Harksaw 0 #1 September 11, 2003 Discussion we were having at the DZ the other day.... for One Hundred Million Dollars (TM)...... Would you jump out with no main and your reserve ripcord cut, with only a properly maintained and turned on Cypres to save you? Assuming no legal problems (there would be legalities in the US anyway, i'm not saying ANYONE should ever do this) Forgive me if this was posted here before, i tried searching but they are such common words __________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #2 September 11, 2003 Assume the cypres had been turned on on the ground at the dz where Im gonna get out... I would. Think of all the new kit and jumps you could get with that. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #3 September 11, 2003 No RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymick 0 #4 September 11, 2003 Ummm...would probably say yes on that..would want the spot to be good though..dont think you'll have much time to setup for landing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 September 11, 2003 100 million large.... sign me up. Then again I have a jump from 700 ft and a whole bunch from 1200 ft...and they were military riggers who packed No Cypress on any of those. I trust mine. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #6 September 11, 2003 yes. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #7 September 11, 2003 Nope. Only way my Cypres fires is if I am incapacitated. Period. Greed makes my mouth water but it doesnt incapacitate me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #8 September 11, 2003 YES I can then do loads more jumps If i make that one and it would be a rushwww.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #9 September 11, 2003 More importantly - would your answer change if it were for $100. Mine would. $100,000,000 is worth the risk TO ME, but my answer changes quickly as you take away zero's. You will note that I consider doing this a RISK... the telling part of the story that all too many people today do not consider it to be a RISK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phonics1981 0 #10 September 11, 2003 Hell yes! Anyway, if it doesnt work i'm sure Airtec give you a life time guarantee... ------------------------------------------------------ "Ive given up on sigs cos I make a mess of them!" ------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #11 September 11, 2003 I made the number so large because I didn't want this to degrade into a "Well, a million dollars really isnt that much money anymore" debate. People do trust their cypreses probably too much. I honestly don't think I would do it for any amount of money. 750 feet deployment is waaaay too close for comfort.__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #12 September 11, 2003 Nope. 100 million for possibly losing my life isn't worth it. CYPRES must fire. Must fire in time. Canopy must get inflated in time. I prefer to play the odds on this. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luv2Fall 0 #13 September 11, 2003 No, I wouldn't. I trust my Cypress but only as a backup..................so it would be extremely hard to transition my trust (for one jump) as the only opening device I have........regardless of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #14 September 11, 2003 I'd do it - but only because I think the risk of being killed in a car wreck commuting to a job is far greater over the remainder of your lifetime. (My best friend and I were SO NEARLY taken out in a car wreck yesterday.) tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
321seeya 0 #15 September 11, 2003 Would I be able to use a tandem cypres? They fire higher.... DJ BASE 3:16 - Even if you are about to land on a cop - DONT FORGET TO FLARE! Free the soul -- DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #16 September 11, 2003 I agree if you make it life will be cushiewww.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #17 September 11, 2003 Does my family get the money if/when (it will be when if you do it often enough) it all goes wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #18 September 11, 2003 I would rather take a chance on spending the rest of my life earning a hundred million, than receiving it based on a risk of seconds to live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 September 11, 2003 QuoteCYPRES must fire. Must fire in time. Canopy must get inflated in time. Get really stable and realllly big.. so the reserve opening doesnt THWACK you as bad.... oh.. anf for the 1 Million.. that is enuff zeros for me as well. We trust our lives to small pieces of technology every day.. and we pay for them. In this case pay me and I will jump this piece of technology. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #20 September 11, 2003 Sure. However, I would prefer to have two canopies. I'd be less reluctant if there was a tandem cypres deployed main, a cuttaway handle, and a expert cypres/rsl deployed reserve. The Cypres has proven its reliability. I have no concerns over it malfunctioning. I DO have concerns over packjobs, and would like to have a backup. I also trust my Cypres more then I trust my harness. Harnesses have a higher rate of failure then properly maintained Cypres's. Before anyone flames me too harshly, I have jumped without a Cypres, and have no problems doing it in the future. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #21 September 11, 2003 No Cha Ching is worth that risk, Not worth the risk of never being with my Wife and Kids again... Now if i was 21 again hell yes.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neilly 0 #22 September 11, 2003 Of course you are expecting the reserve to open with no problems, a million sounds fun, BUT your cypes is only there to release your reserve, If there is a problem, ouch... Still you wouldnt have much time to worry about it,Fly like an aardvark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mofo554 0 #23 September 11, 2003 What are the reliability statistics of a cypres? I am assuming that a brand new or newer, well maintained cypres would not be prone to failure. Of course all electronic devices can fail.... Anyways, for $100 Million....I'd jump it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #24 September 11, 2003 No fucking way. Its a cool toy but thats just stupid. I see many of the "CYPRES Generation" say they would... Well I don't find that surprizing at all to be honest."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #25 September 11, 2003 Interesting question. My cypress is a backup, nothing more. I don't expect it to ever work. However, for 100,000,000 I'd really have to think about it. I don't know what the statistical reliability of it is under those circumstances. I know that it is very highly unlikely to misfire provided I pull at proper altitude. I know it has a good chance of firing when it should. But without knowing the expected chance of failure, I'd have to say no...I don't trust it enough. If I was given evidence that there was a high statistical probability that it would work. Then I'd probably risk it for 100,000,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
