Fleahop 0 #1 May 18, 2006 We have an AN2 that we can Jump do we bring it or not? How many people want to jump this aircraft?Don't just knock on deaths door...Kick it down and run like hell! He hates that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #2 May 18, 2006 cost per ticket? Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleahop 0 #3 May 18, 2006 That will depend on the owner but I would recomend to him a regular jump priceDon't just knock on deaths door...Kick it down and run like hell! He hates that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #4 May 18, 2006 Is that the one I told you about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleahop 0 #5 May 18, 2006 No sir this is a different aircraft. They never got back in touch with me.Don't just knock on deaths door...Kick it down and run like hell! He hates that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duroejc 0 #6 May 19, 2006 Didn't think AN2 was approved for skydiving operations. Isn't it "experimental" in the US Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Froggy 0 #7 May 19, 2006 QuoteDidn't think AN2 was approved for skydiving operations. Tell that to any skydiver from Russia and watch for the reaction! -------------- We were not born to fly. And all we can do is to try not to fall... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 May 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteDidn't think AN2 was approved for skydiving operations. Tell that to any skydiver from Russia and watch for the reaction! Yup... or Czech jumpers.... With that said, the only advantage to the AN-2 over, say, a 182 is that it carries more jumpers. It's certainly not a fast plane to altitude, at least not in my experience (Karlovy Vary).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 May 19, 2006 Isn't it "experimental" in the US Theres that ADD peeking out again. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astor 0 #10 May 19, 2006 Well, I did all my 3 jumps up to now from An2 - and preparing for the 4th tomorrow... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #11 May 19, 2006 Will I jump it if it comes? Yes. Will I make several jumps? Probably not. That is one slooow airplane. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrickyDicky 0 #12 May 19, 2006 QuoteWe have an AN2 that we can Jump do we bring it or not? How many people want to jump this aircraft? Surely it doesnt matter how many people want to jump it. You'll only have time for 1 lift to 10k at the WFFC. :) UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #13 May 19, 2006 It would take forever. An-2 is really slow to climb. Effective celing is about 2500m. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faicon9493 133 #14 May 19, 2006 Many years ago, a DZ in Hebron, IL had a AN-2. I remember it as having a roomy cabin but extremely slow getting to altitude. It was great, however, to have a chance to jump a rare aircraft, in this country anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrickyDicky 0 #15 May 19, 2006 From what Ive heard, when empty, they can have a groundspeed of 0knts in a 30knt headwind. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #16 May 19, 2006 An interesting note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions (blind flying when you can’t see the ground) or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft (it won’t stall) and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 40 mph (64 km/h), and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 25 mph [40 km/h], the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground." Stall Speed: 35-40kts. but controlled descents are possible at 25kts. or 30mph. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shunkka 0 #17 May 19, 2006 i have more than 90 jumps from an AN2 (in romania) it climbs very very slow- 45 minutes to 10K- with 11-13 skydivers the exit is at 140 km/h and the dor is on the left side why anyone would love to jump from this kind of AC if they have there a lot of faster/bigger/softer AC?? only to mark in a logbook that u jump from an AN2 too? ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fleahop 0 #18 May 19, 2006 To me that is what the WFFC is all about. Jumping aircraft that you can't go jump very often if at all any where else. Seeing old friends and getting to do unique things. As for 10k on altitude if it is that slow and most people will only jump it once or twice then why not jump at 5 or 6k. But ya to put it in the log book that is the only reason I would want the jump.Don't just knock on deaths door...Kick it down and run like hell! He hates that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChrisL 2 #19 May 19, 2006 I believe that I read in the forum on WFFC site that they are already planning to get an AN2 or that they are trying to get one. Its not yet on their list of confirmed aircraft, but if I'm understanding it right they are trying to get one...__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #20 May 19, 2006 QuoteI believe that I read in the forum on WFFC site that they are already planning to get an AN2 or that they are trying to get one. Its not yet on their list of confirmed aircraft, but if I'm understanding it right they are trying to get one... Thats exactly the conversation that we are having. Great thing about DZ.com is you get to talk to all kinds of skydivers from all over the world. Including those who organize things like WFFC Or at least, fleahop is seeming to represent himself this way... (I don't know him, maybe he is maybe he isn't)~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tink1717 2 #21 May 19, 2006 I'd jump it just to have it in my logbook.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DeNReN 0 #22 May 20, 2006 I made 3 jumps from a AN-2 last fall...while it is certainly not a fast climber...it is still a cool ac .....mind you...it was my 1st time jumping from anything but a c-182....they have great lift for take off...I was quite supprised by how fast it got off the ground...and a skilled pilot used to it can do some pretty cool stuff(like having it fly fairly sideways)....I am looking forward to jumping the AN-2 again this summer Fleahop....did my contact info prove useful for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Snowwhite 0 #23 May 20, 2006 [ Thats exactly the conversation that we are having. Great thing about DZ.com is you get to talk to all kinds of skydivers from all over the world. Including those who organize things like WFFC Or at least, fleahop is seeming to represent himself this way... (I don't know him, maybe he is maybe he isn't) Fleahop is THE man when it comes to WFFC aircraft! You know how they say that confession is like whispering in the ear of God? Well, talking to Fleahop is like whispering in the ear of the FAA...skydiveTaylorville.org [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #11 May 19, 2006 Will I jump it if it comes? Yes. Will I make several jumps? Probably not. That is one slooow airplane. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #12 May 19, 2006 QuoteWe have an AN2 that we can Jump do we bring it or not? How many people want to jump this aircraft? Surely it doesnt matter how many people want to jump it. You'll only have time for 1 lift to 10k at the WFFC. :) UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #13 May 19, 2006 It would take forever. An-2 is really slow to climb. Effective celing is about 2500m. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 133 #14 May 19, 2006 Many years ago, a DZ in Hebron, IL had a AN-2. I remember it as having a roomy cabin but extremely slow getting to altitude. It was great, however, to have a chance to jump a rare aircraft, in this country anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #15 May 19, 2006 From what Ive heard, when empty, they can have a groundspeed of 0knts in a 30knt headwind. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #16 May 19, 2006 An interesting note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions (blind flying when you can’t see the ground) or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft (it won’t stall) and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 40 mph (64 km/h), and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 25 mph [40 km/h], the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground." Stall Speed: 35-40kts. but controlled descents are possible at 25kts. or 30mph. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #17 May 19, 2006 i have more than 90 jumps from an AN2 (in romania) it climbs very very slow- 45 minutes to 10K- with 11-13 skydivers the exit is at 140 km/h and the dor is on the left side why anyone would love to jump from this kind of AC if they have there a lot of faster/bigger/softer AC?? only to mark in a logbook that u jump from an AN2 too? ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleahop 0 #18 May 19, 2006 To me that is what the WFFC is all about. Jumping aircraft that you can't go jump very often if at all any where else. Seeing old friends and getting to do unique things. As for 10k on altitude if it is that slow and most people will only jump it once or twice then why not jump at 5 or 6k. But ya to put it in the log book that is the only reason I would want the jump.Don't just knock on deaths door...Kick it down and run like hell! He hates that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #19 May 19, 2006 I believe that I read in the forum on WFFC site that they are already planning to get an AN2 or that they are trying to get one. Its not yet on their list of confirmed aircraft, but if I'm understanding it right they are trying to get one...__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #20 May 19, 2006 QuoteI believe that I read in the forum on WFFC site that they are already planning to get an AN2 or that they are trying to get one. Its not yet on their list of confirmed aircraft, but if I'm understanding it right they are trying to get one... Thats exactly the conversation that we are having. Great thing about DZ.com is you get to talk to all kinds of skydivers from all over the world. Including those who organize things like WFFC Or at least, fleahop is seeming to represent himself this way... (I don't know him, maybe he is maybe he isn't)~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #21 May 19, 2006 I'd jump it just to have it in my logbook.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #22 May 20, 2006 I made 3 jumps from a AN-2 last fall...while it is certainly not a fast climber...it is still a cool ac .....mind you...it was my 1st time jumping from anything but a c-182....they have great lift for take off...I was quite supprised by how fast it got off the ground...and a skilled pilot used to it can do some pretty cool stuff(like having it fly fairly sideways)....I am looking forward to jumping the AN-2 again this summer Fleahop....did my contact info prove useful for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #23 May 20, 2006 [ Thats exactly the conversation that we are having. Great thing about DZ.com is you get to talk to all kinds of skydivers from all over the world. Including those who organize things like WFFC Or at least, fleahop is seeming to represent himself this way... (I don't know him, maybe he is maybe he isn't) Fleahop is THE man when it comes to WFFC aircraft! You know how they say that confession is like whispering in the ear of God? Well, talking to Fleahop is like whispering in the ear of the FAA...skydiveTaylorville.org [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #24 May 20, 2006 Basically AN-2 is King Air with the single Cessna engine. Had about 30 jumps from AN-2 10 years ago, we jumped from 800 meters, and it took about 15 minutes to reach it. For higher altitudes it is much slower.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 May 20, 2006 King Air???? Hardly! The rest of the post I agree with, though - not a bad plane for a static line FJC dropzone, I'd think... AN-2 ColtMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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