northcave 0 #1 June 24, 2007 By bandit jump, i mean any jump from a non DZ controlled plane no where near an official DZ. So anything from private planes, helicopters etc If you have a story and don't want to admit to it just say you "know someone who ..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidlayne 5 #2 June 24, 2007 "know someone who ..." hasn't done one this year.I don't care how many skydives you've got, until you stepped into complete darkness at 800' wearing 95 lbs of equipment and 42 lbs of parachute, son you are still a leg! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #3 June 24, 2007 Your definition does not necessarily make it a bandit jump. By your definition all of the jumps into my back yard were bandit jumps. Also all of the Destin beach jumps. I have been on a very high profile bandit jump somewhere in the southeast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #4 June 24, 2007 QuoteYour definition does not necessarily make it a bandit jump. By your definition all of the jumps into my back yard were bandit jumps. Also all of the Destin beach jumps. I have been on a very high profile bandit jump somewhere in the southeast.[/repl I believe what he means is any jump where a NOTAM was not filed, and ATC was not notified.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites itllclear 1 #5 June 24, 2007 As Fran York @ Fran's Star Ranch once said: "Honey, if you're coming here to do business, I don't care how you get here. Just get here!""Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #6 June 24, 2007 You don't have to file a NOTAM. You need only to have the land owners permission and talk to ATC. They cancelled the NOTAM for the 4th of July jumps into my yard one year because of some jackass at flight service that didn't know his job. Actually cancelled all of them in the southeast region because they didn't have waivers on file.We jumped all day long and never heard another word about it. Another I did was into a highschool football game. we had permission but that was it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #7 June 24, 2007 Best bandit jump I've done was at nite on the 4th o july during the fireworks show super shoot off, pretty cool watching the shells coming up at you.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #8 June 24, 2007 ... sounds like you did not get permission from the land-owner. Did the Taliban ever respond to your written request???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cashmanimal 0 #9 June 24, 2007 I haven' taken the time to research this yet... My grandfather just finished building his own little plane and I was wanting to do a jump out of it, but was not sure on the logistics (or lack thereof). I assumed it would be a "bandit jump" as it is 200 miles from the nearest DZ, and it would just be me bailing out over out lake house... Would it just be a matter of him being in contact with other traffic, as far as technical aspects go?....It's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #10 June 24, 2007 QuoteYour definition does not necessarily make it a bandit jump. By your definition all of the jumps into my back yard were bandit jumps. Also all of the Destin beach jumps. I have been on a very high profile bandit jump somewhere in the southeast. Not exactly a bandit jump since I paid for it, but I had the pilot at a DZ near the beach let me out at a specific place other than the main LZ everyone was jumping at. I had friends in a boat waiting to watch me land so I got to do it, it was about 3 miles away from the main LZ on the beach."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crum 0 #11 June 24, 2007 I've often wondered the same. I've read the SIM about authorized DZ areas til I fell asleep with boredom and just figured to hell with it. I live about 2 hours away from 3 different DZ's and I have a couple pals who fly local to where I live and you know when you get the itch to jump its pretty bad so..... I have a huge area right out my back door that would be a great LZ but I figured it wasn't worth the hastle and figured it was just a cool daydream landing in my back 40.... or is it? ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #12 June 25, 2007 QuoteBy bandit jump, i mean any jump from a non DZ controlled plane no where near an official DZ. So anything from private planes, helicopters etc You're going to have problems with this survey using that definition. DZ-controlled airplanes are also privately owned. And DZ landing areas are often privately owned. So jumping from other privately owned aircraft, onto other privately owned property, really isn't much different. You just need to have permission of the property owner and follow the FARs. Just like at the DZ. A better definition of a "bandit" jump might be one which is done onto property without the landowner's permission, or without following the FARs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyboy6554 3 #13 June 26, 2007 Did two of them in Okinawa in 1988, actually on one of the out lying islands off Okinawa. One out of a cessna 172 and the other out of a cessna 152. Landed on a Japanese muni airport and don't think anyone even saw me. A GREAT day and beautiful jumps right in the middle of the south China sea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #14 June 26, 2007 Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #15 June 26, 2007 Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #16 June 26, 2007 I've jumped from a buddy's powered parachute onto a random private airport. The airport manager came out and got mad at him. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #17 June 26, 2007 I believe D.B. Cooper made a bandit jump.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #18 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? Naw, we had a rat fink at the airport that called FSDO. Still don't know who it was.And the radar thing? Don't know if you were serious or not, but ATC radar is not as magical as some may think. Especially with my enroute radar, you'd be hard pressed to spot a lone jumper leaving an ultralight. It would look a lot like random ground clutter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #19 June 26, 2007 No, of course not. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #20 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? Naw, we had a rat fink at the airport that called FSDO. Still don't know who it was.And the radar thing? Don't know if you were serious or not, but ATC radar is not as magical as some may think. Especially with my enroute radar, you'd be hard pressed to spot a lone jumper leaving an ultralight. It would look a lot like random ground clutter. Ah... damn rats... I knew it sounded far-fetched, but larger formations can be seen on radar, like big ways. Imagine ATC in Florida seeing a 747 sized blip moving 20-25 mph and wondering what the fuck is that... Turned out to be the world record 85 way canopy formation. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rick 67 #21 June 26, 2007 Well this 1 time (ok maybe 2 or 3) we had a really bad spot and landed in someones back yard they just happened to be having a party You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites baseknut 0 #22 June 26, 2007 i have a question.......what does ATC and FAR stand for and where can they be located.i was under the impression if the jump was legit and legal and off of a designated DZ, then you had to have a DEMO rating? if i am wrong please elaborate.....because, if all you have to do is notify some people, cant anyone, like myself with an A license , jump into a party or family event? -jake Step into my (sub)terminal Playground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites avenfoto 0 #23 June 26, 2007 loads of them,all the time. why pay for a slot with dollars, when all you need are some beers? or good friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites northcave 0 #24 June 26, 2007 is it just me or are you yanks A LOT more chilled out. I think most skydivers / Dz's would have a heart attack if you told em you'd jumped into a back yard party over here. Yank flippin hippies you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rave4funn 0 #25 June 26, 2007 I have a buddy that owns a few planes. He has agreed that if I can do it "legally" (as in he cant get in trouble with the FAA or anyone) he will allow me to jump from his plane. How do I go about doing that?--------------------------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/rave4funn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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itllclear 1 #5 June 24, 2007 As Fran York @ Fran's Star Ranch once said: "Honey, if you're coming here to do business, I don't care how you get here. Just get here!""Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #6 June 24, 2007 You don't have to file a NOTAM. You need only to have the land owners permission and talk to ATC. They cancelled the NOTAM for the 4th of July jumps into my yard one year because of some jackass at flight service that didn't know his job. Actually cancelled all of them in the southeast region because they didn't have waivers on file.We jumped all day long and never heard another word about it. Another I did was into a highschool football game. we had permission but that was it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #7 June 24, 2007 Best bandit jump I've done was at nite on the 4th o july during the fireworks show super shoot off, pretty cool watching the shells coming up at you.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 June 24, 2007 ... sounds like you did not get permission from the land-owner. Did the Taliban ever respond to your written request???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cashmanimal 0 #9 June 24, 2007 I haven' taken the time to research this yet... My grandfather just finished building his own little plane and I was wanting to do a jump out of it, but was not sure on the logistics (or lack thereof). I assumed it would be a "bandit jump" as it is 200 miles from the nearest DZ, and it would just be me bailing out over out lake house... Would it just be a matter of him being in contact with other traffic, as far as technical aspects go?....It's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 June 24, 2007 QuoteYour definition does not necessarily make it a bandit jump. By your definition all of the jumps into my back yard were bandit jumps. Also all of the Destin beach jumps. I have been on a very high profile bandit jump somewhere in the southeast. Not exactly a bandit jump since I paid for it, but I had the pilot at a DZ near the beach let me out at a specific place other than the main LZ everyone was jumping at. I had friends in a boat waiting to watch me land so I got to do it, it was about 3 miles away from the main LZ on the beach."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crum 0 #11 June 24, 2007 I've often wondered the same. I've read the SIM about authorized DZ areas til I fell asleep with boredom and just figured to hell with it. I live about 2 hours away from 3 different DZ's and I have a couple pals who fly local to where I live and you know when you get the itch to jump its pretty bad so..... I have a huge area right out my back door that would be a great LZ but I figured it wasn't worth the hastle and figured it was just a cool daydream landing in my back 40.... or is it? ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 June 25, 2007 QuoteBy bandit jump, i mean any jump from a non DZ controlled plane no where near an official DZ. So anything from private planes, helicopters etc You're going to have problems with this survey using that definition. DZ-controlled airplanes are also privately owned. And DZ landing areas are often privately owned. So jumping from other privately owned aircraft, onto other privately owned property, really isn't much different. You just need to have permission of the property owner and follow the FARs. Just like at the DZ. A better definition of a "bandit" jump might be one which is done onto property without the landowner's permission, or without following the FARs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy6554 3 #13 June 26, 2007 Did two of them in Okinawa in 1988, actually on one of the out lying islands off Okinawa. One out of a cessna 172 and the other out of a cessna 152. Landed on a Japanese muni airport and don't think anyone even saw me. A GREAT day and beautiful jumps right in the middle of the south China sea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #14 June 26, 2007 Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 June 26, 2007 Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #16 June 26, 2007 I've jumped from a buddy's powered parachute onto a random private airport. The airport manager came out and got mad at him. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 June 26, 2007 I believe D.B. Cooper made a bandit jump.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #18 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? Naw, we had a rat fink at the airport that called FSDO. Still don't know who it was.And the radar thing? Don't know if you were serious or not, but ATC radar is not as magical as some may think. Especially with my enroute radar, you'd be hard pressed to spot a lone jumper leaving an ultralight. It would look a lot like random ground clutter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 June 26, 2007 No, of course not. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Jumped from a friend's 2 place ultralight. FAA tracked him down and ragged on him though. It was fun. How did they know? Could they actually see you on radar? Naw, we had a rat fink at the airport that called FSDO. Still don't know who it was.And the radar thing? Don't know if you were serious or not, but ATC radar is not as magical as some may think. Especially with my enroute radar, you'd be hard pressed to spot a lone jumper leaving an ultralight. It would look a lot like random ground clutter. Ah... damn rats... I knew it sounded far-fetched, but larger formations can be seen on radar, like big ways. Imagine ATC in Florida seeing a 747 sized blip moving 20-25 mph and wondering what the fuck is that... Turned out to be the world record 85 way canopy formation. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #21 June 26, 2007 Well this 1 time (ok maybe 2 or 3) we had a really bad spot and landed in someones back yard they just happened to be having a party You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baseknut 0 #22 June 26, 2007 i have a question.......what does ATC and FAR stand for and where can they be located.i was under the impression if the jump was legit and legal and off of a designated DZ, then you had to have a DEMO rating? if i am wrong please elaborate.....because, if all you have to do is notify some people, cant anyone, like myself with an A license , jump into a party or family event? -jake Step into my (sub)terminal Playground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #23 June 26, 2007 loads of them,all the time. why pay for a slot with dollars, when all you need are some beers? or good friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northcave 0 #24 June 26, 2007 is it just me or are you yanks A LOT more chilled out. I think most skydivers / Dz's would have a heart attack if you told em you'd jumped into a back yard party over here. Yank flippin hippies you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rave4funn 0 #25 June 26, 2007 I have a buddy that owns a few planes. He has agreed that if I can do it "legally" (as in he cant get in trouble with the FAA or anyone) he will allow me to jump from his plane. How do I go about doing that?--------------------------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/rave4funn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
