and the boots fit.
$125.00
(Gary Hatenswiller grounded the reserve)
My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals
jbrasher 0
Diito.
Red, White and Blue Skies,
John T. Brasher D-5166
Red, White and Blue Skies,
John T. Brasher D-5166
murrays 0
I have one of those in my garage right now...in beautiful shape. made my first several jumps on 7TU C9s...
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Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
drjump 0
The term 'Rag" probalbly originated with the fact that the military surplus canopies (cheapo) were often full of masking tape patches! Later on rip stop tape arrived to save the day. These patches were required due to the many holes, the old round canopies received from 'off' airport landings. Trees, fences, broken bottles, etc. Early modifications were made with a sharp knife or scissors and masking tape. This tape would only last for a few jumps and then the edges would start fraying= a rag looking appearance. Rags vs Cheapos? They were both military surplus that could be bought inexpensively.
JerryBaumchen 1,048
Wow,
Gar Hat, now there's a named I haven't heard in years. Met him at Elsinore in '67.
I heard that (in those days) he bought a hand ripcord swager and paid for it within a month or so making ripcords for people who had functions and had to throw it away. No hand-deploy (thanks Bill) in those days.
Jerry
Gar Hat, now there's a named I haven't heard in years. Met him at Elsinore in '67.
I heard that (in those days) he bought a hand ripcord swager and paid for it within a month or so making ripcords for people who had functions and had to throw it away. No hand-deploy (thanks Bill) in those days.
Jerry
1888 0
As I haven't seen any posts that go as far back as I do, I offer this as the original birth of the term "rag gore"
During the early 60's while in the USMC in North Carolina we made "cheap-o's" using two different methods.
One was to sew reinforcing tape completely around the modification in each modified gore. The second was to sew the reinforcing tape only across the top of the modification and leave the sides and bottom, along the suspencion lines and skirt without the reinforcing tape. The thought was that these wouldn't rip out because of the reinforcement already there. This proved to be correct, however the nylon canopy material that was left after the cutting of the modification would turn "raggy" after use. Hence the term "rag gore" was invented. With the help of a buddy I could turn out a completed sport rig in about two evenings. This included the modification, sleeve and D rings and sold for $15. The rig itself was free, courtsy of Uncle Sam,s supply system which discarded them after 7 years, used or not.
During the early 60's while in the USMC in North Carolina we made "cheap-o's" using two different methods.
One was to sew reinforcing tape completely around the modification in each modified gore. The second was to sew the reinforcing tape only across the top of the modification and leave the sides and bottom, along the suspencion lines and skirt without the reinforcing tape. The thought was that these wouldn't rip out because of the reinforcement already there. This proved to be correct, however the nylon canopy material that was left after the cutting of the modification would turn "raggy" after use. Hence the term "rag gore" was invented. With the help of a buddy I could turn out a completed sport rig in about two evenings. This included the modification, sleeve and D rings and sold for $15. The rig itself was free, courtsy of Uncle Sam,s supply system which discarded them after 7 years, used or not.
1888 0
As I haven't seen any posts that go as far back as I do, I offer this as the original birth of the term "rag gore".
During the early 60's while in the USMC in North Carolina we modified canopies using two different methods.
One was to sew nylon reinforcing tape completely around each modification in each gore. The second was to sew the reinforcing tape only across the top of the modification and to leave the sides along the suspension lines and the bottom along the skirt without the tape. The thought was that these wouldn't fail due to the nylon reinforcing material already there. This proved to be correct, however the canopy material along the non-reinforced area would fray and become "raggy" looking, hence the term "rag gore" was born. A buddy & I could turn out a completed sport rig in about two evenings. This included the canopy modification, sleeve and D rings and sold for $15. The rig itself was free, due to Uncle Sam's supply system which discarded them used or not after 7 years.
During the early 60's while in the USMC in North Carolina we modified canopies using two different methods.
One was to sew nylon reinforcing tape completely around each modification in each gore. The second was to sew the reinforcing tape only across the top of the modification and to leave the sides along the suspension lines and the bottom along the skirt without the tape. The thought was that these wouldn't fail due to the nylon reinforcing material already there. This proved to be correct, however the canopy material along the non-reinforced area would fray and become "raggy" looking, hence the term "rag gore" was born. A buddy & I could turn out a completed sport rig in about two evenings. This included the canopy modification, sleeve and D rings and sold for $15. The rig itself was free, due to Uncle Sam's supply system which discarded them used or not after 7 years.
ripcord4 0
QuoteA 7TU made from a C-9 28 foot flat military canopy.
See attachment
Bozo,
B-4 with a sleeved 7TU, chest mount container with a 24' flat, a Pioneer double zipper jumpsuit and a pair of French boots. The jumpsuit and the boots fit.
$125.00
(Gary Hatenswiller grounded the reserve)
Sparky, I had a rig and gear identical to yours. Many jumps back in the day on that rig.
From a September, 1974, Jump Shack add in Spotter Magazine.
HW
HW
steve1 5
This guy just blew up his ragged out 28 ft. canopy. I'm not sure which panel was blown out, but he ripped it from stem to stern and had to cut away. Gees, it feels good to be alive after doing something like that!.....Steve1
Jeebus.. I spose you are gonna jump it too
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